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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #285 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:19pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

I'll type it slowly this time, so (even) you can keep up.

"No. However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal."

Now, have a close look and tell me where the word "problems" appears. Did you find it yet? No? Hmmm, why do you think that might be? Have a good hard think, Soren, then get back to us. OK? There's a good lad Wink

80 % of fake refugees ending up on welfare is no probs for you.

Fake refugees don't get welfare, old boy: they're sent home.

100% success rate still stands.

I love days like this.

No, you don't.

Your response to fake refugees on welfare was 'and?'

There are a 50 thousand fake refugees in Australia who arrived under Labor. They are not sent home, they are given PR and they are on welfare.

Your response: "and?'

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greggerypeccary

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Reply #286 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:44pm

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:19pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

I'll type it slowly this time, so (even) you can keep up.

"No. However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal."

Now, have a close look and tell me where the word "problems" appears. Did you find it yet? No? Hmmm, why do you think that might be? Have a good hard think, Soren, then get back to us. OK? There's a good lad Wink

80 % of fake refugees ending up on welfare is no probs for you.

Fake refugees don't get welfare, old boy: they're sent home.

100% success rate still stands.

I love days like this.

No, you don't.

Your response to fake refugees on welfare was 'and?'

There are a 50 thousand fake refugees in Australia who arrived under Labor. They are not sent home, they are given PR and they are on welfare.

Incorrect.

Fake refugees are not given welfare. You're just telling big fat lies, Soren.

The majority of boat people, however, turn out to be genuine refugees. Indisputable fact.

My 100% success rate still stands.

What a splendid day this has been.

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sir prince duke alevine

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Reply #287 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:00pm

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:19pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

I'll type it slowly this time, so (even) you can keep up.

"No. However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal."

Now, have a close look and tell me where the word "problems" appears. Did you find it yet? No? Hmmm, why do you think that might be? Have a good hard think, Soren, then get back to us. OK? There's a good lad Wink

80 % of fake refugees ending up on welfare is no probs for you.

Fake refugees don't get welfare, old boy: they're sent home.

100% success rate still stands.

I love days like this.

No, you don't.

Your response to fake refugees on welfare was 'and?'

There are a 50 thousand fake refugees in Australia who arrived under Labor. They are not sent home, they are given PR and they are on welfare.

Your response: "and?'

oooOooh more lovely fake stats

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Re: Economic Refugees?
Reply #288 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

ian wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:19pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

I'll type it slowly this time, so (even) you can keep up.

"No. However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal."

Now, have a close look and tell me where the word "problems" appears. Did you find it yet? No? Hmmm, why do you think that might be? Have a good hard think, Soren, then get back to us. OK? There's a good lad Wink

80 % of fake refugees ending up on welfare is no probs for you.

Fake refugees don't get welfare, old boy: they're sent home.

Yes, sure they are Roll Eyes

That's correct.

Not all genuine asylum seekers are deemed to be genuine refugees.

The ones who lie, are sent home.

They certainly don't receive welfare payments.

We all know there are many , many amongst the genuine ones who are scamming. Dont be naive.

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greggerypeccary

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Reply #289 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:03pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:00pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:19pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

I'll type it slowly this time, so (even) you can keep up.

"No. However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal."

Now, have a close look and tell me where the word "problems" appears. Did you find it yet? No? Hmmm, why do you think that might be? Have a good hard think, Soren, then get back to us. OK? There's a good lad Wink

80 % of fake refugees ending up on welfare is no probs for you.

Fake refugees don't get welfare, old boy: they're sent home.

100% success rate still stands.

I love days like this.

No, you don't.

Your response to fake refugees on welfare was 'and?'

There are a 50 thousand fake refugees in Australia who arrived under Labor. They are not sent home, they are given PR and they are on welfare.

Your response: "and?'

oooOooh more lovely fake stats

Soren excels at fake stats.

Apart from bigotry, lies, irrational fear, racism, homophobia, Islamophobia, and sexism, Soren's number one claim to fame is fake stats.

9 out of 10 people agree Grin

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greggerypeccary

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Reply #290 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:05pm

ian wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

ian wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:19pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:31pm:

I'll type it slowly this time, so (even) you can keep up.

"No. However, I don't see anyone advocating that proposal."

Now, have a close look and tell me where the word "problems" appears. Did you find it yet? No? Hmmm, why do you think that might be? Have a good hard think, Soren, then get back to us. OK? There's a good lad Wink

80 % of fake refugees ending up on welfare is no probs for you.

Fake refugees don't get welfare, old boy: they're sent home.

Yes, sure they are Roll Eyes

That's correct.

Not all genuine asylum seekers are deemed to be genuine refugees.

The ones who lie, are sent home.

They certainly don't receive welfare payments.

We all know there are many , many amongst the genuine ones who are scamming.

Can you substantiate that claim?

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35329 Gender:	Re: Economic Refugees? Reply #291 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:00am 75 % on welfare after 5 years. amongst family reunion members it goes up to 80 %. factual enough for you gweggy
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Economic Refugees? Reply #292 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53am aquascoot wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:00am: 75 % on welfare after 5 years. amongst family reunion members it goes up to 80 %. factual enough for you gweggy that makes them not genuine?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 140099 Gender:	Re: Economic Refugees? Reply #293 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:59am aquascoot wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:00am: 75 % on welfare after 5 years. amongst family reunion members it goes up to 80 %. factual enough for you gweggy You seem to be arguing with yourself. Nobody is disputing that claim.
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Reply #294 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:06am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:00am:

75 % on welfare after 5 years.

amongst family reunion members it goes up to 80 %.

factual enough for you gweggy

that makes them not genuine?

The Australian battler is already getting up in the dark and commuting for an hour and a half , working all day, returning home in the dark and going to bed knackered.
The Australian battler has enough of a burden to carry.
Why add rocks to his backpack.
It is cruel and unusual punishment to expect him to carry the burden of housing, clothing and feeding these non contributors.
make the wrong thing hard and the right thing easy.
the wrong thing is coming illegally to bludge. make it super hard (morrison has done this).
The right thing is coming with resources and contributing.
Hawke and Howard recognised this with the importation of hard working Asians with $1000,000 in the bank.
make it easy for these high rollers, lay out the welcome mat.

If there is a boat leaving china with 150 chinese engineers, business men and entreprenuers and they each have a million US in their hand luggage, Morrsion should organise a naval escort direct to darling harbour.
Be patriotic and lets get the country going again.

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Reply #295 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:08am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:06am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:00am:

75 % on welfare after 5 years.

amongst family reunion members it goes up to 80 %.

factual enough for you gweggy

that makes them not genuine?

The Australian battler is already getting up in the dark and commuting for an hour and a half , working all day, returning home in the dark and going to bed knackered.
The Australian battler has enough of a burden to carry.
Why add rocks to his backpack.
It is cruel and unusual punishment to expect him to carry the burden of housing, clothing and feeding these non contributors.
make the wrong thing hard and the right thing easy.
the wrong thing is coming illegally to bludge. make it super hard (morrison has done this).
The right thing is coming with resources and contributing.
Hawke and Howard recognised this with the importation of hard working Asians with $1000,000 in the bank.
make it easy for these high rollers, lay out the welcome mat.

If there is a boat leaving china with 150 chinese engineers, business men and entreprenuers and they each have a million US in their hand luggage, Morrsion should organise a naval escort direct to darling harbour.
Be patriotic and lets get the country going again.

who's coming here illegally? You would think after countless threads, you'd finally get it through your head. Sad

So sad.

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Reply #296 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:17am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:08am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:06am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:00am:

75 % on welfare after 5 years.

amongst family reunion members it goes up to 80 %.

factual enough for you gweggy

that makes them not genuine?

The Australian battler is already getting up in the dark and commuting for an hour and a half , working all day, returning home in the dark and going to bed knackered.
The Australian battler has enough of a burden to carry.
Why add rocks to his backpack.
It is cruel and unusual punishment to expect him to carry the burden of housing, clothing and feeding these non contributors.
make the wrong thing hard and the right thing easy.
the wrong thing is coming illegally to bludge. make it super hard (morrison has done this).
The right thing is coming with resources and contributing.
Hawke and Howard recognised this with the importation of hard working Asians with $1000,000 in the bank.
make it easy for these high rollers, lay out the welcome mat.

If there is a boat leaving china with 150 chinese engineers, business men and entreprenuers and they each have a million US in their hand luggage, Morrsion should organise a naval escort direct to darling harbour.
Be patriotic and lets get the country going again.

who's coming here illegally? You would think after countless threads, you'd finally get it through your head. Sad

So sad.

That's the whole problem: they don't think.

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Reply #297 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:18am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:08am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:06am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:00am:

75 % on welfare after 5 years.

amongst family reunion members it goes up to 80 %.

factual enough for you gweggy

that makes them not genuine?

The Australian battler is already getting up in the dark and commuting for an hour and a half , working all day, returning home in the dark and going to bed knackered.
The Australian battler has enough of a burden to carry.
Why add rocks to his backpack.
It is cruel and unusual punishment to expect him to carry the burden of housing, clothing and feeding these non contributors.
make the wrong thing hard and the right thing easy.
the wrong thing is coming illegally to bludge. make it super hard (morrison has done this).
The right thing is coming with resources and contributing.
Hawke and Howard recognised this with the importation of hard working Asians with $1000,000 in the bank.
make it easy for these high rollers, lay out the welcome mat.

If there is a boat leaving china with 150 chinese engineers, business men and entreprenuers and they each have a million US in their hand luggage, Morrsion should organise a naval escort direct to darling harbour.
Be patriotic and lets get the country going again.

who's coming here illegally? You would think after countless threads, you'd finally get it through your head. Sad

So sad.

LOL, what is sad is that pedants like you and greg don't have any compassion for the working poor.
Thankfully though, we live in a democracy and they have spoken about the boats issue.
Both sides of politics have to listen to the working poor and suburban battler when he says "enough is enough"
must be "so sad " for you that your votes don't count for more then the suburban battler but you and greg will just have to suck it up sweetheart.
try and convince the suburban battler they aren't illegal Cheesy

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Reply #298 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 9:29am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:18am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:08am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:06am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:00am:

75 % on welfare after 5 years.

amongst family reunion members it goes up to 80 %.

factual enough for you gweggy

that makes them not genuine?

The Australian battler is already getting up in the dark and commuting for an hour and a half , working all day, returning home in the dark and going to bed knackered.
The Australian battler has enough of a burden to carry.
Why add rocks to his backpack.
It is cruel and unusual punishment to expect him to carry the burden of housing, clothing and feeding these non contributors.
make the wrong thing hard and the right thing easy.
the wrong thing is coming illegally to bludge. make it super hard (morrison has done this).
The right thing is coming with resources and contributing.
Hawke and Howard recognised this with the importation of hard working Asians with $1000,000 in the bank.
make it easy for these high rollers, lay out the welcome mat.

If there is a boat leaving china with 150 chinese engineers, business men and entreprenuers and they each have a million US in their hand luggage, Morrsion should organise a naval escort direct to darling harbour.
Be patriotic and lets get the country going again.

who's coming here illegally? You would think after countless threads, you'd finally get it through your head. Sad

So sad.

LOL, what is sad is that pedants like you and greg don't have any compassion for the working poor.
Thankfully though, we live in a democracy and they have spoken about the boats issue.
Both sides of politics have to listen to the working poor and suburban battler when he says "enough is enough"
must be "so sad " for you that your votes don't count for more then the suburban battler but you and greg will just have to suck it up sweetheart.
try and convince the suburban battler they aren't illegal Cheesy

? I don't need to convince anyone, because it's the law that they aren't illegal. If you refuse to believe it then obviously you're not very smart given you choose to believe your own, incorrect, version of the law.

You thinking that asylum seekers are illegal is the exact same as you believing the world is flat; you refuse to believe 2 undeniable facts. Although it honestly wouldn't surprise me if you came out and said, "the aussie suburban battler believes the world is flat, so it's flat!" Grin

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Reply #299 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 9:49am

The legality or otherwise is of zero consequence to myself and the 3 million people who live in suburban Sydney and suburban Melbourne and suburban Brisbane.

if you and Greg and Julian Burnside get excited about it, you obviously have your priorities all wrong.

Julain maybe not so much, because his income to pay for his yacht and his merc depends on issues like this , but why Australian citizens feel more compassion for people they've never met , then for battlers doing it tough in suburbia is beyond me.

My priority is to elevate concern for this , largely silent majority.
There are plenty of pedants voicing concerns for the boaties.
The squeaky wheel gets the oil, so its time for suburban Australia to speak and ask for recognition.
This they did at the last election.
This is democracy in action and should be applauded .
Last time I looked, its not illegal to fulfil the will of the Australian people.

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