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Reply #210 - Jul 25th, 2014 at 11:39pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 9:45pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 5:41pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 2:52pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 5:49pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 3:47pm:
Genetically we're all the same.    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin



You are  not.


We all share essentially the same genes.  It is the way they are combined which makes our individual differences.  Stop focusing on, what did Brian call them? "Superficial physical differences".    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Culture is important. And genetic differences are also important.

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Neither culture are important, unless you're a Xenophobe or a Racist, Soren.




So perceiving cultural difference is racist?? "Cultural differences must be unnoticed lest you want to be labelled a racist by Brain".

Are you really that confused?   Telling the difference between the Chinese and the Japanese is racist? Chinese and   French? Russians and Malaysians? All racist constructs, no difference at all.



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Reply #211 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:24am
 
Soren wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 11:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 9:45pm:
"Race" is non-existent.  It is a social construct created out of fear of the "other" in an effort to justify imperialism.   Before the ~18th century C.E., the modern emphasis on "race" in the way you use the term did not basically exist.    Roll Eyes

Utter, arrant bollocks.



Each to their own, Soren.  I know you're on shaky ground when you resort to dismissing out of hand a reasoned argument...   Roll Eyes

The Historical Origins and Development of Racism

Racism: A History

BBC Documentary: The History of Racism



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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #212 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:25am
 
Soren wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 11:39pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 9:45pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 5:41pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 2:52pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 5:49pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 3:47pm:
Genetically we're all the same.    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin



You are  not.


We all share essentially the same genes.  It is the way they are combined which makes our individual differences.  Stop focusing on, what did Brian call them? "Superficial physical differences".    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Culture is important. And genetic differences are also important.

http://www.thelovelyplanet.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/By-bentborn_Denmark.jp...

http://alisina.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/muslim-woman.jpg


Neither culture are important, unless you're a Xenophobe or a Racist, Soren.




So perceiving cultural difference is racist?? "Cultural differences must be unnoticed lest you want to be labelled a racist by Brain".

Are you really that confused?   Telling the difference between the Chinese and the Japanese is racist? Chinese and   French? Russians and Malaysians? All racist constructs, no difference at all.


No, I missed two words out from my original statement.  I have now corrected that mistake.  I suggest you go back and reread it, Soren before commenting again.  It now makes much better sense.
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #213 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:47am
 
Soren wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 11:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 9:45pm:
"Race" is non-existent.  It is a social construct created out of fear of the "other" in an effort to justify imperialism.   Before the ~18th century C.E., the modern emphasis on "race" in the way you use the term did not basically exist.    Roll Eyes

Utter, arrant bollocks.



Indeed, Brian should educate himself and read commentaries on the Gallic wars by julius Caesar. 

And Brian needs to expand on his afraid of other to justify imperialism.  Sounds like a half formed thought to me, Victorians were hardly afraid of the people from whom they were planting a flag.  It was more to stop competition from nations they were afraid of, Russia, Germany and France for example.  A good education would involve reading Mahan and the theory of mercantilism.

Should be a piece of piss for a bloke who likes to pretend he is an academic on the internets.   Grin Grin

Cept when he isn't.  Cool
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Reply #214 - Jul 28th, 2014 at 12:34pm
 
Do you enjoy talking to yourself DL?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Multiculturalism is an anti-Western ideology
Reply #215 - Jul 29th, 2014 at 12:45pm
 
Datalife wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 10:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 9:45pm:
Neither culture are important, unless you're a Xenophobe or a Racist, Soren.



Ha, I notice Brian over on another thread indicating that someone should be banned for sock puppetry.  Nothing Brian loves more than a good censoring.

What would be the odds of Brian and Hotbreath, despite claiming to be brothers not only sharing an identical philosophy and phrases but even spelling idiocies, like random no reason capitilisation of xenophobia?

Hmmmmmmmm?

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 12:31am:
I think you'll find its much more about resource and in particular energy security rather than anything to do with a desire for living room.  However, I'm sure you won't allow reality to intrude on your Xenophobia.   Roll Eyes



|dev|null wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:58am:
Thanks for demonstrating my point for me.  You don't KNOW if they are "illegal immigrants" or not.  You don't KNOW if they are "economic refugees".  You ignore the Asylum Seekers who arrive by plane.  You ignore the real illegal immigrants who exist in their tens of thousands.   Instead you let your Xenophobia run your thinking for you.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin


Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6th, 2014 at 12:55am:
We are signatories yet we appear to be doing the same things.  Our membership of the Convention used to at one time mean something and made us a world leader on Human Rights.  Xenophobia seems to have destroyed that.  Think about it the next time you want to criticise another nation for it's Human Rights record.   Roll Eyes   


|dev|null wrote on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 11:29am:
That message like everything else the Mad Monk claims must be examined closely and when you do, you find it is a lie.  Boats are coming, they're just being turned back or the refugees are being refouled to the regimes they are fleeing.  Australia is breaking the treaties it is signatory to.  And you're proud of your Xenophobia!  Disgusting!   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Yeah. And both names disappeared off the forum for 6 months only to come back at exactly the same time. Hot Ross is a complete BS artist and is simply too chicken shlt to defend his own arguments. Hence the need for a "brother" to support everything he says.
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Reply #216 - Jul 29th, 2014 at 1:13pm
 
Quantum wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 12:45pm:
Yeah. And both names disappeared off the forum for 6 months only to come back at exactly the same time. Hot Ross is a complete BS artist and is simply too chicken shlt to defend his own arguments. Hence the need for a "brother" to support everything he says.


Sure of that?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #217 - Jul 29th, 2014 at 2:10pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 1:13pm:
Quantum wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 12:45pm:
Yeah. And both names disappeared off the forum for 6 months only to come back at exactly the same time. Hot Ross is a complete BS artist and is simply too chicken shlt to defend his own arguments. Hence the need for a "brother" to support everything he says.


Sure of that?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


100%. Around Christmas time both names go missing. Then 6 months latter both names come back defending each others posts. 

You are a gutless smacking wonder who can't defend your own BS arguments.
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Reply #218 - Jul 29th, 2014 at 4:46pm
 
Quantum wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 2:10pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 1:13pm:
Quantum wrote on Jul 29th, 2014 at 12:45pm:
Yeah. And both names disappeared off the forum for 6 months only to come back at exactly the same time. Hot Ross is a complete BS artist and is simply too chicken shlt to defend his own arguments. Hence the need for a "brother" to support everything he says.


Sure of that?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


100%. Around Christmas time both names go missing. Then 6 months latter both names come back defending each others posts. 

You are a gutless smacking wonder who can't defend your own BS arguments.

Or are you just paranoid?  Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

Of course, that doesn't mean they aren't out to get you but hey, it explains a lot about your comments!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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Reply #220 - Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:34am
 
Strawman alert!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy

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Weston has been blogging since 2007 for the "counter-jihadist" anti-islamic website Gates of Vienna.[9] The mass-murderer Anders Behring Breivik cited the website and Weston's articles claiming that there is a "civil war" brewing in Europe with Islam. When questioned on 25 April 2012, Weston admitted that the articles may well have inspired Breivik before adding "we cannot say nothing simply because there might be some lone psychopath somewhere in Europe."[10]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Weston_%28politician%29#Political_thought_and_activities]

So, we have a loony extreme-right neo-fascist, Paul Weston, who admits he may have inspired an extreme-right neo-fascist Terrorist with his writings, complaining that he's called a racist according to a definition which only he uses?  He has been explicitly linked with the English Defence League, an extreme-far-right Islamophobic group which has mounted violent demonstrations in the UK against Islamic immigration.

And Soren you attempt to use this fellow to further your viewpoint?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #221 - Aug 12th, 2014 at 12:08pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:34am:
Strawman alert!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy

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Weston has been blogging since 2007 for the "counter-jihadist" anti-islamic website Gates of Vienna.[9] The mass-murderer Anders Behring Breivik cited the website and Weston's articles claiming that there is a "civil war" brewing in Europe with Islam. When questioned on 25 April 2012, Weston admitted that the articles may well have inspired Breivik before adding "we cannot say nothing simply because there might be some lone psychopath somewhere in Europe."[10]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Weston_%28politician%29#Political_thought_and_activities]

So, we have a loony extreme-right neo-fascist, Paul Weston, who admits he may have inspired an extreme-right neo-fascist Terrorist with his writings, complaining that he's called a racist according to a definition which only he uses?  He has been explicitly linked with the English Defence League, an extreme-far-right Islamophobic group which has mounted violent demonstrations in the UK against Islamic immigration.

And Soren you attempt to use this fellow to further your viewpoint?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


The video simply switches whites for blacks and then asks if you would have a problem. You avoiding the issue only proves his point. You cry that the aboriginals were made a minority in their own land, and then cheer as whites are made a minority in their own country. You advocate for aboriginals to be able to protect their own culture and be permitted to segregate themselves from the rest of society, yet if whites try the same thing they a racist nazi hate filled bigoted fascist and they have no right to. You are the perfect example of an inconsistent left wing loon who preaches equality through sexism, racism, and bigotry because you are too head fuked to see what a world of contradictions your pathetic perverted world view is. In other words, a typical greens voter.
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Reply #222 - Aug 12th, 2014 at 1:01pm
 
Australian PM Caves in to Jewish Lobby on Free Speech Laws by Brenton Sanderson


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In the face of a coordinated and sustained campaign initiated and led by Jewish activists, the Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has abandoned his 2013 election promise to water down or remove Section 18C of Australia’s Racial Discrimination Act which makes it unlawful to act in a manner likely to “offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate” someone on the basis of race. Abbott said he had made a “leadership decision” to walk away from his pledge despite having promised to remove this outrageous restriction on the free speech after the law was used successfully against conservative columnist Andrew Bolt in 2011.

It is a measure of the power wielded by organized Jewry in Australia that the Prime Minister would rather damage his political credibility by breaking a clear election promise than suffer the consequences of defying the single most powerful group in Australian society. Abbott, who made the announcement while outlining an extension of anti-terrorism laws, attempted to justify his broken promise by claiming “I don’t want to do anything that puts our national unity at risk at this time and so those proposals are now off the table.” Abbott’s apparent desire to not further alienate Australia’s problematic Islamic community by repealing Section 18C (at a time when the government is set to strengthen laws against terrorism) is an obvious political smokescreen. 

The rise of Islamic anti-Semitism in the West reveals a paradoxical element of the overwhelming Jewish support for multiculturalism
; an element which resulted in the emergence and growth of neoconservatism. Kevin MacDonald notes that: “Although multiculturalist ideology was invented by Jewish intellectuals to rationalize the continuation of separatism and minority-group ethnocentrism in a modern Western state, several of the recent instantiations of multiculturalism may eventually produce a monster with negative consequences for Judaism.”  Shocked

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Reply #223 - Aug 12th, 2014 at 2:31pm
 
creates a paradox for the jew hating left doesn't it? To hate jews is to hate the very authors of multiculturalism. Myself, I hate jews and multiculturalism.
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Reply #224 - Aug 12th, 2014 at 3:02pm
 
Quantum wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 12:08pm:
|dev|null wrote on Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:34am:
Strawman alert!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy

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Weston has been blogging since 2007 for the "counter-jihadist" anti-islamic website Gates of Vienna.[9] The mass-murderer Anders Behring Breivik cited the website and Weston's articles claiming that there is a "civil war" brewing in Europe with Islam. When questioned on 25 April 2012, Weston admitted that the articles may well have inspired Breivik before adding "we cannot say nothing simply because there might be some lone psychopath somewhere in Europe."[10]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Weston_%28politician%29#Political_thought_and_activities]

So, we have a loony extreme-right neo-fascist, Paul Weston, who admits he may have inspired an extreme-right neo-fascist Terrorist with his writings, complaining that he's called a racist according to a definition which only he uses?  He has been explicitly linked with the English Defence League, an extreme-far-right Islamophobic group which has mounted violent demonstrations in the UK against Islamic immigration.

And Soren you attempt to use this fellow to further your viewpoint?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


The video simply switches whites for blacks and then asks if you would have a problem. You avoiding the issue only proves his point. You cry that the aboriginals were made a minority in their own land, and then cheer as whites are made a minority in their own country. You advocate for aboriginals to be able to protect their own culture and be permitted to segregate themselves from the rest of society, yet if whites try the same thing they a racist nazi hate filled bigoted fascist and they have no right to. You are the perfect example of an inconsistent left wing loon who preaches equality through sexism, racism, and bigotry because you are too head fuked to see what a world of contradictions your pathetic perverted world view is. In other words, a typical greens voter.


I cheer no one being made a minority in any land and being oppressed.  If black people were to become a majority that oppressed white people I'd be decrying what they are doing just as much as I do what white people do to black people.   You seem to think it is a racial thing when in reality it's a principle thing.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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