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Families Lose Up To $3500 End Of Mine, Carbon Tax
Jul 5th, 2014 at 7:37am
 
Families lose up to $3500 a year in end of mine, carbon taxes

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    July 5, 2014


Projected annual savings in electricity costs of $550 per household from scrapping the carbon tax may be dwarfed by the withdrawal of up to $3500 per household in other government payments linked to it and the mining tax, according to new research.      Shocked

The Australian Institute modelling, based on a low-income family with two working adults and three school-age children, has concluded the withdrawal of several payments and offsets associated with the clean energy package and others notionally funded by the Minerals Resource Rent Tax will take away more money than will be saved after the carbon tax is repealed.

The government has convened a two-week session of the Senate from Monday with the prime purpose of repealing Labor's two most unpopular and politically costly taxes, the carbon and mining taxes.

Both repeals were clear Coalition promises before the election but have been blocked in the Labor-Greens dominated Senate.


But with the new Senate, the government believes it has the numbers to dump both taxes and a raft of measures associated with them.

The original version of the mining tax was projected at one point to have been capable of raising up to $12 billion before a series of changes negotiated under extreme political duress resulted in a truncated version, which has raised almost nothing.

So poorly has the tax performed in revenue terms that the Coalition has claimed its repeal, along with the spending programs supposedly funded by it, such as the School Kids Bonus, would actually save the country $13.4 billion.

There appears to be Senate support for removal of the unpopular mining tax, particularly because the Palmer United Party bloc of four votes is lined up with the government.

But less appreciated in the broader electorate is the cumulative cost to families of its removal.

The Australian Institute assessment of the financial impact has tallied this as high as $3500 in one year alone based on a family with three children, one at primary school and two in high school, and where both adults earn just above the minimum wage of $37,000.      Sad

The bulk of that loss comes by removing the School Kids Bonus, which, for the above family, is currently about $2050.

That household will also lose $1000 from the repeal of the low income superannuation contribution scheme, which pays $500 to low-income individuals to boost inadequate retirement savings.      Sad

Another $456 will be lost by the scheduled $1200 rise in the tax-free threshold next year to $19,400, which will go as part of the clean energy repeal package.      

The findings are unlikely to dissuade the government from proceeding with the two repeals, despite last-minute attempts by the opposition and the Greens to frustrate that goal.

A Senate committee was denied a quorum on Friday when Greens and Labor refused to attend the meeting.

The government had hoped to use the changed numbers on the committee to alter its carbon tax repeal bill report date from July 14 to July 7. That would have enabled debate on the repeal to start on Monday rather than a week later.

The government is desperate to have the carbon tax repeal through the Senate in the next fortnight because it has been advised that to delay beyond July means companies have to allow for the tax for up to another year.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/families-lose-up-to-3500-a-year-in-end-of-mine-carbon-taxes-20140704-3bdvu.html#ixzz36XNeWMO8
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Reply #1 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 7:41am
 
Billions of dollars of cuts and billions of dollars of tax increases...yep...families will always be better off under the Liar King  Grin
How low will he go in the polls when the truth hits home?
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Reply #2 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 7:49am
 
Shame we only have one party that can do math and projections, the liberals. The other party can only fumble and fall over on its projections and create unfunded spending which creates ever larger debts and interest payments. Yeh you guessed right, its labor.
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Reply #3 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 7:56am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 7:49am:
Shame we only have one party that can do math and projections, the liberals. The other party can only fumble and fall over on its projections and create unfunded spending which creates ever larger debts and interest payments. Yeh you guessed right, its labor.


Remember that year Swan was saying he'd have a modest surplus, then it was a small one and then a minor deficit? Turned out to be one of the biggest deficits ever!!! Grin
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Reply #4 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 8:19am
 
ohh looky, tweedle dee and tweedle dumb are both on ...


progressiveslol wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 7:49am:
Shame we only have one party that can do math and projections, the liberals.


this is the same maths tht said families would be $550 a year better off, right? Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #5 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 9:42am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 8:19am:
ohh looky, tweedle dee and tweedle dumb are both on ...


progressiveslol wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 7:49am:
Shame we only have one party that can do math and projections, the liberals.


this is the same maths tht said families would be $550 a year better off, right? Grin Grin Grin Grin


Abbotts maths is pretty good...he reckons that there were zero people in Australia until the poms started filling the place with thieves, rapists and prostitutes Cheesy
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Reply #6 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 9:51am
 
The good thing is, couples can now get $200 to go to marriage counselling after one of them is caught out rootin around!


"NEWLYWEDS across Australia will be given a $200 voucher for marriage counselling from July 1, as part of a $20 million trial to strengthen relationships and avoid family breakdowns.

Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews confirmed the Federal Government's $200 voucher scheme would proceed with a 12-month trial of 100,000 couples starting on July 1."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/federal-government-offers-newlywed...
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Reply #7 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:06am
 
Vic wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 9:51am:
The good thing is, couples can now get $200 to go to marriage counselling after one of them is caught out rootin around!


"NEWLYWEDS across Australia will be given a $200 voucher for marriage counselling from July 1, as part of a $20 million trial to strengthen relationships and avoid family breakdowns.

Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews confirmed the Federal Government's $200 voucher scheme would proceed with a 12-month trial of 100,000 couples starting on July 1."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/federal-government-offers-newlywed...


Just how many of those vouchers will go through Kevin Andrews wifes hands? She is a marriage councillor and this whole scheme was designed to benefit her as a thankyou for Kevins many years of loyal service to the libel party
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Reply #8 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:14am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:06am:
Vic wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 9:51am:
The good thing is, couples can now get $200 to go to marriage counselling after one of them is caught out rootin around!


"NEWLYWEDS across Australia will be given a $200 voucher for marriage counselling from July 1, as part of a $20 million trial to strengthen relationships and avoid family breakdowns.

Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews confirmed the Federal Government's $200 voucher scheme would proceed with a 12-month trial of 100,000 couples starting on July 1."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/federal-government-offers-newlywed...


Just how many of those vouchers will go through Kevin Andrews wifes hands? She is a marriage councillor and this whole scheme was designed to benefit her as a thankyou for Kevins many years of loyal service to the libel party


Fancy having Kevin sweatin over you....still better than pyne but eeewwww!  You would need a voucher!

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Reply #9 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:15am
 
Country is broke, we can't go on borrowing billions so economically illiterate bogan families can get there weekly pension check to spend of booze and pokies.

The good times are over, thanks Labor.
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Reply #10 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:17am
 
woof woof wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:15am:
Country is broke, we can't go on borrowing billions so economically illiterate bogan families can get there weekly pension check to spend of booze and pokies.

The good times are over, thanks Labor.


that must be why we are spending $20 million on marriage counselling
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Reply #11 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:20am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:17am:
woof woof wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:15am:
Country is broke, we can't go on borrowing billions so economically illiterate bogan families can get there weekly pension check to spend of booze and pokies.

The good times are over, thanks Labor.


that must be why we are spending $20 million on marriage counselling


Which is half what the last Government gave to Alcoa to pay it's carbon tax bill ....

Good policy the carbon tax. Here's a bill - and here's some money to pay it.

The saying of my old tutor goes if you aren't smart enough to get a job anywhere, the public sector or army will take you.

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Reply #12 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:20am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:17am:
woof woof wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:15am:
Country is broke, we can't go on borrowing billions so economically illiterate bogan families can get there weekly pension check to spend of booze and pokies.

The good times are over, thanks Labor.


that must be why we are spending $20 million on marriage counselling



And millions on installing pedophile priests in our schools.
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Reply #13 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:21am
 
adelcrow wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:20am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:17am:
woof woof wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:15am:
Country is broke, we can't go on borrowing billions so economically illiterate bogan families can get there weekly pension check to spend of booze and pokies.

The good times are over, thanks Labor.


that must be why we are spending $20 million on marriage counselling



And millions on installing pedophile priests in our schools.


Good lord a post that doesn't include the words Tony Abbott!!!!
I bet let FD know this accounts been hacked....
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Reply #14 - Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:36am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:20am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:17am:
woof woof wrote on Jul 5th, 2014 at 10:15am:
Country is broke, we can't go on borrowing billions so economically illiterate bogan families can get there weekly pension check to spend of booze and pokies.

The good times are over, thanks Labor.


that must be why we are spending $20 million on marriage counselling


Which is half what the last Government gave to Alcoa to pay it's carbon tax bill ....

Good policy the carbon tax. Here's a bill - and here's some money to pay it.

The saying of my old tutor goes if you aren't smart enough to get a job anywhere, the public sector or army will take you.

Cheesy


The money for Alcoa was a temporary measure to give the industry a chance to adapt.

Besides, i don't see you complaining when you get your government subsidies .... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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