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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #270 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

hermoine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Ahhh 18 pages and ignorance from our righty best fwends continues I see.

Illegal? Nope
Country shopping? Nope

Argue using facts not stupidity.

Coming here? Nope.

So you're ok with us breaking our obligations under a convention we are a signatory to?

France does.

Compelling "argument".

Roll Eyes

Precedence is compelling.
Permanent member of the Security Council too.

Also shows nobody really cares - who has pulled France up on it?

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sir prince duke alevine

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #271 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:58pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

hermoine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Ahhh 18 pages and ignorance from our righty best fwends continues I see.

Illegal? Nope
Country shopping? Nope

Argue using facts not stupidity.

Coming here? Nope.

So you're ok with us breaking our obligations under a convention we are a signatory to?

France does.

Compelling "argument".

Roll Eyes

Precedence is compelling.
Permanent member of the Security Council too.

Also shows nobody really cares - who has pulled France up on it?

If a person robs a bank and gets away with it that means Andrei would also rob a bank.

Precedence is compelling.

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aquascoot

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #272 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Ahhh 18 pages and ignorance from our righty best fwends continues I see.

Illegal? Nope
Country shopping? Nope

Argue using facts not stupidity.

Some of it is stupidity, however, a lot of it is just irrational bigotry and fear.

It's sad to see our country regress this way.

I blame Abbott.

most of it is common sense.

if people want to help the poor of other nations, then this is good, go dig a well, take over our excess books and farming equipment.
make all grade 12 kids do 6 weeks helping out in botswana.
we can be compassionate and use common sense.
common sense says that no country on earth ever has , or ever will operate an open border policy.

so lets get on with having the government focus on the movers and shakers in the economy so we can grow rich and help our fellow man in africa or wherever.
lets not have this nonsense from the do-gooders who seek only to burden the movers and shakers with more dead weight to carry.

we are pretty tired from carrying the dead weight of the do gooders already. all those cashing in on the "assylum seeker industry" are no different from those cashing in on the aboriginal industry.

and again , who helps the aborigine and who helps the kid in africa get a vaccine.

the good old mover and shaker capatilist. twiggy forrest and bill gates do more for these people than Julian burnside and david marr and SHY ever will.

so how about the hand wringers and do-gooders please get out of the way.

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Soren

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #273 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:53am:

Soren wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 10:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:32pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:06pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

Do people understand that economic refugees are still refugees and that refugees are people who legitimately need assistance ?

Um, no.

If they are brown, they're queue-jumping welfare cheats.

This is "general knowledge".

Yet factual statistics indicate around 80% end up welfare recipients.

And?

I don't see why we have to import people to be unemployed/unemployable here.

Do you?

"welfare recipient" doesn't necessarily mean unemployed.

You do realise that, don't you?

Thank you Five Fire Doors. Very useful.

I don't see why we have to import people to be "welfare recipients" here.

Do you?

No.

However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal.

Do you?

You just don't see any problems with it, five doors. That's saying it's no probs.

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Soren

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #274 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

hermoine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Ahhh 18 pages and ignorance from our righty best fwends continues I see.

Illegal? Nope
Country shopping? Nope

Argue using facts not stupidity.

Coming here? Nope.

So you're ok with us breaking our obligations under a convention we are a signatory to?

France does.

Compelling "argument".

Roll Eyes

You have never presented an argument so who are you to say anything?

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greggerypeccary

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #275 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:31pm

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:53am:

Soren wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 10:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:32pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:06pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

Do people understand that economic refugees are still refugees and that refugees are people who legitimately need assistance ?

Um, no.

If they are brown, they're queue-jumping welfare cheats.

This is "general knowledge".

Yet factual statistics indicate around 80% end up welfare recipients.

And?

I don't see why we have to import people to be unemployed/unemployable here.

Do you?

"welfare recipient" doesn't necessarily mean unemployed.

You do realise that, don't you?

Thank you Five Fire Doors. Very useful.

I don't see why we have to import people to be "welfare recipients" here.

Do you?

No.

However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal.

Do you?

You just don't see any problems with it, five doors. That's saying it's no probs.

I'll type it slowly this time, so (even) you can keep up.

"No. However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal."

Now, have a close look and tell me where the word "problems" appears. Did you find it yet? No? Hmmm, why do you think that might be? Have a good hard think, Soren, then get back to us. OK? There's a good lad Wink

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greggerypeccary

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #276 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:35pm

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

hermoine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Ahhh 18 pages and ignorance from our righty best fwends continues I see.

Illegal? Nope
Country shopping? Nope

Argue using facts not stupidity.

Coming here? Nope.

So you're ok with us breaking our obligations under a convention we are a signatory to?

France does.

Compelling "argument".

Roll Eyes

You have never presented an argument so who are you to say anything?

I'm the person assigned the task of exposing each and every one of your posts as childish drivel, based on either bigotry, ignorance, racism, irrational fear, homophobia, or sheer stupidity.

So far ... 100% success rate.

How has your day been, old boy?

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Soren

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #277 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

I'll type it slowly this time, so (even) you can keep up.

"No. However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal."

Now, have a close look and tell me where the word "problems" appears. Did you find it yet? No? Hmmm, why do you think that might be? Have a good hard think, Soren, then get back to us. OK? There's a good lad Wink

80 % of fake refugees ending up on welfare is no probs for you. All you can say to it is "And?"

No matter how slowly you type it, that is just stupid and cynical.

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sir prince duke alevine

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #278 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:10pm

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

I'll type it slowly this time, so (even) you can keep up.

"No. However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal."

Now, have a close look and tell me where the word "problems" appears. Did you find it yet? No? Hmmm, why do you think that might be? Have a good hard think, Soren, then get back to us. OK? There's a good lad Wink

80 % of fake refugees ending up on welfare is no probs for you. All you can say to it is "And?"

No matter how slowly you type it, that is just stupid and cynical.

You gotta love our right wing best fwends makin up statistics. You should've gone for 90%, it sounds better.

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sir prince duke alevine

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #279 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:11pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Ahhh 18 pages and ignorance from our righty best fwends continues I see.

Illegal? Nope
Country shopping? Nope

Argue using facts not stupidity.

Some of it is stupidity, however, a lot of it is just irrational bigotry and fear.

It's sad to see our country regress this way.

I blame Abbott.

most of it is common sense.

if people want to help the poor of other nations, then this is good, go dig a well, take over our excess books and farming equipment.
make all grade 12 kids do 6 weeks helping out in botswana.
we can be compassionate and use common sense.
common sense says that no country on earth ever has , or ever will operate an open border policy.

so lets get on with having the government focus on the movers and shakers in the economy so we can grow rich and help our fellow man in africa or wherever.
lets not have this nonsense from the do-gooders who seek only to burden the movers and shakers with more dead weight to carry.

we are pretty tired from carrying the dead weight of the do gooders already. all those cashing in on the "assylum seeker industry" are no different from those cashing in on the aboriginal industry.

and again , who helps the aborigine and who helps the kid in africa get a vaccine.

the good old mover and shaker capatilist. twiggy forrest and bill gates do more for these people than Julian burnside and david marr and SHY ever will.

so how about the hand wringers and do-gooders please get out of the way.

Hmm, you do understand refugee policy is not the same as foreign aid, right?

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Soren

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #280 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:35pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

hermoine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Ahhh 18 pages and ignorance from our righty best fwends continues I see.

Illegal? Nope
Country shopping? Nope

Argue using facts not stupidity.

Coming here? Nope.

So you're ok with us breaking our obligations under a convention we are a signatory to?

France does.

Compelling "argument".

Roll Eyes

You have never presented an argument so who are you to say anything?

I'm the person assigned the task of exposing each and every one of your posts as childish drivel, based on either bigotry, ignorance, racism, irrational fear, homophobia, or sheer stupidity.

So far ... 100% success rate.

How has your day been, old boy?

You are dreaming. You could not present a coherent argument to save tour sorry little gourmandising, w@nking little life.

Your cynical fapping is never an argument. It's just cynical fapping.

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greggerypeccary

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #281 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:15pm

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:35pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

hermoine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Ahhh 18 pages and ignorance from our righty best fwends continues I see.

Illegal? Nope
Country shopping? Nope

Argue using facts not stupidity.

Coming here? Nope.

So you're ok with us breaking our obligations under a convention we are a signatory to?

France does.

Compelling "argument".

Roll Eyes

You have never presented an argument so who are you to say anything?

I'm the person assigned the task of exposing each and every one of your posts as childish drivel, based on either bigotry, ignorance, racism, irrational fear, homophobia, or sheer stupidity.

So far ... 100% success rate.

How has your day been, old boy?

You are dreaming. You could not present a coherent argument to save tour sorry little gourmandising, w@nking little life.

Your cynical fapping is never an argument. It's just cynical fapping.

100% success rate still stands.

This has been a good day.

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greggerypeccary

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #282 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:19pm

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

I'll type it slowly this time, so (even) you can keep up.

"No. However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal."

Now, have a close look and tell me where the word "problems" appears. Did you find it yet? No? Hmmm, why do you think that might be? Have a good hard think, Soren, then get back to us. OK? There's a good lad Wink

80 % of fake refugees ending up on welfare is no probs for you.

Fake refugees don't get welfare, old boy: they're sent home.

100% success rate still stands.

I love days like this.

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #283 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:19pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

I'll type it slowly this time, so (even) you can keep up.

"No. However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal."

Now, have a close look and tell me where the word "problems" appears. Did you find it yet? No? Hmmm, why do you think that might be? Have a good hard think, Soren, then get back to us. OK? There's a good lad Wink

80 % of fake refugees ending up on welfare is no probs for you.

Fake refugees don't get welfare, old boy: they're sent home.

Yes, sure they are Roll Eyes

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greggerypeccary

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #284 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:26pm

ian wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:19pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

I'll type it slowly this time, so (even) you can keep up.

"No. However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal."

Now, have a close look and tell me where the word "problems" appears. Did you find it yet? No? Hmmm, why do you think that might be? Have a good hard think, Soren, then get back to us. OK? There's a good lad Wink

80 % of fake refugees ending up on welfare is no probs for you.

Fake refugees don't get welfare, old boy: they're sent home.

Yes, sure they are Roll Eyes

That's correct.

Not all genuine asylum seekers are deemed to be genuine refugees.

The ones who lie, are sent home.

They certainly don't receive welfare payments.

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