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PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal
Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:20am

PUP won't back Thursday carbon tax repeal

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July 10, 2014
The Age

Clive Palmer has thrown a last-minute curveball at the Abbott government by announcing his senators will delay a Senate vote on the carbon tax.

The Palmer United Party had an agreement with the government to support amendments that guarantee savings from the abolished tax are passed on to consumers and business.

But on Thursday, after supporting a government move to bring on a vote at 11.50am (AEST), Mr Palmer announced changes to PUP amendments.

The amendments provoked a "violent reaction" from the government, he told reporters in Canberra.

"There are no circumstances that we'd be voting today for the carbon tax repeal."

The latest changes include replacing the word "may" with "must" and putting 14 and 30-day timeframes on specific compliance measures.

As well they ensure that if savings are not passed on by July 1, 2015, companies would be required to pay a penalty - amounting to 250 per cent of any savings - to the federal government.

Mr Palmer said the amendments were lodged with the Senate Clerk's office at 8.30am.

"We asked that it be distributed and we had a violent action from government, a violent reaction I would say," Mr Palmer said.

"We had ministers calling us and visiting our senators and complaining."

Mr Palmer defended his party's move, arguing the changes ensure savings would be passed onto consumers.

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 26526 Gender:	Re: PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal Reply #1 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:24am Get rid of preferences.
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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal Reply #2 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:27am Sounds like a fair amendment. Must give certainty. "May" gives nothing.
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal Reply #3 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:32am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:24am: Get rid of preferences. Just admit it, this government is screwed. Complete behest to PUP. $9 Billion in concessions, deficits growing, budget can't be passed. Time for a new ELECTION.
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Re: PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal
Reply #4 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:57am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

Get rid of preferences.

Just admit it, this government is screwed. Complete behest to PUP. Cheesy

$9 Billion in concessions, deficits growing, budget can't be passed. Time for a new ELECTION.

we'll see...

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Re: PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal
Reply #5 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:11pm

So much for "not doing any deals with minor parties!"

They are behest to a party with less members than the greens.

I have to laugh - Tony thought the new senate was going to be a cake walk.

As it is - it appears it is even more unpredictable.

I hope Tony is good at negotiating (BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Opposing for the sake of it was a great tactic - Tony was excellent at it and must now reap the consequences.

12.10pm AEST
Palmer played down any suggestions that the confusion was his fault. Asked whether the government had engaged in trickery, Palmer said:
It could have been but you never want to underestimate the incompetence of the Abbott government.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal Reply #6 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:13pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:24am: Get rid of preferences. Tissue???
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Re: PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal
Reply #7 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:13pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:11pm:

So much for "not doing any deals with minor parties!"

They are behest to a party with less members than the greens.

I have to laugh - Tony thought the new senate was going to be a cake walk.

As it is - it appears it is even more unpredictable.

I hope Tony is good at negotiating (BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Opposing for the sake of it was a great tactic - Tony was excellent at it and must now reap the consequences.

12.10pm AEST
Palmer played down any suggestions that the confusion was his fault. Asked whether the government had engaged in trickery, Palmer said:
It could have been but you never want to underestimate the incompetence of the Abbott government.

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what are you laughing at?

do you get off on seeing Australia going down the tube?

what kind of unpatriotic loser acts like that?

maybe you should try go living in another country if you don't like this one..

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Re: PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal
Reply #8 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:15pm

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Fit of Absent Mindeness Gold Member Offline We need more fits of absent mindedness Posts: 1622 Brisbane Gender:	Re: PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal Reply #9 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:16pm The LNP tears are delicious. Tony displayed the same behavior when in opposition. If you want anyone to blame, blame him! I love this country - I don't like what Tony and the LNP stand for and am happy that someone is standing up to them.
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Reply #10 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:19pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:16pm:

The LNP tears are delicious.

Tony displayed the same behavior when in opposition.

If you want anyone to blame, blame him!

I love this country - I don't like what Tony and the LNP stand for and am happy that someone is standing up to them.

rubbish...

the Labor/Green/independent government had the majority and almost succeeded in sinking this country...

now the same scum are still trying to sink Australia from opposition...

the same people you are applauding...

any right thinking person would be ashamed of themselves for doing so... Angry

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal Reply #12 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:22pm OH the tanty,, ROTFLMAO. typical fascist, "love out dictatorship or leave" suck it up girly boy.
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Fit of Absent Mindeness Gold Member Offline We need more fits of absent mindedness Posts: 1622 Brisbane Gender:	Re: PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal Reply #13 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:22pm Stop throwing your toys out of the pram. It's no-ones fault but the LNP's - if they can't negotiate with other parties, then they will keep having this problem.
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Re: PUP Won't Back Thursday Carbon Tax Repeal
Reply #14 - Jul 10^th, 2014 at 12:23pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:57am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 10^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

Get rid of preferences.

Just admit it, this government is screwed. Complete behest to PUP. Cheesy

$9 Billion in concessions, deficits growing, budget can't be passed. Time for a new ELECTION.

we'll see...

Well see what? They have conceded $9 billion. That's a fact. They have watered down their repeal. A fact. And majority of their budget will be voted down. A 95% probability. All they are good for is sending children back to be tortured.

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