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Reply #135 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:53pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:06pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

Do people understand that economic refugees are still refugees and that refugees are people who legitimately need assistance ?

Um, no.

If they are brown, they're queue-jumping welfare cheats.

This is "general knowledge".

I'm happy you finally got ur head out of the sand Wink

Yep, Grendel showed me where I should have put it.

http://www.whattofix.com/images/CranialRectalEntanglement.jpg

He's the suppository of all knowledge, you know.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S0iXdwgPDLI/AAAAAAAAFdw/CYJYbsVycq4/s400/h...

Ah back to your normal position I see Peccerhead...

Yes, since following your lead I've (ironically) seen the light.

All asylum seekers are queue-jumping welfare cheats who would slit your mother's throat given half the chance.

Who knew that so much wisdom could be extracted from one's arse? Undecided

Oh dear back to the basic English lessons I see...

It's not "following" my lead dear boy...
It's "taking" my advice...
All I said was take your head and shove it...
Your choice was mildly surprising to say the least.
But it did make a good photo... Grin

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #136 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:59pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:53pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:24pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:06pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

Do people understand that economic refugees are still refugees and that refugees are people who legitimately need assistance ?

Um, no.

If they are brown, they're queue-jumping welfare cheats.

This is "general knowledge".

I'm happy you finally got ur head out of the sand Wink

Yep, Grendel showed me where I should have put it.

http://www.whattofix.com/images/CranialRectalEntanglement.jpg

He's the suppository of all knowledge, you know.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S0iXdwgPDLI/AAAAAAAAFdw/CYJYbsVycq4/s400/h...

Ah back to your normal position I see Peccerhead...

Yes, since following your lead I've (ironically) seen the light.

All asylum seekers are queue-jumping welfare cheats who would slit your mother's throat given half the chance.

Who knew that so much wisdom could be extracted from one's arse? Undecided

Oh dear back to the basic English lessons I see...

It's not "following" my lead dear boy...
It's "taking" my advice...

That's right, I shoved my head up your arse and now I've seen the light.

Now I am the suppository of all wisdom.

Tank you sensei.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Economic Refugees? Reply #137 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:18pm You are confused aren't you... get someone to explain your photo to you... next time you are up for air..
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 140100 Gender:	Re: Economic Refugees? Reply #138 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:20pm Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:18pm: You are confused aren't you... get someone to explain your photo to you... next time you are up for air.. The photo is you, with your head up your arse. I know that. However, now my head is up there. I've seen the light! Thank you, sensei.
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Economic Refugees? Reply #139 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:21pm Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:04pm: Do people understand that economic refugees are still refugees and that refugees are people who legitimately need assistance ? No, that is not the definition of a refugee. Fleeing poor wages is not grounds to be considered a refugee.
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Reply #140 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:30pm

ian wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:21pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

Do people understand that economic refugees are still refugees and that refugees are people who legitimately need assistance ?

No, that is not the definition of a refugee. Fleeing poor wages is not grounds to be considered a refugee.

Correct.

Otherwise we'd have half of the USA coming here.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Economic Refugees? Reply #141 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:44pm Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:18pm: You are confused aren't you... get someone to explain your photo to you... next time you are up for air.. yup, yup, yup.... This working out for you is it Peccerhead?
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Reply #142 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 1:38pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

How so?

As I said, head in the sand.

You can't substantiate your claim?

Whywhyhuh - I can see why Greg makes a meal of you - such a valid response to a legitimate question..

How so?

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Reply #143 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 4:35pm

ian wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:21pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

Do people understand that economic refugees are still refugees and that refugees are people who legitimately need assistance ?

No, that is not the definition of a refugee. Fleeing poor wages is not grounds to be considered a refugee.

Economic refugee are not fleeing poor wages - they are fleeing economic situations which will lead to them dying of starvation or sickness. People fleeing a failed economy - one which fails to support life. In my view this is different to an economic migrant who is trying to improve their life style.

The UNHCR rules and definitions agrees with your view meaning that we have no legal obligation but I do not think it is as simple as that.

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Reply #144 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 4:38pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:06pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

Do people understand that economic refugees are still refugees and that refugees are people who legitimately need assistance ?

Um, no.

If they are brown, they're queue-jumping welfare cheats.

This is "general knowledge".

Yet factual statistics indicate around 80% end up welfare recipients. That is general knowledge if you care to look up the government statistics. Not that you would gweg.

History shows that their children end up leading our education results for several decades and end up leading the nation into the future.

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Reply #145 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 6:03pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 1:38pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

How so?

As I said, head in the sand.

You can't substantiate your claim?

Whywhyhuh - I can see why Greg makes a meal of you - such a valid response to a legitimate question..

How so?

I can't see Gregg making a meal of anything or anyone, except reality.

Which is why I ignore him most of the time. Roll Eyes

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Reply #146 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 6:04pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 4:35pm:

ian wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:21pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

Do people understand that economic refugees are still refugees and that refugees are people who legitimately need assistance ?

No, that is not the definition of a refugee. Fleeing poor wages is not grounds to be considered a refugee.

Economic refugee are not fleeing poor wages - they are fleeing economic situations which will lead to them dying of starvation or sickness. People fleeing a failed economy - one which fails to support life. In my view this is different to an economic migrant who is trying to improve their life style.

The UNHCR rules and definitions agrees with your view meaning that we have no legal obligation but I do not think it is as simple as that.

Really.... how little you know. Cheesy

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Reply #147 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 6:05pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 6:03pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 3:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 1:38pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

How so?

As I said, head in the sand.

You can't substantiate your claim?

Whywhyhuh - I can see why Greg makes a meal of you - such a valid response to a legitimate question..

How so?

I can't see Gregg making a meal of anything or anyone, except reality.

Which is why I ignore him most of the time. Roll Eyes

You respond to every single post I make.

Bar none.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Economic Refugees? Reply #148 - Jul 12^th, 2014 at 6:06pm Once again for the Uber Dummies and ignorant. Warning to all Greens, Luvvies and Progs.... you'll have to turn denial up to full.
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