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Was nostrodamus for real ?
Jun 24th, 2014 at 5:42pm
 
Michel de Nostredame (depending on the source, 14 or 21 December 1503[1] – 2 July 1566), usually Latinised as Nostradamus, was a French apothecary and reputed seer who published collections of prophecies that have since become famous worldwide. He is best known for his book Les Propheties, the first edition of which appeared in 1555. Since the publication of this book, which has rarely been out of print since his death, Nostradamus has attracted a following that, along with much of the popular press, credits him with predicting many major world events.[2][3] Most academic sources maintain that the associations made between world events and Nostradamus's quatrains are largely the result of misinterpretations or mistranslations (sometimes deliberate) or else are so tenuous as to render them useless as evidence of any genuine predictive power.[4] Nevertheless, occasional commentators have successfully used a process of free interpretation and determined "twisting" of his words to predict an apparently imminent event. For example, in 1867 (three years before it happened), Le Pelletier did so to anticipate either the triumph or the defeat of Napoleon III in a war that, in the event, begged to be identified as the Franco-Prussian War, while admitting that he could not specify either which or when.[
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Reply #1 - Jun 24th, 2014 at 5:49pm
 
Quite frankly I find it hard to believe that this bloke who lived nearly 500 years ago had some paranormal ability to see into the future and make predictions that were supposely correct, but i know that lots of people who do believe in him and some have said he has predicted most of the historical events after his death, such as the great fire of london in 1666, the rise of adolf hitler and the cold war.

And Iv read his prophesies and I find them so simply vague in its wording that you take any one of his quantrains and interpret it into any historical event, and you can say yeah thats it.
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Reply #2 - Jun 24th, 2014 at 6:02pm
 



I always loved this series when i was kid, especially the narration by leonard nimoy, gave it an extra omph.
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Reply #3 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 1:28am
 
stryder wrote on Jun 24th, 2014 at 5:49pm:
And Iv read his prophesies and I find them so simply vague in its wording that you take any one of his quantrains and interpret it into any historical event, and you can say yeah thats it.


Exactly. He wasn't stupid that's for sure.
The practice of pretending to be a true seer has been around for centuries.
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Air is provided by God, not the muslim fictitious one, enjoy it while you can.
 
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Reply #4 - Jun 29th, 2014 at 10:11am
 
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 1:28am:
stryder wrote on Jun 24th, 2014 at 5:49pm:
And Iv read his prophesies and I find them so simply vague in its wording that you take any one of his quantrains and interpret it into any historical event, and you can say yeah thats it.


Exactly. He wasn't stupid that's for sure.
The practice of pretending to be a true seer has been around for centuries.



May have a point there, but somehow or other nostrodamus has been elevated to a position where he has made it all the way into pop culture over the centuries, not bad for a pretender.
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Reply #5 - Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:33pm
 
Hmmm
...so this is Fringe.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #6 - Sep 19th, 2014 at 6:02pm
 
stryder wrote on Jun 24th, 2014 at 5:49pm:
Quite frankly I find it hard to believe that this bloke who lived nearly 500 years ago had some paranormal ability to see into the future and make predictions that were supposely correct, but i know that lots of people who do believe in him and some have said he has predicted most of the historical events after his death, such as the great fire of london in 1666, the rise of adolf hitler and the cold war.

And Iv read his prophesies and I find them so simply vague in its wording that you take any one of his quantrains and interpret it into any historical event, and you can say yeah thats it.


Nostradamus is a bit like the Horoscopes you read up in newspapers or see on TV, or on the net if you are that way inclined. Basically they give vague descriptions and you can match it up to what happens in your life.
It's about the interpretation and wanting to believe.
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Nothing would be what it is,
Because everything would be what it isn't.
And contrary-wise - what it is, it wouldn't be.
And what it wouldn't be, it would.
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Reply #7 - Sep 19th, 2014 at 6:03pm
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 18th, 2014 at 11:33pm:
Hmmm
...so this is Fringe.


Cheesy

Fringe is basically anything that you talk about, that is associated with insanity.
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Nothing would be what it is,
Because everything would be what it isn't.
And contrary-wise - what it is, it wouldn't be.
And what it wouldn't be, it would.
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Reply #8 - Sep 19th, 2014 at 9:41pm
 
Ever notice that Nostrodamus never much predicted anything for the Southern Hemisphere?
There was one passage, as if written with reluctance.

"And he shall rise up from the Great South,
to usher in the Golden Age - with a twist of his tongue."

Other than that - I think he was real.
Most 'traditionalism' is very predictable.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #9 - Sep 22nd, 2014 at 8:38am
 
Basically all of Nostradamus' famous quatrains were cases of postdiction rather than prediction.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #10 - Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:38am
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 19th, 2014 at 9:41pm:
Ever notice that Nostrodamus never much predicted anything for the Southern Hemisphere?
There was one passage, as if written with reluctance.

"And he shall rise up from the Great South,
to usher in the Golden Age - with a twist of his tongue."


Other than that - I think he was real.
Most 'traditionalism' is very predictable.



The great south could mean southern europe, or africa which is south of the mediteranean sea. you see what i mean when you can twist the words to mean many things in that qaintrain or any.

great chunks of the southern hemisphere was unknown in europe around the time of nostrodamus, australia and new zealand wasnt discovered until the late 18th century, so i would figure that predictions for that part of the world would be few or none.
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Reply #11 - Oct 19th, 2014 at 6:42pm
 
stryder wrote on Jun 24th, 2014 at 5:42pm:
Michel de Nostredame (depending on the source, 14 or 21 December 1503[1] – 2 July 1566), usually Latinised as Nostradamus, was a French apothecary and reputed seer who published collections of prophecies that have since become famous worldwide. He is best known for his book Les Propheties, the first edition of which appeared in 1555. Since the publication of this book, which has rarely been out of print since his death, Nostradamus has attracted a following that, along with much of the popular press, credits him with predicting many major world events.[2][3] Most academic sources maintain that the associations made between world events and Nostradamus's quatrains are largely the result of misinterpretations or mistranslations (sometimes deliberate) or else are so tenuous as to render them useless as evidence of any genuine predictive power.[4] Nevertheless, occasional commentators have successfully used a process of free interpretation and determined "twisting" of his words to predict an apparently imminent event. For example, in 1867 (three years before it happened), Le Pelletier did so to anticipate either the triumph or the defeat of Napoleon III in a war that, in the event, begged to be identified as the Franco-Prussian War, while admitting that he could not specify either which or when.[




This kind of thing is very subjective and objective, in my opinion, depending on ones personal perspective/beliefs/. When I was a tad younger, I was interested enough to read his quatrains, and I have to admit to not personally finding anything relevant to world history at, or after his time. Reminds me of the bible and the interpretations there of. I don't believe in psychics either.....yet. Never say never.
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Reply #12 - Oct 19th, 2014 at 11:08pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 8:38am:
Basically all of Nostradamus' famous quatrains were cases of postdiction rather than prediction.


Or making things upt that were very vague - see the classic one about Gangnam style. Absolute baloney.
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Why the bugger did I get stuck on a planet chalked full of imbeciles?
 
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Reply #13 - Nov 4th, 2014 at 12:10pm
 
MumboJumbo wrote on Oct 19th, 2014 at 11:08pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 8:38am:
Basically all of Nostradamus' famous quatrains were cases of postdiction rather than prediction.


Or making things upt that were very vague - see the classic one about Gangnam style. Absolute baloney.



THe vagueness helps especially with misinterpretation. For instance, every time Nostradamus mentions the new city the followers think he means New York, however in other writings he actually points out he means Naples.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #14 - Nov 9th, 2014 at 9:58pm
 
Here the Quatrains of Mitchel of Nostradamus warning us of this new power emerging in the Middle east, which goal, as it name suggests is to conquer all the levant countries ( Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine, Israel, Cyprus , the Turkish region of Hatay and Egypt) and it is boosted by Alqaeda, an evil organization which headquarters are somewhere in Afghanistan ( Tartaria in times of Nostradamus).



Quatrain 55.54
From the Black Sea and the great Tartaria,
A king shall come to see France,
He shall go across Alane (Russia) and Armenia,
And shall leave a bloody rod in Byzantine.

Comment: Tartaria is located in Central Asia, Siberia perhaps. Russian troops shall initiate from the Black Sea region, conquering Turkey, Italy, and eventually will reach France.

5.55
Out of Arabian axis,
Shall be born a strong master of Mohammedan law,
Who shall vex Spain, conquer Granada,
Plus by sea shall invade Lygustic people.

Comment: Muslim fundamentalists under Iranian leadership shall conquer Spain and invade Italian coasts.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1019466/pg1


Actually many people believe that nostrodamus predicted the rise of radical or fundamental islam in the 21st century but these kinds of people will still twist and distort any words from any qaintrain of nostrodamus to fit any specific historical event
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