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Reply #405 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:56pm

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:45pm:

It is not illegal to enter Australia without a visa.

It is not criminal to pay people smugglers.

It is.

It is to be a people smuggler.

It is illegal to be a people smuggler. Yes. You are 100% correct.

However, not one single person has ever disputed that fact, so why you have decided to bring it up now is anyone's guess.

To recap:

it is not illegal to enter Australia without a visa

it is not illegal to pay a people smuggler

it is illegal to be a people smuggler

Is anything starting to sink in yet, Soren?

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Reply #407 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:44pm:

The majority of boat people, however, turn out to be genuine refugees. Indisputable fact.

Disputable. The government is disputing it by simply excluding all who attempt to enter Australia illegally - yes, I said illegally.

So who knows if they are going to continue to turn out to be 'genuine' refugees now that someone else will have to carry them.

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Reply #408 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:45pm:

It is not illegal to enter Australia without a visa.

It is not criminal to pay people smugglers.

It is.

It is to be a people smuggler.

It is illegal to be a people smuggler. Yes. You are 100% correct.

However, not one single person has ever disputed that fact, so why you have decided to bring it up now is anyone's guess.

Because you are stupid enough to say 'it's not illegal' to do whatever is actually illegal when you look at the context and not your hair splitting stupid way of playng with words.

That's why.

Like everything pertinent to any discussion, this has also escaped you. Let's see what other load of bollocks you have - and you have immense reserves.

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Reply #409 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:14pm

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:44pm:

The majority of boat people, however, turn out to be genuine refugees. Indisputable fact.

Disputable. The government is disputing it by simply excluding all who attempt to enter Australia illegally - yes, I said illegally.

Yes, we know what you said. However, you're wrong: they don't enter illegally.

You can try to demonise these people as much as you like ( to satisfy your irrational fear and hatred of anyone slightly different to you), however, intelligent people see right through you. You're not a particularly attractive human being, Soren. I'm sorry.

Also, you seem to have conceded that paying people smugglers is not illegal ... yes?

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Reply #410 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:56pm:

it is not illegal to enter Australia without a visa

it is not illegal to pay a people smuggler

it is illegal to be a people smuggler

Is anything starting to sink in yet, Soren?

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I have always known that you are a no-hoper so no news there. Your stupidity has sunk in to all of us some years ago, Prickadonna. You fancy yourself way, way above your station in life. You think silly semantics will carry you along because you do not realise just how silly your semantics are, little man.

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Reply #411 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:19pm

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:45pm:

It is not illegal to enter Australia without a visa.

It is not criminal to pay people smugglers.

It is.

It is to be a people smuggler.

It is illegal to be a people smuggler. Yes. You are 100% correct.

However, not one single person has ever disputed that fact, so why you have decided to bring it up now is anyone's guess.

Because you are stupid enough to say 'it's not illegal' to do whatever is actually illegal when you look at the context and not your hair splitting stupid way of playng with words.

Soren, my dear exasperated old chum, I have never made the claim that people smuggling is legal.

It is illegal. No 'ifs', no 'buts'.

Your frustration is getting to you and, with nowhere to run, you're resorting to lies.

Well, don't do it old chum.

You are already known as an ignorant, irrational bigot and racist: you don't really want to be known as a liar too, do you?

Just friendly advice, old chum Wink

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Reply #412 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:45pm:

It is not illegal to enter Australia without a visa.

It is not criminal to pay people smugglers.

It is.

It is to be a people smuggler.

It is illegal to be a people smuggler. Yes. You are 100% correct.

However, not one single person has ever disputed that fact, so why you have decided to bring it up now is anyone's guess.

To recap:

it is not illegal to enter Australia without a visa

it is not illegal to pay a people smuggler

it is illegal to be a people smuggler

Is anything starting to sink in yet, Soren?

You have shown to be wrong on all these things indisputably yet you persist. I initially thought your behaviour was funny but now I think you might be having some sort of nervous breakdown, you appear to be quite manic in your posting and you also appear to have some sort of delusion of grandiosity.

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Reply #413 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:14pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:44pm:

The majority of boat people, however, turn out to be genuine refugees. Indisputable fact.

Disputable. The government is disputing it by simply excluding all who attempt to enter Australia illegally - yes, I said illegally.

Yes, we know what you said. However, you're wrong: they don't enter illegally.

You can try to demonise these people as much as you like ( to satisfy your irrational fear and hatred of anyone slightly different to you), however, intelligent people see right through you. You're not a particularly attractive human being, Soren. I'm sorry.

Also, you seem to have conceded that paying people smugglers is not illegal ... yes?

Well, they are shipping them off to Manus Island for no reason then.
They are all fooked so you can be right.

That's your role in people's lives, I suspect, my little ol' union organiser - make a living from fooking people over big time.

Have a some gourmand's delight, Prickadonna.

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Reply #414 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:22pm

ian wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:56pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:45pm:

It is not illegal to enter Australia without a visa.

It is not criminal to pay people smugglers.

It is.

It is to be a people smuggler.

It is illegal to be a people smuggler. Yes. You are 100% correct.

However, not one single person has ever disputed that fact, so why you have decided to bring it up now is anyone's guess.

To recap:

it is not illegal to enter Australia without a visa

it is not illegal to pay a people smuggler

it is illegal to be a people smuggler

Is anything starting to sink in yet, Soren?

You have shown to be wrong on all these things ...

Really?

You're telling me now that it's not illegal to be a people smuggler?

ian, do you even know what day it is?

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Economic Refugees? Reply #415 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:23pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:19pm: You are already known as an ignorant, irrational bigot and racist: you don't really want to be known as a liar too, do you? You are desperate, Prickadonna.
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Reply #416 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:25pm

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:19pm:

You are already known as an ignorant, irrational bigot and racist: you don't really want to be known as a liar too, do you?

You are desperate, Prickadonna.

I noticed you didn't refute any of my claims.

We'll let the rest of the forum make of that what they will.

You have a good night, old chum.

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