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Jul 3rd, 2014 at 5:52am
 
Asylum seekers are reportedly being secretly screened at sea via video link, potentially breaching international law.

One Sri Lankan naval official has confirmed that some hopeful refugees will be transferred into Sri Lankan custody at sea after being asked just four basic questions, although another Sri Lankan official denied the procedure.

Fairfax Media reports the asylum seekers are being asked their name, country of origin, where they had come from and why they had left before their claim for asylum is considered, but lawyer Julian Burnside says Australia could be guilty of refoulement.

Non-refoulement is a key facet of refugee law, regarding protection of refugees from being returned to areas where their lives or freedoms could be threatened.

"It is very clear the department is screening people to get them out as fast as possible and not with a view to assess whether they are refugees," Mr Burnside said.

Director of Human Rights Watch Elaine Pearson also questioned the practice, calling it "not only highly disturbing, but probably unlawful".

Christmas Island local councillor Gordon Thomson on Wednesday called on the federal government to confirm the accuracy of reports that asylum seekers had been transferred from Australian custody.

"It's a very, very, very disturbing story, if it's true," he told AAP.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/24374328/australia-assessing-refugees-at-sea/


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Reply #1 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 7:14am
 

We, the people of Australia have a right to know what our government is doing with those seeking asylum in our country.

If found guilty of unlawful activities, Abbott and Morrison should be hauled before the international court.

What country in the world would hand asylum seekers back to the very people they were fleeing? What have we become? What maniacs do we have in charge?
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Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:25am
 

Stop the lies Morriscum!

Silence on missing asylum seeker boat a disgrace to the nation


"Anyone who troubles to look behind the political rhetoric can identify Morrison’s lies."

The boat last made contact with Australia by phone on June 28 at about 10am. At that time, the boat was 175 nautical miles from Christmas Island.

That same Saturday, Labor MP Alannah MacTiernan was on Christmas Island. She said immigration staff on Christmas Island were “on standby waiting for instructions”. She said she had been told two boats had been intercepted. She told the ABC: “They're saying that two boats have been intercepted and the ship on which they're being loaded is in Christmas Island waters.”

That same day Scott Morrison refused to confirm the boats’ existence despite the fact that people in Australia had spoken to people on board. He said that there were no “significant incidents at sea” to report.


The known facts suggest several Tamil refugees reached the waters off Christmas Island last weekend. The facts make it apparent they included several children, and it is easy to infer they would have been distressed: it is a long and uncomfortable journey. They were seeking asylum from the Rajapaksa government in Sri Lanka, which has an appalling record of mistreating Tamils who had (or may have had) any connection with the Tamil Tigers.

From this point on, the facts are more difficult to pin down.


Morrison officially calls boat people “illegal” in an attempt to convey the impression that they are criminals, when in fact they commit no offence at all by coming here as they do.


And whatever the facts turn out to be, Morrison has treated the Australian public with contempt. The public have a legitimate interest in knowing what is being done, in our name, to people who have done nothing worse than ask for our help. Morrison either knows the fate of the refugees or he does not.  If he does, he should tell us: either that they have been rescued or helped, or that they have been sent to Sri Lanka.  The alternative is that he does not know, in which case he should be sacked for incompetence.

We should no longer be treated as if we do not care about the fate of other human beings.


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http://www.smh.com.au/comment/silence-on-missing-asylum-seeker-boat-a-disgrace-t...
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Reply #3 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:29am
 
Keep up the good job Tony.   Smiley

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Reply #4 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:31am
 
Swagman wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:29am:
Keep up the good job Tony.   Smiley




Undermining the global approach to refugees so causing even more deaths and more opportunity for persecution. How is that a good thing?

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Reply #5 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am
 

Efficient, effective.

Well done Libs.

We no longer have scores of illegals daily coming here, risking their own lives and lives of Australians.
Everyone is safer.

It is a magnificant victory.
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Reply #6 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:48am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
Efficient, effective.

Well done Libs.

We no longer have scores of illegals daily coming here, risking their own lives and lives of Australians.
Everyone is safer.

It is a magnificant victory.


It's a blight on our record - if I felt any responsbility for the policy I'd be ashamed.

A government willing to treat people they way they have for political ends is dangerous and heartless.

If I believed in people deserving things, I'd say anyone who supports this policy deserves to become a refugee and have to deal with the situation first hand.
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Reply #7 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:49am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
We no longer have scores of illegals daily coming here ...



Incorrect (once again).

"There are 13 times more illegal immigrants than there are asylum seekers in detention who have arrived by boat.

"Figures obtained by The Advertiser from the Immigration Department and under the Freedom of Information Act show plane arrivals from the United States (5080) and Britain (3610) are near the top of the list of those in the country without a valid visa. China (8070), and Malaysia (4200) round out the top four."

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/illegal-immigrants-arrive-by-plane/story-e6fr...
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Reply #8 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:51am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:38am:
Efficient, effective.

Efficient? No, It's costing us billions of dollars. Effective? No, they're still coming.


Well done Libs.

We no longer have scores of illegals daily coming here,

They are coming by air.


risking their own lives and lives of Australians.

They spent two weeks in a rickety old boat in rough seas calling for help.


Everyone is safer.

Sending them back to torture or death is not safer.


It is a magnificant victory.


Sending people to their death is not a victory.


We could always offer Sri Lank billions of dollars to stop the torture, better idea, yes?
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Reply #9 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:26am
 
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Swagman wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:29am:
Keep up the good job Tony.   Smiley




Undermining the global approach to refugees so causing even more deaths and more opportunity for persecution. How is that a good thing?



He's stopping the unauthorised boats and thus limiting the amount of unlawful non-citiizens.

Burnside is likely unhappy because Tony is limiting his source of potential income.

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Reply #10 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:35am
 
Swagman wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:26am:
____ wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:31am:
Swagman wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:29am:
Keep up the good job Tony.   Smiley




Undermining the global approach to refugees so causing even more deaths and more opportunity for persecution. How is that a good thing?



He's stopping the unauthorised boats and thus limiting the amount of unlawful non-citiizens.

Burnside is likely unhappy because Tony is limiting his source of potential income.



He is also likely sending people to their deaths.
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Reply #11 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:36am
 
Kytro wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:35am:
Swagman wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:26am:
____ wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:31am:
Swagman wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:29am:
Keep up the good job Tony.   Smiley




Undermining the global approach to refugees so causing even more deaths and more opportunity for persecution. How is that a good thing?



He's stopping the unauthorised boats and thus limiting the amount of unlawful non-citiizens.

Burnside is likely unhappy because Tony is limiting his source of potential income.



He is also likely sending people to their deaths.

explain your claim.
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Reply #12 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:41am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:25am:


Morrison officially calls boat people “illegal” in an attempt to convey the impression that they are criminals, when in fact they commit no offence at all by coming here as they do.



Clever spin but Morrison  is correct. Just because no offence is committed does not make the fact of the entry legal, it is still an illegal act to enter without a valid visa. You and the author are under the illusion that an illegal act must have a penalty, this is incorrect.
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Reply #13 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:44am
 
Kytro wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:35am:
Swagman wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:26am:
____ wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:31am:
Swagman wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 9:29am:
Keep up the good job Tony.   Smiley




Undermining the global approach to refugees so causing even more deaths and more opportunity for persecution. How is that a good thing?



He's stopping the unauthorised boats and thus limiting the amount of unlawful non-citiizens.

Burnside is likely unhappy because Tony is limiting his source of potential income.



He is also likely sending people to their deaths.


No, the drowning deaths can be linked to the Left's relaxation of the Howard Govt's border protection policies.

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Reply #14 - Jul 3rd, 2014 at 10:48am
 
Labor and Greens concerned by 'shifting goal posts'

Labor is seeking a briefing form the Immigration Department on the legislation.

A spokesperson for Labor's immigration spokesman Richard Marles says the Opposition would be "extremely concerned if the Government attempts to use complex legislation to sneak through shifting the goal posts on what determines refugee status".

Greens immigration spokeswoman Sarah Hanson-Young says the proposed changes misunderstand the actions of asylum seekers.

"Forcing them to have to prove that they have over 50 per cent chance of people killed or tortured, otherwise they will be sent home, they won't be given protection," she said.

"That is incredibly ideological and grubby dog whistling. This is about allowing the Government to deport more refugees back home to danger."

Senator Hanson-Young says the bill will result in more asylum seekers lives being put at risk.

"This is a mean, dangerous law from the Government," she said.

"If this was not so serious, if it was not about life or death, it would actually be a joke."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-25/morrison-pushes-for-asylum-seeker-processi...
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