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Reply #45 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:30pm

To be honest, I don't quite know where you stand. You seem to have endless reserves for meaningless hairsplitting and 'yes, butting' but have no actual stance on most issues, other than 'I didn't say that' when you can no longer obfuscate.

Do you know where you stand on, say, the asylum seeker issues? Do you have an actual stance or is it just an endless nitpicking of whatever is said by others.

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Reply #46 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:34pm

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

Yes, how dastardly of those evil women to do all they can to avoid having their children sent back to those lovely peaceful paradises in Syria and Iraq.

Didnt they come here from Indonesia? what threat were they under there?

Indonesia does not process and settle asylum seekers. They were in legal limbo there.

Only as asylum seekers. Indonesia allows them to stay, work and everything else without threat of persecution.

So an Iranian or Syrian can just drop everything and say "hmmm, I think I'll go live and work in Indonesia"?

I don't think so.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #47 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:36pm

Soren wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

To be honest, I don't quite know where you stand. You seem to have endless reserves for meaningless hairsplitting and 'yes, butting' but have no actual stance on most issues, other than 'I didn't say that' when you can no longer obfuscate.

Do you know where you stand on, say, the asylum seeker issues? Do you have an actual stance or is it just an endless nitpicking of whatever is said by others.

All you had to say was "sorry".

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Reply #48 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 3:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:36pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

To be honest, I don't quite know where you stand. You seem to have endless reserves for meaningless hairsplitting and 'yes, butting' but have no actual stance on most issues, other than 'I didn't say that' when you can no longer obfuscate.

Do you know where you stand on, say, the asylum seeker issues? Do you have an actual stance or is it just an endless nitpicking of whatever is said by others.

All you had to say was "sorry".

You prove my point.

When asked to articulate where you actually stand, you immediately retreat into what you mistakenly believe to be wit but which is just inane deflection you have probably first used in junior school and have never moved on from.

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Reply #49 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 4:30pm

Soren wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 3:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:36pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

To be honest, I don't quite know where you stand. You seem to have endless reserves for meaningless hairsplitting and 'yes, butting' but have no actual stance on most issues, other than 'I didn't say that' when you can no longer obfuscate.

Do you know where you stand on, say, the asylum seeker issues? Do you have an actual stance or is it just an endless nitpicking of whatever is said by others.

All you had to say was "sorry".

You prove my point.

When asked to articulate where you actually stand, you immediately retreat into what you mistakenly believe to be wit but which is just inane deflection you have probably first used in junior school and have never moved on from.

You accused me of saying something I didn't say. I set you straight on that. You don't want to admit you made a mistake? Fine. If you admitted to all of your mistakes, we'd be here all day.

Then, you asked me where I stand on "the asylum seeker issues".

Well, Soren, there are many issues.

Which one, in particular, would you like me to comment on?

This thread isn't about me, however, I'm only too happy to answer your questions if that's what will make you happy.

So, fire away (but please, be specific).

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #50 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 4:56pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

Yes, how dastardly of those evil women to do all they can to avoid having their children sent back to those lovely peaceful paradises in Syria and Iraq.

Didnt they come here from Indonesia? what threat were they under there?

Indonesia does not process and settle asylum seekers. They were in legal limbo there.

Only as asylum seekers. Indonesia allows them to stay, work and everything else without threat of persecution.

So an Iranian or Syrian can just drop everything and say "hmmm, I think I'll go live and work in Indonesia"?

I don't think so.

One with money can. Dont think that these asylum seekers coming from Indonesia are poor with nothing but the clothes on their back, that isnt the case.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #51 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 7:00pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

Yes, how dastardly of those evil women to do all they can to avoid having their children sent back to those lovely peaceful paradises in Syria and Iraq.

They are not Syrian nor Iraqi ... more likely Lebanese or Iranian...

but most who are from places in the ME are men ... especially those from Afghanistan.

The recent illegal arrivals are Tamil Sri Lankans. Yes Sri Lankans .... albeit they belong to an ethnic group that wants or wanted it's own separate state .... until the Sri Lankan govt. finally suppressed their terrorist faction the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (Tamil Tigers). These people are descended from the same ancestors as the Tamil people of Indian state of Tamil Nadu. They being the only "tigers" that inhabited Sri Lanka.

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Reply #52 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 7:11pm

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 4:56pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

Yes, how dastardly of those evil women to do all they can to avoid having their children sent back to those lovely peaceful paradises in Syria and Iraq.

Didnt they come here from Indonesia? what threat were they under there?

Indonesia does not process and settle asylum seekers. They were in legal limbo there.

Only as asylum seekers. Indonesia allows them to stay, work and everything else without threat of persecution.

So an Iranian or Syrian can just drop everything and say "hmmm, I think I'll go live and work in Indonesia"?

I don't think so.

One with money can. Dont think that these asylum seekers coming from Indonesia are poor with nothing but the clothes on their back, that isnt the case.

Completely irrelevant.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch Reply #53 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 7:16pm So the Tamils are oppressed. Ever heard of the Tamil Tigers a much feared terrorist organisation in Sri Lanka? What happens in Sri Lanka should bloody well stay there. Don't want them, don't need them.
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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #54 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 8:30pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

Yes, how dastardly of those evil women to do all they can to avoid having their children sent back to those lovely peaceful paradises in Syria and Iraq.

Didnt they come here from Indonesia? what threat were they under there?

Indonesia does not process and settle asylum seekers. They were in legal limbo there.

So why should we?

In that case the Indonesians should deport them to from whence they came.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #55 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 9:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 4:56pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

Yes, how dastardly of those evil women to do all they can to avoid having their children sent back to those lovely peaceful paradises in Syria and Iraq.

Didnt they come here from Indonesia? what threat were they under there?

Indonesia does not process and settle asylum seekers. They were in legal limbo there.

Only as asylum seekers. Indonesia allows them to stay, work and everything else without threat of persecution.

So an Iranian or Syrian can just drop everything and say "hmmm, I think I'll go live and work in Indonesia"?

I don't think so.

One with money can. Dont think that these asylum seekers coming from Indonesia are poor with nothing but the clothes on their back, that isnt the case.

Completely irrelevant.

not to us adults.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #56 - Jul 11^th, 2014 at 2:06am

hermoine wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 4:32am:

Are they fleeing Sri Lanka because they don't want to die?
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Exactly! They don't want to die, but are willing to threaten suicide to get their way. Um, why bother making the trip in the first place, when you could off yourself at home? I think they think we are stupid. We don't want suicidal people migrating to our country. We don't want violent people. We don't want stupid people thinking that they are smart enough to emotionally blackmail our nation into giving them what they want, when they know that they are arriving here to get a free ride.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #57 - Jul 11^th, 2014 at 8:11am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 11^th, 2014 at 2:06am:

hermoine wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 4:32am:

Are they fleeing Sri Lanka because they don't want to die?
Shocked

Exactly! They don't want to die, but are willing to threaten suicide to get their way. Um, why bother making the trip in the first place, when you could off yourself at home? I think they think we are stupid. We don't want suicidal people migrating to our country. We don't want violent people. We don't want stupid people thinking that they are smart enough to emotionally blackmail our nation into giving them what they want, when they know that they are arriving here to get a free ride.

deport them, get them off our expenses list

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Reply #58 - Jul 11^th, 2014 at 8:46am

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 9:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 4:56pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

Yes, how dastardly of those evil women to do all they can to avoid having their children sent back to those lovely peaceful paradises in Syria and Iraq.

Didnt they come here from Indonesia? what threat were they under there?

Indonesia does not process and settle asylum seekers. They were in legal limbo there.

Only as asylum seekers. Indonesia allows them to stay, work and everything else without threat of persecution.

So an Iranian or Syrian can just drop everything and say "hmmm, I think I'll go live and work in Indonesia"?

I don't think so.

One with money can. Dont think that these asylum seekers coming from Indonesia are poor with nothing but the clothes on their back, that isnt the case.

Completely irrelevant.

not to us adults.

Even a child would understand that the amount of money an asylum seeker has is completely irrelevant to their refugee status.

Astounding ignorance.

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Re: Nine asylum-seeker mums on self-harm watch
Reply #59 - Jul 11^th, 2014 at 8:55am

Gnads wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

ian wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

Yes, how dastardly of those evil women to do all they can to avoid having their children sent back to those lovely peaceful paradises in Syria and Iraq.

Didnt they come here from Indonesia? what threat were they under there?

Indonesia does not process and settle asylum seekers. They were in legal limbo there.

So why should we?

In that case the Indonesians should deport them to from whence they came.

because we signed the UN refugee convention ... Indonesia didn't

If you don't like it, tell Abbott to pull out of it

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