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Reply #90 - Jul 11th, 2014 at 8:31pm
 
Lionel Edriess wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 7:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 6:56pm:
... If it is criminal for one side to engage in Terrorism, then it must, ipso facto be criminal for all sides to engage in it, Lionel.


As I said, I quite agree.

It's the methodology I disagree with.


Still attempting to be an apologist for the Israelis?

The only difference I see between an Islamic bomb and an Israeli bomb is the guidance system, Lionel.   Innocent people still end up dead.

Here is a Palestinian human shield BTW:

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Looks to me like they care about their children too, Lionel...  Roll Eyes
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Reply #91 - Jul 11th, 2014 at 9:10pm
 
Israel is a sovereign country, a member of the UN, recognised by ALL democracies.

It is fully entitled to defend its citizens. And it does defend its citizens, Jewish, Muslim, Christian.


Israel is a real country, with real people. There is no undoing that. Recognise it, live with it, work with it.



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Reply #92 - Jul 12th, 2014 at 12:12am
 
Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 9:10pm:
Israel is a sovereign country, a member of the UN, recognised by ALL democracies.

It is fully entitled to defend its citizens. And it does defend its citizens, Jewish, Muslim, Christian.


Israel is a real country, with real people. There is no undoing that. Recognise it, live with it, work with it.


Couldn't agree more, Soren.  The problem is that the Palestinians have genuine aspirations to creating their own nation and those cannot be ignored either.  Somehow, the two must be reconciled.  It is a shame though, that the Israelis are so unwilling to compromise and attempt to live in peace with their neighbours.  The expansion of the state of Israel is a fact which cannot be ignored.  It has added considerable territory and is attempting through colonisation of the West Bank to ethnically cleanse the region of its inhabitants.  This sort of thing is, as several US Presidents have mentioned, "not acceptable" where it occurs elsewhere (Balkans, Kuwait, etc.) yet it seems the US Government largely condones it where the Israelis are concerned.  Roll Eyes

I have long maintained that the Palestinians need to recognise the validity of UN Resolution 181 if they wish the rest of the world to recognise the validity of all the other UN Resolutions which are critical of Israel in it's treatment of the Palestinians.
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Reply #93 - Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2014 at 12:12am:
Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 9:10pm:
Israel is a sovereign country, a member of the UN, recognised by ALL democracies.

It is fully entitled to defend its citizens. And it does defend its citizens, Jewish, Muslim, Christian.


Israel is a real country, with real people. There is no undoing that. Recognise it, live with it, work with it.


Couldn't agree more, Soren.  The problem is that the Palestinians have genuine aspirations to creating their own nation and those cannot be ignored either.  Somehow, the two must be reconciled.  It is a shame though, that the Israelis are so unwilling to compromise and attempt to live in peace with their neighbours.  The expansion of the state of Israel is a fact which cannot be ignored.  It has added considerable territory and is attempting through colonisation of the West Bank to ethnically cleanse the region of its inhabitants.  This sort of thing is, as several US Presidents have mentioned, "not acceptable" where it occurs elsewhere (Balkans, Kuwait, etc.) yet it seems the US Government largely condones it where the Israelis are concerned.  Roll Eyes

I have long maintained that the Palestinians need to recognise the validity of UN Resolution 181 if they wish the rest of the world to recognise the validity of all the other UN Resolutions which are critical of Israel in it's treatment of the Palestinians.

Thanks, Brain, but you are talking utter nonsense with deadly good intentions.

Israel compromised on the day it was created.
It compromised at every turn ever since.

The Palestinians,  and the wider Arab region that has sacrificed the Palestinians, have never compromised.


Israel's right to exist has never been recognised by the Arabs. It is a quarter of the size of Tasmania. The Arabs can't bring themselves to recognising it because that is against Koranic teachings. The Jews will not give it up because it is the Jewish homeland and after the holocaust, it is 'never again' for the Jews.

The Arabs are stupid to an astonishing degree. Having such a dynamic county in the middle of the Arab world would be their ticket out of poverty and backwardness. But they fight it instead.


If you look at Europe, there have been many more people displaced after centuries of wars. They get on with their lives. Not the Arabs.

I blame Islam. You blame Israel.i




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Reply #94 - Jul 13th, 2014 at 9:40pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2014 at 12:12am:
Soren wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 9:10pm:
Israel is a sovereign country, a member of the UN, recognised by ALL democracies.

It is fully entitled to defend its citizens. And it does defend its citizens, Jewish, Muslim, Christian.


Israel is a real country, with real people. There is no undoing that. Recognise it, live with it, work with it.


Couldn't agree more, Soren.  The problem is that the Palestinians have genuine aspirations to creating their own nation and those cannot be ignored either.  Somehow, the two must be reconciled.  It is a shame though, that the Israelis are so unwilling to compromise and attempt to live in peace with their neighbours.  The expansion of the state of Israel is a fact which cannot be ignored.  It has added considerable territory and is attempting through colonisation of the West Bank to ethnically cleanse the region of its inhabitants.  This sort of thing is, as several US Presidents have mentioned, "not acceptable" where it occurs elsewhere (Balkans, Kuwait, etc.) yet it seems the US Government largely condones it where the Israelis are concerned.  Roll Eyes

I have long maintained that the Palestinians need to recognise the validity of UN Resolution 181 if they wish the rest of the world to recognise the validity of all the other UN Resolutions which are critical of Israel in it's treatment of the Palestinians.

Thanks, Brain, but you are talking utter nonsense with deadly good intentions.

Israel compromised on the day it was created.


Really?  How?

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It compromised at every turn ever since.


This is why it is still building colonies in the West Bank?  This is why it is condoning the actions of those colonists when they attempt to ethnically cleanse that region?  This is why it has steadily expanded it's territory way beyond the borders of 1948 which UN General Assembly Resolution 181 established?   Soren, you, like the Zionists in Israel have an odd definition of the word "compromise".   Eretz Israel is their dream.  Unfortunately it can only occur at the expense of the Palestinians.   Roll Eyes

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The Palestinians,  and the wider Arab region that has sacrificed the Palestinians, have never compromised.


This is why Egypt and Jordan have signed peace treaties and maintain the right of Israel to exist as a nation?   This is why the PA has abandoned its non-acceptance of the right of Israel to exist?  This is why the PLO has basically stopped attacking Israel?  Funny sort of non-compromise, Soren.  Again, I'd suggest you need to reacquaint yourself with what the word means...   Roll Eyes

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Israel's right to exist has never been recognised by the Arabs.


Really?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Time you caught up with modern history, Soren.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #95 - Jul 13th, 2014 at 9:47pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 8:31pm:
Lionel Edriess wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 7:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 6:56pm:
... If it is criminal for one side to engage in Terrorism, then it must, ipso facto be criminal for all sides to engage in it, Lionel.


As I said, I quite agree.

It's the methodology I disagree with.


Still attempting to be an apologist for the Israelis?

The only difference I see between an Islamic bomb and an Israeli bomb is the guidance system, Lionel.   Innocent people still end up dead.

Here is a Palestinian human shield BTW:

http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/palestinian_woman_israeli_...

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2000/10/03/rami.jpg

Looks to me like they care about their children too, Lionel...  Roll Eyes


And here you are being an Islamic apologist pretending a human shield for someone firing a rocket is some family member protecting their kids  Grin Grin Grin Grin

The difference in guidance systems for the low in intellect is the Israeli one stops if the other one does.

Get a grip clown.  Cheesy
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Reply #96 - Jul 14th, 2014 at 8:28am
 
This jew uses his government payed position to support the israeli terrorists.


Jewish leader Vic Alhadeff slammed over Hamas 'war crimes' remark


Premier Mike Baird has publicly reprimanded the chair of the NSW Community Relations Commission, Vic Alhadeff, over “inappropriate” remarks that accuse Palestine of war crimes and appear to gloss over Israeli violence.

But critics say the rebuke to Mr Alhadeff, who is also chief executive of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies, does not go far enough and say he should be removed from the government-appointed position.

The dispute has laid bare the deep fissures between Sydney’s Arabic and Jewish communities, and raises questions over Mr Alhadeff’s dual roles, which require him to both support the Jewish cause and promote community unity.

But Mr Alhadeff says he has “worked tirelessly with leaders across the Muslim and Arab communities” and “I stand on my track record of sowing harmony ... in NSW”.
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In an email to members of the Jewish community this week, Mr Alhadeff condemned acts by Palestinian militant Islamist group Hamas during conflict ignited by the murders of three Israeli students last month.

The incidents triggered a suspected reprisal killing of a Palestinian teenager, followed by riots in East Jerusalem and the exchange of rockets between Israel and Gaza.

Mr Alhadeff's email, titled “Israel Under Fire”, criticised the “Hamas terror organisation” for launching rockets on Israeli towns, saying families had been forced into shelters and “children kept from summer camp”.

Israel would “do whatever is needed to defend its citizens. All options are on the table”, he said.

He accused Hamas of “war crimes” for “indiscriminately” attacking civilians, claiming in contrast, Israel uses “care to avoid civilian casualties” and “pinpoint technologies to hit the targeted infrastructure”.

The statement triggered outrage amongst Arab leaders in NSW, including Joseph Wakim, former Victorian Multicultural Affairs Commissioner and founder of the Australian Arabic Council, who described the views as “biased and provocative”.

He said Mr Alhadeff ignored the attack on the Palestinian teenager and failed to mention “air and sea strikes that have already killed 35 Palestinian civilians”.

“He has very clearly taken one side and said ‘here are the goodies and here are the baddies’,” Mr Wakim said.

“Do such statements build bridges and community relations, or wedge a wall between us and them?”

Mr Wakim said Mr Alhadeff’s appointment to the Community Relations Commission in December last year “should never have happened” because it created a serious conflict of interest. He called on Mr Alhadeff to relinquish one role.

A spokesman for Premier Mike Baird said Mr Alhadeff “has done an excellent job” as CRC chair but his statement "may be considered inconsistent” with promoting community harmony.

“[Mr Alhadeff] has acknowledged the need to focus on issues in NSW and avoid using inappropriate language regarding overseas conflicts,” the spokesman said.

He added: “Few people have done more to promote inter-faith engagement and understanding between the Jewish and Muslim communities in NSW than Mr Alhadeff".

Mr Alhadeff said he frequently spoke out to condemn racism against the Muslim community and “worked tirelessly with leaders across the Muslim and Arab communities”.

“Despite occasionally differing views on issues, surely we all share a determination to live peacefully and harmoniously together in a tolerant and inclusive NSW,” he said.

“The role of the CRC Chair is to fight racism, promote multiculturalism and ensure community harmony. This is what I have done passionately and will continue to do.”

Lebanese Muslim Association president Samier Dandan said Mr Alhadeff had “helped the Muslim community” in his role as chairman, such as contributing to establishing an Australian Muslim community foster care program.

"My engagement with Vic … has been a very positive engagement," Mr Dandan said.

But he cautioned that while Mr Alhadeff was entitled to a political opinion "he needs to be conscious, in his role as CRC chair, of only saying things that are very positive".

In a statement, co-convenors of the NSW Parliamentary Friends of Palestine, Labor

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Reply #97 - Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:11am
 
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 9:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 8:31pm:
Lionel Edriess wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 7:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 6:56pm:
... If it is criminal for one side to engage in Terrorism, then it must, ipso facto be criminal for all sides to engage in it, Lionel.


As I said, I quite agree.

It's the methodology I disagree with.


Still attempting to be an apologist for the Israelis?

The only difference I see between an Islamic bomb and an Israeli bomb is the guidance system, Lionel.   Innocent people still end up dead.

Here is a Palestinian human shield BTW:

http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/palestinian_woman_israeli_...

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2000/10/03/rami.jpg

Looks to me like they care about their children too, Lionel...  Roll Eyes


And here you are being an Islamic apologist pretending a human shield for someone firing a rocket is some family member protecting their kids  Grin Grin Grin Grin


I'm sorry, I can't see any rockets in those two pictures, could you please point them out?   I see a lady protecting two children against the possibility of an Israeli soldier shooting them and a man desperately trying to protect his son who was being shot at and was eventually shot by a big brave Israeli soldier.  So, where are the rockets? 

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The difference in guidance systems for the low in intellect is the Israeli one stops if the other one does.


Yet it still builds new settlements in the Occupied Territories, which in turn provokes the rocket firing.  Amazing how you don't see cause and effect.    Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy

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Get a grip clown.  Cheesy


Looks like you have one already on your dick.  I'd recommend that you stop choking yourself though.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

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Reply #98 - Jul 14th, 2014 at 12:05pm
 
allah must be worn out making hooks to hang women up by their breasts over his hellfires, the majority of people in allah's hell are women, who allah causes to go astray, then he tends the hellfires he hangs them over (according to hadi'th and quran)

Then he has to round up all those rooms full of big breasted houris, to lay back on their couches and wait for the best of all muslims (male muslims who slay and are slain) to enter paradise and cavort with said houris and little boys with eyes like pearls.

Oh well allah can be thankful he's got muslims and their apologists sucking up to him, that should make him feel better.
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Reply #99 - Jul 14th, 2014 at 12:17pm
 
moses wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 12:05pm:
allah must be worn out making hooks to hang women up by their breasts over his hellfires, the majority of people in allah's hell are women, who allah causes to go astray, then he tends the hellfires he hangs them over (according to hadi'th and quran)

Then he has to round up all those rooms full of big breasted houris, to lay back on their couches and wait for the best of all muslims (male muslims who slay and are slain) to enter paradise and cavort with said houris and little boys with eyes like pearls.

Oh well allah can be thankful he's got muslims and their apologists sucking up to him, that should make him feel better.


What has this to do with Jewish Terrorism?  Stop being an apologist for this appalling behavior!!!!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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Reply #100 - Jul 14th, 2014 at 12:42pm
 
I'm sympathizing with allah's work load as his devotees get knocked off by those terrible jooos, who kill muslims, allah's chosen people.

You and all other muslim lackeys must get the message out there, muslims are the very epitome of love and peace, jooos are terrorists.
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Reply #101 - Jul 14th, 2014 at 12:44pm
 
moses wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 12:42pm:
I'm sympathizing with allah's work load as his devotees get knocked off by those terrible jooos, who kill muslims, allah's chosen people.

You and all other muslim lackeys must get the message out there, muslims are the very epitome of love and peace, jooos are terrorists.



Some Muslims, some Jews support Terrorism.  Always with the absolutes, Moses.  Must be a very, very, very, black and white world you live in.  Stopped beating your wife lately?    Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #102 - Jul 14th, 2014 at 2:03pm
 
moses wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 12:42pm:
I'm sympathizing with allah's work load as his devotees get knocked off by those terrible jooos, who kill muslims, allah's chosen people.

You and all other muslim lackeys must get the message out there, muslims are the very epitome of love and peace, jooos are terrorists.


As a christian moses, what do you think of these?

A JEW MUST ALWAYS TRY TO DECEIVE CHRISTIANS
In Zohar (I, 160a) it says:
"Rabbi Jehuda said to him [Rabbi Chezkia]: 'He is to be praised who is able to free himself from the enemies of Israel, and the just are much to be praised who get free from them and fight against them. 'Rabbi Chezkia asked, 'How must we fight against them?' Rabbi Jehuda said, 'By wise counsel thou shalt war against them' (Proverbs, ch. 24, 6). By what  kind of war? The kind of war that every son of man must fight against his enemies, which Jacob used against Esau - by deceit and trickery whenever possible. They must be fought against without ceasing, until proper order be restored. Thus it is with satisfaction that I say we should free ourselves from them and rule over them.

A SICK CHRISTIAN MUST NOT BE AID
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In Iore Dea (158, 1) it says:
"The Akum are not to be cured, even for money, unless it would incur their enmity."

A JEW MUST NEVER ACT IN ANY WAY LIKE A CHRISTIAN

In Iore Dea (178, 1) it says:
"It is not permitted to imitate the customs of the Akum, nor to act like them. Nor is it permitted to wear clothes like the Akum, not to comb the hair as they do...neither must Jews build houses that look like temples of the Akum."
Since, however, it is not possible to observe all these rules in every place, the Hagah says that they can be overlooked to a certain extent when, for instance, it is to the advantage of the Jew to do so; for example, if a Jew would profit by a trade which requires a certain kind of dress

A JEW MUST NOT RETURN THE GREETINGS OF A CHRISTIAN

In Iore Dea (148, 10) it says:
"A Jew must not return the greeting of a Christian by bowing before him. It is good, therefore, to salute him first and so avoid having to answer him back if the Akum salutes him first."
Rabbi Kohana says that when a Jew salutes a Christian he should say "Peace to my Lord," but intend this for his own Rabbi. For the Tosephtoth says: "For his heart was turned towards his own Rabbi."

IT IS FORBIDDEN TO TEACH A TRADE TO CHRISTIANS

In Iore Dea (154, 2) it says:
"It is not permitted to teach any trade to the Akum."


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Reply #103 - Jul 14th, 2014 at 3:15pm
 
The joos had absolutely no right to defend themselves against muslims in the 1948 and 1968 wars. They had absolutely no right to hold territory they captured from the invading muslim enemy in those wars.

The joos have absolutely no right to take action against islamic terrorism.

The joos absolutely must roll over and let allah's chosen people  exterminate them.

Now it's time you muslims and your spinless lackeys the apologists, revealed to the world how todays' muslim is a shining example of peace, love and tolerance. (A lot of people probably won't believe you) but tell them anyway, after all, we all know the joos are the terrorists.
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Reply #104 - Jul 15th, 2014 at 2:27pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 8:31pm:


How can he be a human shield when that was a staged incident?
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Durrah_incident

Lots a bullshit propaganda from muslims when it comes to the Yahud,they were caught telling lies about so called war crimes here as well-
www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance


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