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Grand Duke Imam Mahdi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 564 Gender:	Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch Reply #180 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:12pm You're on another planet.
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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #181 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:35pm

Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:12pm:

You're on another planet.

Yet you offer no counter argument.

Well, to be fair, you can't ... can you?

What I'm presenting isn't an "argument": it's indisputable fact.

However, feel free to give it a go if you feel you must.

I've humiliated ian, Soren, and a bunch of other similarly misinformed forum members tonight. I'm sure you won't present any real challenge (judging from posts of yours I've seen in other threads).

So, over to you: what have I said that is in any way incorrect?

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Grand Duke Imam Mahdi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 564 Gender:	Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch Reply #182 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:41pm
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 140099 Gender:	Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch Reply #183 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:44pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:41pm: Well done Johnny Cisco. You now join the likes of Soren, ian, Grendel, et al. Your parents would have been so proud.
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch Reply #184 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:05pm yes, everyone else is wrong including the UN, the entire australian legal system and assorted other experts. Only Greggary is right, hes the Don Quixote of OZpolitics.
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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #185 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:07pm

ian wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

yes, everyone else is wrong including the UN, the entire australian legal system and assorted other experts. Only Greggary is right, hes the Don Quixote of OZpolitics.

No, the UN is 100% correct.

Don't you remember that quote that you posted from them?

The Australian legal system is also correct.

As I said, I'm only stating facts.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #186 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:35pm:

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I've humiliated ian, Soren, and a bunch of other similarly misinformed forum members tonight. I'm sure you won't present any real challenge (judging from posts of yours I've seen in other threads).

So, over to you: what have I said that is in any way incorrect?

yes, I feel totally humiliated by you posting over and over counters to arguments which havent been put forward and continuing to spout how you know better than everyone else including the entire Western legal system. How can I sleep tonite?

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #187 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:09pm

ian wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:35pm:

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I've humiliated ian, Soren, and a bunch of other similarly misinformed forum members tonight. I'm sure you won't present any real challenge (judging from posts of yours I've seen in other threads).

So, over to you: what have I said that is in any way incorrect?

yes, I feel totally humiliated by you posting over and over counters to arguments which havent been put forward and continuing to spout how you know better than everyone else including the entire Western legal system. How can I sleep tonite?

I'm merely posting indisputable facts.

If you don't like the truth, perhaps you should go to bed.

I'm sure you'll sleep OK.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #188 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:09pm:

ian wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:35pm:

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I've humiliated ian, Soren, and a bunch of other similarly misinformed forum members tonight. I'm sure you won't present any real challenge (judging from posts of yours I've seen in other threads).

So, over to you: what have I said that is in any way incorrect?

yes, I feel totally humiliated by you posting over and over counters to arguments which havent been put forward and continuing to spout how you know better than everyone else including the entire Western legal system. How can I sleep tonite?

I'm merely posting indisputable facts.

No, you have been shown over and over you are wrong. Just accept it.

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If you don't like the truth, perhaps you should go to bed.

I'm sure you'll sleep OK.

Lol, what? What happened, get a knockback?

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #189 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:11am

ian wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:09pm:

ian wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:35pm:

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I've humiliated ian, Soren, and a bunch of other similarly misinformed forum members tonight. I'm sure you won't present any real challenge (judging from posts of yours I've seen in other threads).

So, over to you: what have I said that is in any way incorrect?

yes, I feel totally humiliated by you posting over and over counters to arguments which havent been put forward and continuing to spout how you know better than everyone else including the entire Western legal system. How can I sleep tonite?

I'm merely posting indisputable facts.

No, you have been shown over and over you are wrong.

Incorrect.

Not one piece of evidence has been presented to dispute my factual statements.

In fact, you've even provided support yourself:

Remember this post you made, ian:

"Wrong, heres the UNHCR definiton of asylum seeker.

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"The terms asylum-seeker and refugee are often confused: an asylum-seeker is someone who says he or she is a refugee, but whose claim has not yet been definitively evaluated."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1404881644/148#148

Thanks for you assistance, ian.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #190 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

Most if not all the illegal boat people have not fled their countries. They have bought a commercial airline ticket and flew out on a passport as tourists to sunny Malaysia and Indonesia. So no 'fleeing' there.

If they say they are fleeing persecution, they are a genuine asylum seeker. This is an indisputable fact.

Bollocks. It is not a personal identity issue like Aboriginality, with which you pathetically try to conflate it.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #191 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:06pm

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

Most if not all the illegal boat people have not fled their countries. They have bought a commercial airline ticket and flew out on a passport as tourists to sunny Malaysia and Indonesia. So no 'fleeing' there.

If they say they are fleeing persecution, they are a genuine asylum seeker. This is an indisputable fact.

Bollocks. It is not a personal identity issue like Aboriginality, with which you pathetically try to conflate it.

No bollocks.

It is a personal identity issue.

Show him again, ian:

" ... heres the UNHCR definiton of asylum seeker.

"Quote:

"The terms asylum-seeker and refugee are often confused: an asylum-seeker is someone who says he or she is a refugee, but whose claim has not yet been definitively evaluated."

Thank you, ian.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #192 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 2:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

Most if not all the illegal boat people have not fled their countries. They have bought a commercial airline ticket and flew out on a passport as tourists to sunny Malaysia and Indonesia. So no 'fleeing' there.

If they say they are fleeing persecution, they are a genuine asylum seeker. This is an indisputable fact.

Bollocks. It is not a personal identity issue like Aboriginality, with which you pathetically try to conflate it.

No bollocks.

It is a personal identity issue.

Show him again, ian:

" ... heres the UNHCR definiton of asylum seeker.

"Quote:

"The terms asylum-seeker and refugee are often confused: an asylum-seeker is someone who says he or she is a refugee, but whose claim has not yet been definitively evaluated."

Thank you, ian.

Please show the bit which states "anyone who requests asylum is a genuine asylum seeker"

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #193 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 2:38pm

ian wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

Most if not all the illegal boat people have not fled their countries. They have bought a commercial airline ticket and flew out on a passport as tourists to sunny Malaysia and Indonesia. So no 'fleeing' there.

If they say they are fleeing persecution, they are a genuine asylum seeker. This is an indisputable fact.

Bollocks. It is not a personal identity issue like Aboriginality, with which you pathetically try to conflate it.

No bollocks.

It is a personal identity issue.

Show him again, ian:

" ... heres the UNHCR definiton of asylum seeker.

"Quote:

"The terms asylum-seeker and refugee are often confused: an asylum-seeker is someone who says he or she is a refugee, but whose claim has not yet been definitively evaluated."

Thank you, ian.

Please show the bit which states "anyone who requests asylum is a genuine asylum seeker"

I don't need to, ian.

All I need to do is quote this:

"The terms asylum-seeker and refugee are often confused: an asylum-seeker is someone who says he or she is a refugee, but whose claim has not yet been definitively evaluated."

Thanks for that UNHCR definition, by the way. It's made my job so much easier.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #194 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

Most if not all the illegal boat people have not fled their countries. They have bought a commercial airline ticket and flew out on a passport as tourists to sunny Malaysia and Indonesia. So no 'fleeing' there.

If they say they are fleeing persecution, they are a genuine asylum seeker. This is an indisputable fact.

Bollocks. It is not a personal identity issue like Aboriginality, with which you pathetically try to conflate it.

No bollocks.

It is a personal identity issue.

Show him again, ian:

" ... heres the UNHCR definiton of asylum seeker.

"Quote:

"The terms asylum-seeker and refugee are often confused: an asylum-seeker is someone who says he or she is a refugee, but whose claim has not yet been definitively evaluated."

Thank you, ian.

This is one of you 'it's not illegal to be an idiot' arguments.

Anyone can claim whatever they like. It doesn't make them genuine.

Uttering in itself is not truth.

An Iranian coming from Indonesia after paying $10K to a smuggler is not telling you the truth.
Is he an applicant for asylum? He is trying.
Is he genuine? No.

You argument is as stupid as the argument of all the people who fill in a lottery ticket and want to be recognised as millionaire winner and blame the undue cruelty of the lottery office and the rules of lottery that deny them their windfall.

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