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Reply #195 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:23pm

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:19pm:

Anyone can claim whatever they like. It doesn't make them genuine.

If they say they are a refugee, seeking asylum, they are indeed a genuine asylum seeker.

However, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are a genuine refugee.

You just need to learn the difference between asylum seekers and refugees.

You'll get there.

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Reply #197 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:23pm:

If they say they are a refugee, seeking asylum, they are indeed a genuine asylum seeker.

However, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are a genuine refugee.

Crap.

If they are not genuine refugees then they are fake asylum seekers. They are seeking asylum under false pretences.

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Reply #198 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:08pm

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:23pm:

If they say they are a refugee, seeking asylum, they are indeed a genuine asylum seeker.

However, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are a genuine refugee.

Crap.

If they are not genuine refugees then they are fake asylum seekers. They are seeking asylum under false pretences.

No, not "crap" at all. All perfectly true.

If they are not genuine refugees, then they are liars.

They still remain, however, genuine asylum seekers (as there is actually no such thing as a "non genuine asylum seeker").

You just need to learn the difference between asylum seekers and refugees.

You'll get there.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #199 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:11pm

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:23pm:

If they say they are a refugee, seeking asylum, they are indeed a genuine asylum seeker.

However, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are a genuine refugee.

Crap.

If they are not genuine refugees then they are fake asylum seekers. They are seeking asylum under false pretences.

Yes Soren, you are correct.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 140099 Gender:	Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch Reply #200 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:28pm Hey Soren, you've got ian on your side now (he thinks people smuggling is legal). If alarm bells weren't ringing before, they should be now You have a good night, my old chum
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fantasy island New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9 Gender:	Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch Reply #201 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:34pm here's a nightcap from William Blake- I was angry with my friend I told my wrath, my wrath did end. I was angry with my foe: I told it not, my wrath did grow.
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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #202 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:08pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:23pm:

If they say they are a refugee, seeking asylum, they are indeed a genuine asylum seeker.

However, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are a genuine refugee.

Crap.

If they are not genuine refugees then they are fake asylum seekers. They are seeking asylum under false pretences.

No, not "crap" at all. All perfectly true.

If they are not genuine refugees, then they are liars.

They still remain, however, genuine asylum seekers (as there is actually no such thing as a "non genuine asylum seeker").

You just need to learn the difference between asylum seekers and refugees.

You'll get there.

It's not illegal to be greggerypeccary. Show me where it says it's illegal.

That's all there is to it.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch Reply #203 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:40pm fantasy island wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:34pm: here's a nightcap from William Blake- I was angry with my friend I told my wrath, my wrath did end. I was angry with my foe: I told it not, my wrath did grow. He is not my foe. He is just a looney.
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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #204 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:41pm

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:08pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:23pm:

If they say they are a refugee, seeking asylum, they are indeed a genuine asylum seeker.

However, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are a genuine refugee.

Crap.

If they are not genuine refugees then they are fake asylum seekers. They are seeking asylum under false pretences.

No, not "crap" at all. All perfectly true.

If they are not genuine refugees, then they are liars.

They still remain, however, genuine asylum seekers (as there is actually no such thing as a "non genuine asylum seeker").

You just need to learn the difference between asylum seekers and refugees.

You'll get there.

It's not illegal to be greggerypeccary. Show me where it says it's illegal.

That's all there is to it.

Indeed.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #205 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:45pm

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:40pm:

fantasy island wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:34pm:

here's a nightcap from William Blake-

I was angry with my friend
I told my wrath, my wrath did end.
I was angry with my foe:
I told it not, my wrath did grow.

Tongue

He is not my foe. He is just a looney.

Let's see now:

I disagree with your homophobic, bigoted, irrational, racist view of the world (yet still tolerate it).

I prove you wrong on absolutely every "argument" you try to advance.

You never, ever, provide any sort of reliable evidence to substantiate your ridiculous claims.

When pushed into a corner, you resort to telling lies and hurling personal insults.

Yet, despite all of this, you call me a "looney".

You have a good rest, my old chum. Pleasant dreams Wink

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 140099 Gender:	Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch Reply #206 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 9:45pm Soren got his little ass owned
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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #207 - Jul 15^th, 2014 at 12:59am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 9:45pm:

Soren got his little ass owned Grin

I think you had your arse handed to you. Especially when you made some concessions that asylum seekers aren't necessarily refugees. Aren't your proving us right that someone traveling half way around the world isn't genuinely a refugee? They are economic migrants that don't want to wait.

I love the analogy with the lottery ticket, btw. Seems apt. People taking a punt on living somewhere luxurious, and if they don't get amongst the winners, it's all the lottery office's fault.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #208 - Jul 15^th, 2014 at 10:18am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:08pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:23pm:

If they say they are a refugee, seeking asylum, they are indeed a genuine asylum seeker.

However, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are a genuine refugee.

Crap.

If they are not genuine refugees then they are fake asylum seekers. They are seeking asylum under false pretences.

No, not "crap" at all. All perfectly true.

If they are not genuine refugees, then they are liars.

They still remain, however, genuine asylum seekers (as there is actually no such thing as a "non genuine asylum seeker").

You just need to learn the difference between asylum seekers and refugees.

You'll get there.

If someone fraudalenty runs a business, do you call them a business person, or a fraud ?

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #209 - Jul 15^th, 2014 at 10:29am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 12:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 9:45pm:

Soren got his little ass owned Grin

I think you had your arse handed to you. Especially when you made some concessions that asylum seekers aren't necessarily refugees. Aren't your proving us right that someone traveling half way around the world isn't genuinely a refugee? They are economic migrants that don't want to wait.

You seem to be confusing 'refugees' with 'asylum seekers'.

If someone says they are seeking asylum, they are a genuine asylum seeker. No 'ifs', no 'buts'.

However, that does not necessarily mean that they are a genuine refugee.

Nobody has ever suggested that all asylum seekers are genuine refugees. We know for a fact that some are not.

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