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Question: Should we sacrifice 1% of our coast to prevent WW3?

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Should Israel bomb/invade Gaza ?
Jul 11th, 2014 at 7:40pm
 

Should Israel continue to bomb Gaza, and consider to invade Gaza - to punish Hamas ?




If Hamas cadres are launching rockets from Gaza, and those rockets are targeting Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and Sderot and other Israeli population centres, how should Israel respond ?

Is Israel justified in targeting Hamas cadres in Gaza, using air strikes, even if it is likely that some civilians in Gaza may be killed ?

If the people of Gaza want the punishing Israeli reprisals against Hamas rocket launches to stop, should the people of Gaza demand that Hamas stop rocketing Israeli cities ?

Or is that too much to ask ?       Cheesy

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Hamas is the elected governing authority in Gaza.

Hamas in Gaza, is democracy at work - among a moslem populace.

Hamas is recognised as a terror entity [by the world community], isn't it ?


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: Should Israel bomb/invade Gaza ?
Reply #1 - Jul 11th, 2014 at 8:20pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jul 11th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

Should Israel continue to bomb Gaza, and consider to invade Gaza - to punish Hamas ?




If Hamas cadres are launching rockets from Gaza, and those rockets are targeting Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and Sderot and other Israeli population centres, how should Israel respond ?

Is Israel justified in targeting Hamas cadres in Gaza, using air strikes, even if it is likely that some civilians in Gaza may be killed ?

If the people of Gaza want the punishing Israeli reprisals against Hamas rocket launches to stop, should the people of Gaza demand that Hamas stop rocketing Israeli cities ?

Or is that too much to ask ?       Cheesy

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Hamas is the elected governing authority in Gaza.

Hamas in Gaza, is democracy at work - among a moslem populace.

Hamas is recognised as a terror entity [by the world community], isn't it ?





Whoever kidnapped and murdered those three Jewish boys was planning just this kind of strife.  What everyone is now focusing on is the Jews hitting BACK.  Jews are not supposed to be hitting back. Jews are supposed to be going quietly. 
But with the creation of liberal, democratic Israel, that paradigm is over.   I am with Israel.

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Re: Should Israel bomb/invade Gaza ?
Reply #2 - Jul 11th, 2014 at 11:51pm
 

".....Hamas is a recognised terrorist organisation, motivated by the most radical ideology, including a charter that calls for the murder of all Jews."



Google;
Hamas charter, calls for the genocide of all Jews



The Israel/Palestinian conflict.....


It is not about land [for a Palestinian 'homeland']....

The Israel/Palestinian conflict - is about ISLAM and about 'pre-set' ISLAMIC religious doctrines.    Koran 9.29



Quote:

THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS
....

On the Destruction of Israel:

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'Israel will exist and  will  continue  to  exist  until  Islam  will

obliterate it,
just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)



The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:

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'The  land  of  Palestine  is  an  Islamic  Waqf  [Holy   Possession]

consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No  one

can renounce it or any part, or  abandon  it  or  any  part  of  it.'

(Article 11)



'Palestine is  an  Islamic  land...  Since  this  is  the  case,  the

Liberation of Palestine  is  an  individual  duty  for  every  Moslem

wherever he may be.' (Article 13)....

http://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm




'Palestinians' are not fighting for a 'homeland'.

The 'Palestinians' are fighting the Jewish people, because the Jewish people [LIVING in the ancient homeland of the Jewish people - Israel], are not moslems.

Period.

The Israel/Palestinian conflict, is another moslem conflict with 'local' infidels.




As per the directives of Allah;


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter?...."
Koran 9.38,39






".....which deceiveth the whole world:"




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #3 - Jul 12th, 2014 at 12:18am
 
Israel was promised by God himself to the Jews.

All you need for proof is the Bible.   Grin
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Reply #4 - Jul 12th, 2014 at 2:28am
 
There is a peck order and human communities need to respect that.
The owners of lumps of concrete need to realise they are lower in the peck order than the owners of tanks.
You deserve a Darwin Award for throwing a rock at a tank.
Mother Earth doesn't need stupid people like the Palestinians. The other middle eastern nations despise them as well. They need to wisen up and stop relying on Jewish good will for their survival,
If I was in a tank and someone threw a rock at me, he'd get a burst of machine gun fire to his belly. I'd see it as my duty to rid the world of such stupidity,
I'm amazed the Jews are so gentlemanly about it, the Palestinians are always acting in a warlike fashion. They should be met with overwhelming force, my only criticism of Israel is they are a bit soft when consistent firm discipline is needed with these tantrum throwing grubs
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Reply #5 - Jul 12th, 2014 at 11:46am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2014 at 12:18am:

Israel was promised by God himself to the Jews.


All you need for proof is the Bible.   Grin



THE PROMISE [to be taken into the presence of God], was made to those who love, and obey God.



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'All you need for proof is the Bible.'


bobby,

Surrounding moslem nations have been assailing Israel - since 1948.

Today, Israel exists, is strong, and is thriving.



Israel - proof that God exists.

Israel - proof that the Bible is God's word.







Luke 21:24
........and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

1948, 1967


Luke 21:28
And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.






Isaiah 43:1
But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.
2  When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee.
3  For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
4  Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable, and I have loved thee: therefore will I give men for thee, and people for thy life.
5  Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west;
6  I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;
7  Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.



1948

Isaiah 66:8
Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.


Jeremiah 23:7
Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8  But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.




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In contrast with Israel,
          every moslem nation in the region is in disarray and is being rent apart with internal - moslem - conflicts.

Why so ?

Aren't the moslems, the people who are blessed by Allah, their god -
...as a reward to moslems, for their righteousness, FOR BEING MOSLEMS ?





ISRAEL....

Genesis 12:3
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee....

Genesis 27:29
....cursed be every one that curseth thee, and blessed be he that blesseth thee.

Numbers 24:9
....Blessed is he that blesseth thee, and cursed is he that curseth thee.







Moslems have been deceived
          ...by their own jealousy and self-pride.

And moslems have been cursed, BY GOD - because of their wicked enmity towards their brothers, Israel.



ISLAM is a false religion.

Mohammed is a false [self-serving] prophet.

Moslems are slaves,
         to a false and wicked spirit.


Galatians
4:22  For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23  But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24  Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25  For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26  But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27  For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28  Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29  But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30  Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31  So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.



The blessing [of God], is with the children of Isaac [and Jacob - ISRAEL].

Genesis 21:10
Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.
11  And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.
12  And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.




....Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

Exodus 4:22



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Re: Should Israel bomb/invade Gaza ?
Reply #6 - Jul 12th, 2014 at 2:19pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2014 at 12:18am:
Israel was promised by God himself to the Jews.

All you need for proof is the Bible.   Grin


I guess you want a letter from God  Grin
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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years  after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin Grin Grin Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.
 
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Reply #7 - Jul 12th, 2014 at 2:26pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2014 at 2:28am:
There is a peck order and human communities need to respect that.
The owners of lumps of concrete need to realise they are lower in the peck order than the owners of tanks.
You deserve a Darwin Award for throwing a rock at a tank.
Mother Earth doesn't need stupid people like the Palestinians. The other middle eastern nations despise them as well. They need to wisen up and stop relying on Jewish good will for their survival,
If I was in a tank and someone threw a rock at me, he'd get a burst of machine gun fire to his belly. I'd see it as my duty to rid the world of such stupidity,
I'm amazed the Jews are so gentlemanly about it, the Palestinians are always acting in a warlike fashion. They should be met with overwhelming force, my only criticism of Israel is they are a bit soft when consistent firm discipline is needed with these tantrum throwing grubs


I have to agree here it is a bit ridiculous to say the least. Almost every country has been fought over and won no matter how the confrontation came about. Yet all we hear again and again is the how the so called rich Palestinian culture was invaded  by Jews when there was no such place called Palestine historically and don't roll out Philistine either because that aint it. Have it out , with them they obviously want a fisty cuffs and may the best man win.

If someone shot rockets at my country and they were a few nomads hiding in rabble I'd concrete their place and make a roller rink out of it.
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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years  after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin Grin Grin Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.
 
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Reply #8 - Jul 12th, 2014 at 2:39pm
 
Yadda - your posts are too long to read.
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They seem easily and quickly readable to me.
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Air is provided by God, not the muslim fictitious one, enjoy it while you can.
 
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Reply #10 - Jul 12th, 2014 at 4:42pm
 
Should Israel bomb/invade Gaza ?


I think they already have.,.. sorry your too late.
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Reply #11 - Jul 12th, 2014 at 4:57pm
 
half a dozen well placed nukes would solve half the worlds problems .....
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #12 - Jul 12th, 2014 at 5:18pm
 
The first one should be on Israel!!

The new NAZI's,

Their German masters trained them well!!
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Reply #13 - Jul 12th, 2014 at 6:00pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 12th, 2014 at 12:18am:

Israel was promised by God himself to the Jews.


All you need for proof is the Bible.   Grin



Men like yourself are so clever!

Haha!!!!!

It is to laugh, bobby.



Isaiah 66:3
.....Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.


Psalms 2





Short enough for you bobby ?

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Reply #14 - Jul 12th, 2014 at 6:17pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 12th, 2014 at 5:18pm:
The first one should be on Israel!!

The new NAZI's,

Their German masters trained them well!!


It's the Muslims that their Nazi Masters trained well, stay off the juice old boy.

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