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Reply #15 - Jun 27th, 2014 at 10:58pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 27th, 2014 at 9:30pm:
Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 27th, 2014 at 6:42pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 27th, 2014 at 6:26pm:
Lionel Edriess wrote Today at 4:54pm:
Muslims established their credentials and their allegiances in this country as early as 1915.



The boongs established their credentials long before that. Still, they have no justification for being here in the first place.

Criminal. There will be consequences, you know.


I find it rather amusing that you took the bother to cherry-pick my post, rather than quote it in its entirety ( t'was not long, after all), before you chose a piece to comment upon.

Miss the bit about the debt we owe? Of course not.

I'm still hopeful that one of these days there'll be evidence found of a prior occupation of this continent that pre-dates the Aboriginal.

Now wouldn't THAT throw a spanner into the works of the indigenous victim-hood industry!  Miam miam!  Cool



The debt we owe? To the Muselman?

Oh, Lionel, I’m going to have to put up with Taipan bitching about that comment in our foxhole for months. Possibly years. We’re planning a long war against these boongs.

Let’s just hope it doesn’t rain too much. And let’s hope Taipan doesn’t complain to the Gestapo.

I’ll be forced to name names, you know.


The Burqa's on a bit tight still I see. Not happy Aisha  Grin
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Reply #16 - Jun 27th, 2014 at 11:50pm
 
If I may say, I’m really grateful to Taipan for raising the issue of the impending war and its consequences. This is something the multicultural apologists want to keep quiet about.

If we all stand together as superior white persons, I’m sure we can stop the war once and for all.

Would that work, Taipan? Any chance we could just have a chat or play a game of cricket or something?
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Reply #17 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 12:11am
 
You could always just keep sitting online and make posts like a nice little
muslim girl who does what she is told  Grin.
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Reply #18 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 12:27am
 
T'would appear that a couple of historians have attempted to correct me on a previous statement of mine, to wit:

" ... I'm still hopeful that one of these days there'll be evidence found of a prior occupation of this continent that pre-dates the Aboriginal. ... "

I have been reminded that there have been successive waves of Aboriginal settlement and resulting conquest.

Are we really to believe that the British claim of Terra Nullius is original?

While we may deem the Aboriginal as this continent's indigenous, is there anything to establish their claim as the land's first people?

What I am wishing for, gentlemen, is definitive proof that Aboriginal settlement has displaced/replaced an earlier people on this ancient continent - i.e. pre-dates. Then we may have an opportunity to paint their history as black as they paint ours.

As regards our debt to the 'Muselmen', perhaps I was wrong when I made mention of all those whose efforts led us to name a railway system after them. Perhaps they were not Muslim at all.

Perhaps I could be forgiven for assuming that those early Afghans were not predominantly Christian? Either way, back in those times, they certainly 'fitted in' to the local society.

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Reply #19 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 12:59am
 
Ah yes yea old Afghan cameleers rolled out for islam.   Roll Eyes

The Abo's never called Australia Australia.

Countries have been fought over and won for centuries upon centuries, if we are going to harp on about traditional owners what a crock. No one knows if a race existed before abo's at all. It means diddly squat. Even if there was none it doesn't make them owners of anything. Just like being the owners of Ayers Rock is a crock.

The bottom line is displacing , annihilating through war or overrunning a country has been the norm in every country on the earth for centuries. Yet here we are still whining over aboriginals. Didn't K Dudd say he was sorry on behalf of how many generations of Labor and Greens supporters.   Grin .

For goodness sakes. They lost, we built Australia, they still live out in the bush, we still give handouts. What else is in the pipeline ?
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Reply #20 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 3:01pm
 
Soren wrote on Jun 27th, 2014 at 8:56pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2014 at 7:22pm:
Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 27th, 2014 at 4:54pm:
Muslims established their credentials and their allegiances in this country as early as 1915.


Some Muslims did, Lionel.  What about those who have fought for Australia in wars since then? 

Name them.


Now now, old boy, you could at least try to assimilate. In this country we have things called manners.

You’re free, of course, to continue with your Kraut barking of orders, but you may find a slight reluctance on the part of your inferiors. Rather than your usual schnell schnell, you might like to try a "please" or a "thank you". You can even accompany these words with a kindly smile, performed by raising each side of your mouth in an upwardly direction.

Yes, I know that in your superior culture this is seen as grinning (and verboten), but we British are a more amiable race of people. Your Lutheran compulsion to offend as many people as possible is a quaint and charming expression of your cultural mores, but in our country this is seen as impolite. It is, as we say, not cricket.

If you want to join Taipan and myself in the upcoming war, please try to assimilate a little better. I don’t want to have to send the Gestapo over to ask any uncomfortable questions.
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Reply #21 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 3:41pm
 
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 12:59am:
Ah yes yea old Afghan cameleers rolled out for islam.   Roll Eyes

The Abo's never called Australia Australia.

Countries have been fought over and won for centuries upon centuries, if we are going to harp on about traditional owners what a crock. 


Ah yes, but I think you’ll find Taipan is arguing that Australia does indeed have traditional owners, and those owners are we British.

If I was you, I’d be careful expressing views like the above. You don’t want to offend Taipan and be forced to join the ranks of the enemy.
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Reply #22 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 3:53pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 3:41pm:
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 12:59am:
Ah yes yea old Afghan cameleers rolled out for islam.   Roll Eyes

The Abo's never called Australia Australia.

Countries have been fought over and won for centuries upon centuries, if we are going to harp on about traditional owners what a crock. 


Ah yes, but I think you’ll find Taipan is arguing that Australia does indeed have traditional owners, and those owners are we British.

If I was you, I’d be careful expressing views like the above. You don’t want to offend Taipan and be forced to join the ranks of the enemy.


The concept of ownership is British not abo.

If I were you I'd loosen the burqa so you can actually think.
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Reply #23 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:04pm
 
Soren wrote on Jun 27th, 2014 at 8:56pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2014 at 7:22pm:
Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 27th, 2014 at 4:54pm:
Muslims established their credentials and their allegiances in this country as early as 1915.


Some Muslims did, Lionel.  What about those who have fought for Australia in wars since then? 

Name them.


I only know of one personally.  However, as this Islamophobe article points out, there are 88 Muslims serving in the ADF at the present moment, Soren.  Is it's claim to be disbelieved?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Then we should forget our "auxiliaries", the Muslim interpreters and helpers whom we have used in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Is their service to be denied as well?

Soren, your bigotry appears to know no bounds...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #24 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:06pm
 
Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 12:27am:
T'would appear that a couple of historians have attempted to correct me on a previous statement of mine, to wit:

" ... I'm still hopeful that one of these days there'll be evidence found of a prior occupation of this continent that pre-dates the Aboriginal. ... "

I have been reminded that there have been successive waves of Aboriginal settlement and resulting conquest.

Are we really to believe that the British claim of Terra Nullius is original?

While we may deem the Aboriginal as this continent's indigenous, is there anything to establish their claim as the land's first people?

What I am wishing for, gentlemen, is definitive proof that Aboriginal settlement has displaced/replaced an earlier people on this ancient continent - i.e. pre-dates. Then we may have an opportunity to paint their history as black as they paint ours.

As regards our debt to the 'Muselmen', perhaps I was wrong when I made mention of all those whose efforts led us to name a railway system after them. Perhaps they were not Muslim at all.

Perhaps I could be forgiven for assuming that those early Afghans were not predominantly Christian? Either way, back in those times, they certainly 'fitted in' to the local society.

Cool


Lionel, it might be an idea to not only brush up on the Anthropological discoveries over the last 30+ years but also to try and study a bit of jurisprudence as well.  You appear to have a profound misunderstanding of what Terra Nullius was...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #25 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:09pm
 
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 12:59am:
Ah yes yea old Afghan cameleers rolled out for islam.   Roll Eyes

The Abo's never called Australia Australia.

Countries have been fought over and won for centuries upon centuries, if we are going to harp on about traditional owners what a crock. No one knows if a race existed before abo's at all. It means diddly squat. Even if there was none it doesn't make them owners of anything. Just like being the owners of Ayers Rock is a crock.

The bottom line is displacing , annihilating through war or overrunning a country has been the norm in every country on the earth for centuries. Yet here we are still whining over aboriginals. Didn't K Dudd say he was sorry on behalf of how many generations of Labor and Greens supporters.   Grin .

For goodness sakes. They lost, we built Australia, they still live out in the bush, we still give handouts. What else is in the pipeline ?


Well, you do enjoy displaying your ignorance and racism, now don't you, Mahdi.  Your post is riddled with both and shows a profound misunderstanding of Australia's history and present day society.  I'd suggest you join Lionel back in the classroom...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:09pm
 
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 3:53pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 3:41pm:
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 12:59am:
Ah yes yea old Afghan cameleers rolled out for islam.   Roll Eyes

The Abo's never called Australia Australia.

Countries have been fought over and won for centuries upon centuries, if we are going to harp on about traditional owners what a crock. 


Ah yes, but I think you’ll find Taipan is arguing that Australia does indeed have traditional owners, and those owners are we British.

If I was you, I’d be careful expressing views like the above. You don’t want to offend Taipan and be forced to join the ranks of the enemy.


The concept of ownership is British not abo.

If I were you I'd loosen the burqa so you can actually think.


Good point, Mahdi. We Europeans are the traditional owners because we invented contract law and called Australia "Australia".

That should make Taipan feel a bit better.
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Reply #27 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:10pm
 
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 3:53pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 3:41pm:
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 12:59am:
Ah yes yea old Afghan cameleers rolled out for islam.   Roll Eyes

The Abo's never called Australia Australia.

Countries have been fought over and won for centuries upon centuries, if we are going to harp on about traditional owners what a crock. 


Ah yes, but I think you’ll find Taipan is arguing that Australia does indeed have traditional owners, and those owners are we British.

If I was you, I’d be careful expressing views like the above. You don’t want to offend Taipan and be forced to join the ranks of the enemy.


The concept of ownership is British not abo.


Yet the Mabo and Wik High Court decisions have demonstrated otherwise.  Perhaps you need to stop displaying your racism so proudly and actually learn something about your adopted country's history?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #28 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:17pm
 
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 3:53pm:
The concept of ownership is British not abo.


Interestingly the Americans used the exact same excuse to justify their stealing of native Indian land.
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Reply #29 - Jun 28th, 2014 at 6:07pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 4:10pm:
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 3:53pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 3:41pm:
Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jun 28th, 2014 at 12:59am:
Ah yes yea old Afghan cameleers rolled out for islam.   Roll Eyes

The Abo's never called Australia Australia.

Countries have been fought over and won for centuries upon centuries, if we are going to harp on about traditional owners what a crock. 


Ah yes, but I think you’ll find Taipan is arguing that Australia does indeed have traditional owners, and those owners are we British.

If I was you, I’d be careful expressing views like the above. You don’t want to offend Taipan and be forced to join the ranks of the enemy.


The concept of ownership is British not abo.


Yet the Mabo and Wik High Court decisions have demonstrated otherwise.  Perhaps you need to stop displaying your racism so proudly and actually learn something about your adopted country's history?   Roll Eyes


Yes, but what Taipan seems to be saying is that these High Court judges are the enemy and will face consequences in the upcoming war.

Who’s side are the white judges on, Taipan?

In the words of the old boy’s poetess, please explain.
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