gandalf wrote:
Quote:Islam over the last 14 centuries has brought dignity and meaning to millions of drab and impoverished lives. It has created a great civilization that has gone through several different phases in several different countries. It is now going through a major crisis, and it could go either way. It could descend into a fanatical tyranny, which would be devastating for Muslims and a threat to the rest of the world. Or they may succeed in developing their own brand of democracy. When we talk about the possibility of democracy in the Islamic world, it doesnt have to be our kind. Our kind results from our own history and institutions. Its not a universal model. They can, and I think will, develop their own brand of democracy, by which I mean limited, civilized, responsible government. And there are signs of that.
Well gandalf a reformation of islamic society / religion / politics would require you to question where islam / allah / muhammad / qur'an has positioned you today 2014.
You can stay in the 7th century quiet easily, by simply not acknowledging the many flawed evil verses, commands, teachings and tenets of the above aggregate.
Then again you can admit to the above flaws, of course this would mean the end of islam.
So you are between the rock and the hard place: keep lying to yourself, saying that islam / allah / muhammad / quran are perfect examples of teachings, commands, verses and tenets for mankind, then you stay in your barbaric 7th century islamic world.
Or
Admit to the faults and failings of islam, it's satanic deity, it's psychopathic founder, it's satanic verses: E.G. the collapse of islam.