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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #30 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 3:07pm

Adamant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 12:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 12:07pm:

Adamant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 12:00pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 10:32am:

Adamant wrote on Jul 12^th, 2014 at 5:50pm:

You have to be kidding me Gandalf, you offer a blogger as proof that Mo did not say what he did say?

I offer the arguments said blogger presented.

Shame you are seemingly incapable of objectively considering an argument.

I considered it, albeit fleetingly.

Yes, objectivity seems sadly lacking from your posts, Adamant. Not surprising really. Roll Eyes

Cherry picking threads is a favourite method of intimidation of yours is it not Brian. You also resort to "ad hominem" when it suits your purpose. Oh and the glyphs haha.

I answer the points that I feel need answering, Adamant. The same as every other poster but seem to feel intimidated when I do it. I wonder why? You also seem to feel intimidated when I point out you've resorted to ad hominem argument...again. I wonder why? Are you really that insecure in your opinions? Roll Eyes

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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #31 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 3:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

I answer the points that I feel need answering

No you do not, you troll! You answer no points, obfuscation along with racism is the weapon of choice heralded by your insignificant self.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

ad hominem argument

Try something else Brian LP's went out of fashion yonks ago.

In my humble opinion you are nothing more than an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur so will have nothing more to say to you traitor. Grin

I do hope that your limited intelligence allows you to appreciate the true meanings of the glyphs, unfortunately I very much doubt it!

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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #32 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 5:44pm

Ah, we've now moved to the "Agent Provocateur " stage, now have we, Adamant, having gone through "liar" to "troll" and "ad hominem" stages to get there. I suppose the attack thread is the next stage?

Why do you feel this has to be about personalities and in particular me? I'm flattered that you believe it all revolves around me but really... Roll Eyes

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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #33 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 5:44pm:

Ah, we've now moved to the "Agent Provocateur " stage, now have we, Adamant, having gone through "liar" to "troll" and "ad hominem" stages to get there. I suppose the attack thread is the next stage?

Why do you feel this has to be about personalities and in particular me? I'm flattered that you believe it all revolves around me but really... Roll Eyes

You have called me Bigot Racist and Troll. What does that make you. Ignorant of the rules of posting I suggest.

Ever been threatened with a ban? No of course not possum!

PS how is your Spanish History going, getting better at it are you? Would not be difficult all you would have to do is raise your IQ above 60.

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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #34 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:33pm

Adamant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 5:44pm:

Ah, we've now moved to the "Agent Provocateur " stage, now have we, Adamant, having gone through "liar" to "troll" and "ad hominem" stages to get there. I suppose the attack thread is the next stage?

Why do you feel this has to be about personalities and in particular me? I'm flattered that you believe it all revolves around me but really... Roll Eyes

You have called me Bigot Racist and Troll. What does that make you. Ignorant of the rules of posting I suggest.

When you post in a Trollish manner, I call you a Troll.
When you post with racist arguments, I call you a Racist.
When you post in a bigoted way, I call you a Bigot.

If the cap fits, why are you so afraid to wear it, Adamant? Roll Eyes

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Ever been threatened with a ban? No of course not possum!

Here? I don't believe so. Why should I be? I am invariably polite and don't sink to the use of ad hominem, unlike yourself. Roll Eyes

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PS how is your Spanish History going, getting better at it are you?

My knowledge of Spanish history is reasonable, but I must admit not perfect. It isn't my period of speciality. You appear to be questioning something. What?

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Would not be difficult all you would have to do is raise your IQ above 60.

Again, a resort to ad hominem. Why? Why do you feel it is necessary? Does it make you feel superior in some way when you can't win an argument? Roll Eyes

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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #35 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 5:44pm:

Ah, we've now moved to the "Agent Provocateur " stage, now have we, Adamant, having gone through "liar" to "troll" and "ad hominem" stages to get there. I suppose the attack thread is the next stage?

Why do you feel this has to be about personalities and in particular me? I'm flattered that you believe it all revolves around me but really... Roll Eyes

Because all you do is troll. Don't get sooky over being called one.

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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #36 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:33pm:

When you post in a Trollish manner, I call you a Troll.When you post with racist arguments, I call you a Racist.When you post in a bigoted way, I call you a Bigot.

And when we do this to you we are banned without explanation.

I have asked Gandalf twice to stop Stalking me.

I have asked him if it is time I sought advice from a solicitor.

The muslim has gone to ground.

You tell me who is the troll person of ill repute?

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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #37 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:48pm

So there was an orphan boy who the Prophet's wife a woman became rather attached to. When he approached puberty, she became concerned that she would no longer be able to maintain the relationship with the orphan boy as the Islamic religion advises adherents to restrict themselves from mingling with the opposite sex after puberty. So the Prophet told the woman to establish a legal maternal relationship with the boy by feeding him her breast milk.

The feeding requires no physical contact, and only requires that the boy drank his fill five times. The milk could be drunk from a cup. In this way, the woman sort of adopted the orphan boy.

Is there anything sinister about it? Not that I can see.

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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #38 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:35pm

Abbott Lies wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:48pm:

So there was an orphan boy who the Prophet's wife became rather attached to. When he approached puberty, she became concerned that she would no longer be able to maintain the relationship with the orphan boy as the Islamic religion advises adherents to restrict themselves from mingling with the opposite sex after puberty. So the Prophet told his wife to establish a legal maternal relationship with the boy by feeding him her breast milk.The feeding requires no physical contact, and only requires that the boy drank his fill five times. The milk could be drunk from a cup. In this way, the Prophet's wife sort of adopted the orphan boy.

The "boy" had fought in battles, he was deemed a warrior, he was a MAN.

In no place that is authentic does it say "the man drank from a cup". It does say "I suckled him".

Go back to what the muslims call "AUTHENTIC" they all love that, but perhaps they will hate this one.

PS I do not know who's wife was told this!

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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #39 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:44pm

Abbott Lies wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:48pm:

So there was an orphan boy who the Prophet's wife became rather attached to. When he approached puberty, she became concerned that she would no longer be able to maintain the relationship with the orphan boy as the Islamic religion advises adherents to restrict themselves from mingling with the opposite sex after puberty. So the Prophet told his wife to establish a legal maternal relationship with the boy by feeding him her breast milk.

The feeding requires no physical contact, and only requires that the boy drank his fill five times. The milk could be drunk from a cup. In this way, the Prophet's wife sort of adopted the orphan boy.

Is there anything sinister about it? Not that I can see.

Drunk from a CUP Grin

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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #40 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 9:27pm

Adamant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:33pm:

When you post in a Trollish manner, I call you a Troll.When you post with racist arguments, I call you a Racist.When you post in a bigoted way, I call you a Bigot.

And when we do this to you we are banned without explanation.

And I am responsible? Really? Roll Eyes

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I have asked Gandalf twice to stop Stalking me.

I have asked him if it is time I sought advice from a solicitor.

The muslim has gone to ground.

You tell me who is the troll person of ill repute?

You, Adamant? I don't troll, despite what you claim. I provide (usually) substantial answers to other's questions, which are on topic and pertinent. I am not bigoted against any religion. I treat all equally. Perhaps that is why I don't get banned without warning? Roll Eyes

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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #42 - Jul 13^th, 2014 at 11:59pm

Adamant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

Abbott Lies wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:48pm:

So there was an orphan boy who the Prophet's wife became rather attached to. When he approached puberty, she became concerned that she would no longer be able to maintain the relationship with the orphan boy as the Islamic religion advises adherents to restrict themselves from mingling with the opposite sex after puberty. So the Prophet told his wife to establish a legal maternal relationship with the boy by feeding him her breast milk.The feeding requires no physical contact, and only requires that the boy drank his fill five times. The milk could be drunk from a cup. In this way, the Prophet's wife sort of adopted the orphan boy.

The "boy" had fought in battles, he was deemed a warrior, he was a MAN.

In no place that is authentic does it say "the man drank from a cup". It does say "I suckled him".

Go back to what the muslims call "AUTHENTIC" they all love that, but perhaps they will hate this one.

PS I do not know who's wife was told this!

Ok, so I looked up the authentic from a book called Sahih Muslim. The story was not even about the Prophet's wife, but another woman named Sahla bint Suhail.

Here is what the authentic book of Sahih Muslim says:

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Book 008, Number 3426:

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail b. 'Amr came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, Salim (the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa) is living with us in our house, and he has attained puberty as youths attain it and has acquired knowledge as youths acquire, whereupon he said: Suckle him so that he may become unlawful (in regard to marriage) for you

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Book 008, Number 3427:
Umm Salama said to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her): A young boy who is at the threshold of puberty comes to you. I, however, do not like that he should come to me, whereupon 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) said: Don't you see in Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) a model for you? She also said: The wife of Abu Hudhaifa said: Messenger of Allah, Salim comes to me and now he is a (grown-up) person, and there is something that (rankles) in the mind of Abu Hudhaifa about him, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him (so that he may become your foster-child), and thus he may be able to come to you (freely).

So the story is about a young orphan boy maybe 11 or 12 or even younger, who had been brought up by the woman as a foster child. And it is unclear whether the milk was drunk from a cup or not.

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Re: Question about breastfeeding
Reply #44 - Jul 15^th, 2014 at 6:34pm

Abbott Lies wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 11:59pm:

Adamant wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

Abbott Lies wrote on Jul 13^th, 2014 at 7:48pm:

So there was an orphan boy who the Prophet's wife became rather attached to. When he approached puberty, she became concerned that she would no longer be able to maintain the relationship with the orphan boy as the Islamic religion advises adherents to restrict themselves from mingling with the opposite sex after puberty. So the Prophet told his wife to establish a legal maternal relationship with the boy by feeding him her breast milk.The feeding requires no physical contact, and only requires that the boy drank his fill five times. The milk could be drunk from a cup. In this way, the Prophet's wife sort of adopted the orphan boy.

The "boy" had fought in battles, he was deemed a warrior, he was a MAN.

In no place that is authentic does it say "the man drank from a cup". It does say "I suckled him".

Go back to what the muslims call "AUTHENTIC" they all love that, but perhaps they will hate this one.

PS I do not know who's wife was told this!

Ok, so I looked up the authentic from a book called Sahih Muslim. The story was not even about the Prophet's wife, but another woman named Sahla bint Suhail.

Here is what the authentic book of Sahih Muslim says:

Quote:

Book 008, Number 3426:

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail b. 'Amr came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, Salim (the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa) is living with us in our house, and he has attained puberty as youths attain it and has acquired knowledge as youths acquire, whereupon he said: Suckle him so that he may become unlawful (in regard to marriage) for you

and

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Book 008, Number 3427:
Umm Salama said to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her): A young boy who is at the threshold of puberty comes to you. I, however, do not like that he should come to me, whereupon 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) said: Don't you see in Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) a model for you? She also said: The wife of Abu Hudhaifa said: Messenger of Allah, Salim comes to me and now he is a (grown-up) person, and there is something that (rankles) in the mind of Abu Hudhaifa about him, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him (so that he may become your foster-child), and thus he may be able to come to you (freely).

So the story is about a young orphan boy maybe 11 or 12 or even younger, who had been brought up by the woman as a foster child. And it is unclear whether the milk was drunk from a cup or not.

He fought in the battle of ? then classed as a?

Many of the "JEW BOYS" were killed for having pubic hair due to the fact that MO wanted to shag all the females,.

Have you read about the battle of the trench's? Ask Gandalf if not, I feel sure he will accommodate a person who knows little about Islam.

Noticed how Gandalf has left this thread. Why?

Because he has no answer to the legitimate claim. MO ordered lactating mothers to SUCKLE adults.

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