Lionel Edriess wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 7:13pm:


Explained it to you many times before, Lionel.  Do you really need it explained to you again?   Anybody who can prove an enduring cultural and historical relationship to the land they are claiming Native Title on, which predates white settlement can claim it.   

So, if you can find some pre-Aboriginal Australians from the gracile groups which predated the arrival of those we now call the Indigenes, and they can prove their enduring cultural historical and cultural ties to the land, they can put in a NT claim which would have some hope of success.

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Funnily enough, Australian Indigenes are actually more "pure" than most "Whites", Lionel, in that their genes are drawn primarily from a group which was pretty well isolated for over 50,000 years, that is until ~200 years ago...   

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2014 at 7:53pm:


Yes, but where’s Lionel’s Mabo claim? Surely Lionel should have access to his species’ real estate.

In the words of the old boy’s favourite poetess, please explain.

Wow!

Now I've got a tag-team. A triumvirate of fans!

"Tis too much for me, having previously endured such sniping and erudite censorship in another life.

Best I withdraw battered, but not answered, before I become further enmeshed and embittered.

In such encounters, a debate is an oxymoron.

I yield, gentlemen! I have not the dedication.

Intransigence is never bested.

But point was never proven.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 8:53pm:


Nothing new, Brian, as you very well know. It's a trait of mine you continually exploit.

It's merely a knee-jerk reaction to already recognised tactics. I do not wish to engage in ever-diminishing vortexes of obfuscation.

If you ever deign to address some of my posts in their entirety, rather than nit-pick snippets and therefore detract from the subject under discussion, then I shall give your commentary the credit that it deserves.

As previously mentioned, I hold little truck with obfuscation.

My only intention is to make a point, not to win an argument, therefore some of my statements may seem contentious. Indeed, some of them are so designed. If you feel the need to pick up a hook, there is no necessity on my part to play the game. The hit alone was worth the bait.

I made a comment earlier about the debt this country owed to the Afghan tinkers, linesmen and cameleers that helped in the formation of this country. I still believe that. You yourself might do well to revise some of your own scholarly research.

'Tis a pity that that early contribution of theirs has now degenerated into feral pests and locally established jihadist universities. And become a point of contention.

What was once is no longer - much like our own Australian society.

And if you are inclined to scoff at the idea of an 'Australian' society, you might well ask where else in the world you would find such a 'bogan' society that we are all so keen to (seemingly) eschew. Maybe the Okies in the States? The 'other' rednecks?

Certainly not having a BBQ at your place, eh!

Or does your view of multiculturalism welcome even the debris of the societies since displaced by the well-meaning sycophants of Utopian idealism?

Brian is right.
First contact:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Australia

as for the First Fleet there may have been Muslims among the convicts, certainly there were Muslims in the Colony by 1800 according to some genealogists.

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jul 4^th, 2014 at 10:08pm:


No, Lionel you cannot blame me for your unwillingness to actually argue your proclamations.  Call me sceptical but it smacks to of an unwillingness to be allow yourself to challenged.

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I never obfuscate, Lionel.  I always attempt to engage my opponents in a Socratic Dialogue to discover if they really understand their position on the topic under discussion.  An excellent example is that of terra nullius.  It was obvious you didn't even understand the concept and its application.   

Now you duck out again.   

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Unless one picks at the nits, you end up with lice, Lionel.   

If you start from a misconception, then you'll end up talking gibberish.

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You hold little truck with being challenged, I'd suggest.  Rather than defend your position you'll runaway.   

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 6:09pm:

Says who. Evidence!!!