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Grand Duke Imam Mahdi
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Queer Muslims challenge prejudice at Mahdi Gras
Jun 21st, 2014 at 9:49pm
 
Pro-queer Muslims challenge prejudice


This year’s Sydney Mardi Gras gave many people the opportunity to say something about the issues that concern lesbian, gay, bisexual, intersex and transgendered (LGTBI) people. Most floats in the parade voiced their support for same-sex marriage.

Muslims Against Homophobia, a recently-formed support group for queer Muslims in Sydney, made a groundbreaking appearance in the parade. It said something equally important and urgent: “Queer Muslims need acceptance!”

There is much stigma attached to homosexuality in Muslim societies. In some Muslim nations homosexuality is still criminalised, and is even punishable by death in some, such as Saudi Arabia and Iran.

In the past, most Muslim societies were sexually permissive, and were even viewed as lascivious by colonial Western nations.

Some Muslim countries, especially those in the Middle East, had a widespread homosexual culture that tolerated sexual relationships between men.

But the moralistic colonial authorities, mostly strict Christians, disapproved of sex between men and banned it. More recently, with the rise of harsher forms of Islam in conservative Muslim circles, homosexuality is now viewed mostly as a sign of Western decadence that poisons Muslims.

Most Muslim societies do not recognise homosexuality as a different identity, but what they generally stigmatise and criminalise is sexual intercourse between men.

There are many social and political obstacles, which make it hard and impractical to advocate queer rights in these conservative societies, where different identities and subcultures can’t usually freely flourish.

Although sex is a natural part of life according to Islam (unlike Christianity, which traditionally promoted celibacy) it is generally strictly regulated to take place only between married heterosexual couples.

The most important obstacles of all are the repressive regimes in most Muslim countries, which do not provide mainstream people with rights and freedoms, let alone minorities like queer people.

But despite this gloomy picture, homosexuals in these countries, which don’t usually allow their people to express their diverse identities honestly and freely, generally live in secrecy and network quietly - unlike out-and-proud Western homosexuals.

They avoid getting into trouble by leading a double life, some managing a heterosexual marriage and a same-sex relationship at the same time.

In Turkey, a secular and more liberal Muslim country, Istanbul’s homosexual community has a pride week and a gay and lesbian parade in late June every year as part of a niche counter culture.

Homosexual rights in Muslim countries will be probably achieved as part of a general struggle for civil rights in these nations — just like the civil rights movement in the US in 1960s, which also triggered the homosexual rights movement.

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I'd post a link but I cannot at this stage.

I would dare say there is going to be outrage from the extremists over this in coming years.
I personally think they are dreaming.
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Reply #1 - Jun 21st, 2014 at 10:16pm
 
Whilst I raise no arms against gay men (other than to keep my backside covered) a muslim homosexual is an oxymoron, cause they would be dead.
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Reply #2 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:26am
 
Adamant wrote on Jun 21st, 2014 at 10:16pm:
Whilst I raise no arms against gay men (other than to keep my backside covered) a muslim homosexual is an oxymoron, cause they would be dead.

Absolute rubbish.
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Reply #3 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:46am
 
Now would be an appropriate time to list the multitude of gay mosques throughout the world I guess .
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Reply #4 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:59am
 
ian wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:26am:
Adamant wrote on Jun 21st, 2014 at 10:16pm:
Whilst I raise no arms against gay men (other than to keep my backside covered) a muslim homosexual is an oxymoron, cause they would be dead.

Absolute rubbish.


Well said gay boy.

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Do you get your kicks on route 66 Ian. like to see humans getting killed for being nothing more than human.

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Reply #5 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 1:00am
 
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:46am:
Now would be an appropriate time to list the multitude of gay mosques throughout the world I guess .


Good look with that.
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Reply #6 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:09am
 
Aussie muslims say they need acceptance, but there happily joining the gay parade.PFFT.

So they are accepted in the gay parade, no need to push the values onto other muslims who dont want to be queer.
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Reply #7 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:10pm
 
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:46am:
Now would be an appropriate time to list the multitude of gay mosques throughout the world I guess .


Be pretty comparable with the number of Gay Christian churches, I expect.   Roll Eyes

Neither religion nor their followers have a very good track record on Homosexuality and the treatment of gay people.
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Reply #8 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:37pm
 
wally1 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:09am:
Aussie muslims say they need acceptance, but there happily joining the gay parade.PFFT.

So they are accepted in the gay parade, no need to push the values onto other muslims who dont want to be queer.


How can they tell whether those Muslims want to be queer without trying to push it onto them?
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Re: Queer Muslims challenge prejudice at Mahdi Gras
Reply #9 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:37pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:10pm:
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:46am:
Now would be an appropriate time to list the multitude of gay mosques throughout the world I guess .


Be pretty comparable with the number of Gay Christian churches, I expect.   Roll Eyes

Neither religion nor their followers have a very good track record on Homosexuality and the treatment of gay people.


Well you expect wrong. Try google.

The new catholic pope allows homo priests and the Anglican and Uniting churches have been bending over backwards for years.

Never heard of a mosque anywhere batting for the other team.

Then again whats under a burqa stays under a burqa. Hmmm
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Reply #10 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:40pm
 
Mattywisk wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:10pm:
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:46am:
Now would be an appropriate time to list the multitude of gay mosques throughout the world I guess .


Be pretty comparable with the number of Gay Christian churches, I expect.   Roll Eyes

Neither religion nor their followers have a very good track record on Homosexuality and the treatment of gay people.


Well you expect wrong. Try google.

The new catholic pope allows homo priests and the Anglican and Uniting churches have been bending over backwards for years.

Never heard of a mosque anywhere batting for the other team.




Kids maybe bending over?
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Reply #11 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:37pm:
wally1 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:09am:
Aussie muslims say they need acceptance, but there happily joining the gay parade.PFFT.

So they are accepted in the gay parade, no need to push the values onto other muslims who dont want to be queer.


How can they tell whether those Muslims want to be queer without trying to push it onto them?


Didnt you read the first two paragraphs of the original post, or are you trolling?
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Reply #12 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:47pm
 
wally1 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:40pm:
Mattywisk wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:10pm:
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 12:46am:
Now would be an appropriate time to list the multitude of gay mosques throughout the world I guess .


Be pretty comparable with the number of Gay Christian churches, I expect.   Roll Eyes

Neither religion nor their followers have a very good track record on Homosexuality and the treatment of gay people.


Well you expect wrong. Try google.

The new catholic pope allows homo priests and the Anglican and Uniting churches have been bending over backwards for years.

Never heard of a mosque anywhere batting for the other team.




Kids maybe bending over?


Kid muslims  Shocked
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Re: Queer Muslims challenge prejudice at Mahdi Gras
Reply #13 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:59pm
 
Mattywisk wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 7:47pm:
Kid muslims


(Gay) kid (killed) muslims!
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Reply #14 - Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:02pm
 
wally1 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 8:09am:
no need to push the values onto other muslims who dont want to be queer.


They are gay you are QUEER.
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