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Reply #180 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:01pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:44pm:

I don't want to share my country with a bunch of cowards.

You know nothing about them, at all.

The Sri Lankans leaving were described a Lankan work colleague to me as useless, trouble makers who wouldn't be missed.

How would he know who is on those boats?

So were taking in other peoples garbage in other words?

Again, you have no idea who they are, other than that they are Sri Lankan. Sounds like racist bigotry to me.

Interesting most are men in those boats. So they fled and left the women and children behind?
Like I said cowards. Just what I'd expect from them.

How do you know most are men?

My grandad served in India during the unrest in 1946-48. He told me what they are like on the subcontinent.
Running away and leaving their women is about right for that lot.

Ummmmm.....and who ran away from India?

I don't want to share my country with cowards.

Oh, I don't mind non-aggressive people. I'd much rather have a Sri Lankan pacifistic as a neighbour than a racist bigot.

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Reply #181 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:59pm:

hermoine wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

hermoine wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:49pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:44pm:

I don't want to share my country with cowards.

And I don't want to share my country with ignorant racists, however, I have no right to ask you to leave.

And me with leftist traitors.

You've been watching too many movies, princess.

Your lots day is coming and your power gone.

Ah, threats.

What else would one expect from an irrational, uneducated bigot?

Roll Eyes

That's not a threat. It's fact. Well your mates aren't paying their way into our country anymore. A fact that fills me with absolute bliss.

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Reply #182 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

hermoine wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:49pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:44pm:

I don't want to share my country with cowards.

And I don't want to share my country with ignorant racists, however, I have no right to ask you to leave.

And me with leftist traitors.

You've been watching too many movies, princess.

The mess we have in Europe right now with the large scale influx of non Europeans and creations of ghettoes of non European origin people is the result of the limp wristed left wing mindset from the 1960s.

The large scale victories of parties of the Right are the result if the backlash this has created.

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Reply #183 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:36pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:55pm:

There are other relevant comments/questions already asked, but I'll add this. Do you really reckon some rich bugger would (either alone or with his family) jump on board some leaky boat and risk their life thereon while sailing the high seas if they were not in greater fear of not leaving. Use your head, Andrei.

but they do, they are in no threat in Indonesia yet they risk their lives making the boat trip. so I would be interested in why you think they risk their lives to get here if they are coming from a place where they are not under threat or persecution. Ideas?

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Reply #184 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:39pm

ian wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:55pm:

There are other relevant comments/questions already asked, but I'll add this. Do you really reckon some rich bugger would (either alone or with his family) jump on board some leaky boat and risk their life thereon while sailing the high seas if they were not in greater fear of not leaving. Use your head, Andrei.

but they do, they are in no threat in Indonesia yet they risk their lives making the boat trip. so I would be interested in why you think they risk their lives to get here if they are coming from a place where they are not under threat or persecution. Ideas?

I was referring to the Sri Lankans who are the subject of this Thread.

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Reply #185 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:46pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:39pm:

ian wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:55pm:

There are other relevant comments/questions already asked, but I'll add this. Do you really reckon some rich bugger would (either alone or with his family) jump on board some leaky boat and risk their life thereon while sailing the high seas if they were not in greater fear of not leaving. Use your head, Andrei.

but they do, they are in no threat in Indonesia yet they risk their lives making the boat trip. so I would be interested in why you think they risk their lives to get here if they are coming from a place where they are not under threat or persecution. Ideas?

I was referring to the Sri Lankans who are the subject of this Thread.

Same principle, the Sri lankans can simply cross to Tamil Nadu where they are not under threat. Why dont they do this?

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Reply #186 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:50pm

ian wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:39pm:

ian wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:55pm:

There are other relevant comments/questions already asked, but I'll add this. Do you really reckon some rich bugger would (either alone or with his family) jump on board some leaky boat and risk their life thereon while sailing the high seas if they were not in greater fear of not leaving. Use your head, Andrei.

but they do, they are in no threat in Indonesia yet they risk their lives making the boat trip. so I would be interested in why you think they risk their lives to get here if they are coming from a place where they are not under threat or persecution. Ideas?

I was referring to the Sri Lankans who are the subject of this Thread.

Same principle, the Sri lankans can simply cross to Tamil Nadu where they are not under threat. Why dont they do this?

That's already been addressed, but I'll add ~ if it was an okay place for them to go to, don't you reckon they would go there, instead of risking death (including perhaps for their Family) on Achmed's leaky boat sailing the High Seas running Morrison's illegal gauntlet to get to Australia Manus Island. Use your head.

This might also assist.

Click here.

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India is not a signatory to the 1951 Refugee Convention. Refugees have no right to freedom of movement. India’s Foreigners Act 1946 and Citizenship Act 1955 define all non-citizens who enter without visas to be illegal migrants, with no exception for refugees or asylum seekers. Possession of a UNHCR refugee certificate does not protect refugees from detention.

More than 100,000 Sri Lankan Tamils live in between 115 and 130 refugee camps in Tamil Nadu State in India. Aid workers say that some refugees live in thatched huts, others in small cement blockhouses. There are no proper toilet facilities, bathing facilities or adequate drinking water. There is no rubbish collection, and only some camps have medical facilities. Electricity is provided in some locations, but usually only between 6 am and 6 pm. In some camps there is no electricity for many inmates. Six houses at Thiruvadhavur collapsed in monsoonal rains recently, killing a girl.

The camps are of two types: general camps and so-called special camps — which Indian NGOs say are really concentration camps. People can go out of the general camps, but require three levels of police clearance. They are subject to constant surveillance by security forces and face travel restrictions. NGOs are generally barred from working in the refugee camps. Even UNHCR officials are not permitted access.

An Amnesty International investigation found that general camp inmates potentially face great oppression from security authorities. ‘The Q branch (the anti-terror wing of the state police) has forced labourers at the Goomidpoondi camp to pilfer steel from the factories where they work’, one refugee told Amnesty. Amnesty reports that refugees were made to rob banks in 2008 and 2011, ‘and the Q branch were involved’. If refugees caught up in such abuses complain they may find their young relatives packed off to ‘special camps’.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Abbott Mob Illegally Processing Refugees @ Sea Reply #187 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:51pm crickets
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38526 Gender:	Re: Abbott Mob Illegally Processing Refugees @ Sea Reply #188 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 10:02pm ian wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:51pm: crickets Have a re-read. I have made an edit in the hope it will assist you understand why Tamil Nadu (which is an Indian State, not an Sri Lankan territory) is a hell hole for Sir Lankan refugees.
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Reply #189 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 10:07pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

hermoine wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:49pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:44pm:

I don't want to share my country with cowards.

And I don't want to share my country with ignorant racists, however, I have no right to ask you to leave.

And me with leftist traitors.

You've been watching too many movies, princess.

The mess we have in Europe right now with the large scale influx of non Europeans and creations of ghettoes of non European origin people is the result of the limp wristed left wing mindset from the 1960s.

The large scale victories of parties of the Right are the result if the backlash this has created.

Hang on, you are a non European .... according to you, you're a South African Aussie ....

by your own admission, you are the problem

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #190 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 10:08pm

ian wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:55pm:

There are other relevant comments/questions already asked, but I'll add this. Do you really reckon some rich bugger would (either alone or with his family) jump on board some leaky boat and risk their life thereon while sailing the high seas if they were not in greater fear of not leaving. Use your head, Andrei.

but they do, they are in no threat in Indonesia yet they risk their lives making the boat trip. so I would be interested in why you think they risk their lives to get here if they are coming from a place where they are not under threat or persecution. Ideas?

In Indonesia they can never work, never own property, never educate their children, .... Indonesia is simply not an option.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #191 - Jul 5^th, 2014 at 10:32pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 10:08pm:

ian wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 9:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:55pm:

There are other relevant comments/questions already asked, but I'll add this. Do you really reckon some rich bugger would (either alone or with his family) jump on board some leaky boat and risk their life thereon while sailing the high seas if they were not in greater fear of not leaving. Use your head, Andrei.

but they do, they are in no threat in Indonesia yet they risk their lives making the boat trip. so I would be interested in why you think they risk their lives to get here if they are coming from a place where they are not under threat or persecution. Ideas?

In Indonesia they can never work, never own property, never educate their children, .... Indonesia is simply not an option.

not true. But even if it is, why then make their way to Indonesia when there are other, closer places where they will not be persecuted?

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Abbott Mob Illegally Processing Refugees @ Sea Reply #193 - Jul 6^th, 2014 at 12:11am The Libs have done the right thing, no question about it. Consider the alternative, its not worth thinking about.
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Reply #194 - Jul 6^th, 2014 at 12:49am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 5^th, 2014 at 7:44pm:

I don't want to share my country with a bunch of cowards.

Aren't you South African? Didn't you flee the RSA when the Apartheid government was deposed?

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The Sri Lankans leaving were described a Lankan work colleague to me as useless, trouble makers who wouldn't be missed.

Out of a matter of interest, is he Sinhalese, rather than Tamil?

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So were taking in other peoples garbage in other words?

We always have. Forgotten who were the first European settlers? The dross of the British working class, the sweepings of the gutter, the inmates of the prison hulks...

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Interesting most are men in those boats. So they fled and left the women and children behind?

It is invariably the men who are active politically and therefore the most likely to earn the wrath of the government or opposition groups. Women and children tend to be left alone because of that.

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Like I said cowards. Just what I'd expect from them.

My grandad served in India during the unrest in 1946-48. He told me what they are like on the subcontinent.

So, you don't think matters might have changed in over 50 years?

Nowadays, rather than the British Empire killing the natives, it's the natives killing their fellow natives...

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Running away and leaving their women is about right for that lot.

I don't want to share my country with cowards.

Yet we have welcomed South Africans, Rhodesians, British, Irish, Scots, Welsh, all fleeing oppression and hardship, to name a few nationalities and I'm sure you've welcomed them as well Andrei. Could it be they're OK 'cause they're white? Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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