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Re: Brisbane hits coldest temp in 103 years
Reply #30 - Jul 15th, 2014 at 3:51am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:33am:
I always find deniers interesting.
IN that if it gets too cold on just one day, oh well global warming is bunk. But if it gets too hot on one day in summer, thats just Aussie weather.

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Sorry to laugh. It is just when I read the first line, I wondered what on earth stockings had to do with it (as in 15 denier etc).
Got it on the second pass though, don't worry. Wink

One day of any sort of weather, hot or cold, doesn't prove a thing. It is the longer term trends that matter.
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Re: Brisbane hits coldest temp in 103 years
Reply #31 - Jul 15th, 2014 at 6:59am
 
sherri wrote on Jul 15th, 2014 at 3:51am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:33am:
I always find deniers interesting.
IN that if it gets too cold on just one day, oh well global warming is bunk. But if it gets too hot on one day in summer, thats just Aussie weather.

Grin Grin Grin
Sorry to laugh. It is just when I read the first line, I wondered what on earth stockings had to do with it (as in 15 denier etc).
Got it on the second pass though, don't worry. Wink

One day of any sort of weather, hot or cold, doesn't prove a thing. It is the longer term trends that matter.

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the book im reading is also historical in the fact that it records many droughts throughout his life and that of Australia...

we have a drought now and the loopy's go banana's about climate change...

but there was severe droughts in the late 1800, early 1900 - 03, umm around 1910 - 11.... 1917 to 20... 1927 to 30... massive floods in 1933

and not just a little drought... a drought that killed 10s of thousands of sheep and cattle... on one of his stations they put 45,000 sheep through the shearing shed... the following year only 6000 due to the drought

the last real bad drought in Victoria that I can remember was around the time of Ash Wednesday and was the major cause for such a severe fire...

the land was dry and dead... farmers were shooting their stock as they couldn't feed them... then wham... 180 fires across the state of vic and south east SA... 1983


so if you want to compare climate from now to 100 to 120 years ago... our climate now is both cooler and weter...
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Re: Brisbane hits coldest temp in 103 years
Reply #32 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 12:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 8:51pm:
Kytro wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 4:53pm:
Swagman wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:29am:
Kytro wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:32am:
No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW.


So AGWT is a con then?




Natural being not man made

..here we go!  Cool Cool ...it's a circle party..

Man isn't part of nature?    Undecided

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Re: Brisbane hits coldest temp in 103 years
Reply #33 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 12:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 8:51pm:
Kytro wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 4:53pm:
Swagman wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:29am:
Kytro wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:32am:
No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW.


So AGWT is a con then?




Natural being not man made

  Undecided

..here we go!  Cool Cool ...it's a circle party..

Man isn't part of nature? 
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Re: Brisbane hits coldest temp in 103 years
Reply #34 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 12:24pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 8:51pm:
Kytro wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 4:53pm:
Swagman wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:29am:
Kytro wrote on Jul 13th, 2014 at 8:32am:
No, increased thermal energy over decades (that cannot be explained by natural events alone) = AGW.


So AGWT is a con then?




Natural being not man made



Man isn't part of nature?    Undecided



Of course we are, but the context the word was used in should have been sufficient to explain the concept.

"existing in nature and not made or caused by people : coming from nature" is one definition, and the one I was alluding to. Let's not argue of semantics here.
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Re: Brisbane hits coldest temp in 103 years
Reply #35 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 1:48pm
 
sherri wrote on Jul 15th, 2014 at 3:51am:
I wondered what on earth stockings had to do with it (as in 15 denier etc).


Ha...probably the same as CO2.... Grin
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Re: Brisbane hits coldest temp in 103 years
Reply #36 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 9:49pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:47am:
Because Temperature is not the 'Heat Content' of a system. Temperature is a local indicator of the 'Heat Content' but like has been mentioned many many many times before the earth is so big and the distribution of land mass so different that even the two hemisphere have different average temperatures!

The two poles of the earth are completely different and thus, whilst some similarities exist between the hemisphere much is different and it is this initial difference that creates even more difference when local topography and sea currents combine with local air currents and what... it's a long story here mate.. should I continue  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Another way to explain the situation is to use an extreme example. Say, had the United States launched 100 nuclear missiles into the North Pacific Ocean right now, and detonated the weapons underwater. This would lead to an underwater flash boiling of massive amounts of ocean water, and lead to an area of hot humid air in that part of the world. The thing is, it doesn't affect just that area of the world, it also conflicts with usual weather patterns across the region. When the sun goes down on the region, it's still hot during the night, and it still steams the area. Whilst northern hemisphere regions surrounding bears the brunt of warmer humid weather, the hot air causes cold antarctic air to travel further north and affect areas (generally tropical) of the southern hemisphere that usually doesn't experience cold weather.

An example of this is when the French tested nuclear weapons in 1995 in the Pacific. Several days after the explosions, Australia and New Zealand had weather patterns inconsistent with usual patterns. I believe that the heavier rainfall along the east coast was earlier than predicted. I would surmise that it could have enhanced an early winter in the northern hemisphere.

I know the environmental science behind all this. But the global warming conspiracists seem to think that the earth is in a constant state of warming, when we seem to see a general balance of hot and cold weather systems. Personally, I think we have a joke of a cold snap to say that 2.6 degrees is cold. We have that weather here every year, and even down to freezing in Rockhampton.
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Re: Brisbane hits coldest temp in 103 years
Reply #37 - Jul 17th, 2014 at 12:11pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 14th, 2014 at 11:33am:
I always find deniers interesting. IN that if it gets too cold on just one day, oh well global warming is bunk. But if it gets too hot on one day in summer, thats just Aussie weather.


I find climate hysterics fascinating. if it is cold it is ACC. If it is hot it is ACC. if it is wet it is ACC, if it is dry it is ACC. If the official figures say temperatures are not rising then they are in fact, still rising.

idiots. fools.  every one of them
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Re: Brisbane hits coldest temp in 103 years
Reply #38 - Jul 17th, 2014 at 3:13pm
 
The climate is always bloody changing. Like the 70 year old 20 years ago claiming that it was just as hot in his younger days as it is now. He said that the only change is the fact that we are spoiled with air conditioning and cold water on demand. We are just not toughing it out as the people of previous generations were. They still had 44+ degree temperatures, only that they had to endure it without complaint. These days, climate hysterics and their chicken little counterparts are claiming that it's hot because the earth is warming up. Realistically, they are just soft ****s who can't handle getting out of the aircon, and out into the sun.
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Re: Brisbane hits coldest temp in 103 years
Reply #39 - Jul 17th, 2014 at 9:17pm
 
Did the cold snap kill off any of the cane toads?
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Reply #40 - Jul 17th, 2014 at 9:18pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 17th, 2014 at 3:13pm:
The climate is always bloody changing. Like the 70 year old 20 years ago claiming that it was just as hot in his younger days as it is now. He said that the only change is the fact that we are spoiled with air conditioning and cold water on demand. We are just not toughing it out as the people of previous generations were. They still had 44+ degree temperatures, only that they had to endure it without complaint. These days, climate hysterics and their chicken little counterparts are claiming that it's hot because the earth is warming up. Realistically, they are just soft ****s who can't handle getting out of the aircon, and out into the sun.


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