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Re: Christian Misogyny
Reply #15 - Jul 15^th, 2014 at 5:33am

hermoine wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 12:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 12:35pm:

hermoine wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

That's in the past. Muslims are still doing it.

Those Christian teachings are still being taught as part of the Bible and are evident in Christian attitudes towards women. Women cannot be ordained, they cannot give services in mainstream Christian churches. In some of the odder sects, such as the Exclusive Brethren believe women should be completely subservient to their husbands. That is today, not yesterday. Grin

At least they can show their hair, leave the house when they want, wear what they want, inherit money, get a divorce without a males consent, marry outside their religion without threat of death, marry who they want, don't get treated like a second class member of the family etc etc etc.

So basically you are saying its okay because they arent muslim?

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Re: Christian Misogyny
Reply #16 - Jul 15^th, 2014 at 11:04am

I see that the Anglican Synod today FINALLY, 2,000 years after Christ preached the equality of the sexes, has decided to allow women to become Bishops. Amazing that a Church which has a female at it's head took so long to do this. That misogynist teaching is obviously harder to overcome than it seems. Now, I wonder how soon before we see female priests in the Catholic and other denominations? I won't be holding my breath! Grin

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Re: Christian Misogyny
Reply #17 - Jul 15^th, 2014 at 8:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:24pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 3:34pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Christianity as a religion has been well known for it's misogyny since the beginning. While the Bible actually preaches equality for women,.....

Hot_Breath,

YES, IT DOES DOESN'T IT.

So why don't Christians obey it's teachings and implement it, Yadda? Are you suggesting they are all hypocrites? Are you confessing that modern Christianity has little to do with the real teachings of Christ? Shocked

Only in Reformed 'Christian ' countries is there a push for it.

You wouldn't have a call for the equality of the sexes from other religions.

Islam actively resists it, laffin' boy (idiotic denomination).

Islam as a whole? Funny, I didn't see much evidence of that when I was last in Indonesia or Malaysia, Soren. Have you ever stepped outside of Australia? Ever? Roll Eyes

Show us the Islamic call for the equality of the sexes.

WHo dares to say that Mohammed's rulings on inheritance are to be discarded and men and women should inherit equally?? Show, us, laffin' boy.

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Re: Christian Misogyny
Reply #18 - Jul 15^th, 2014 at 8:26pm

Soren wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 8:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:24pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 3:34pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Christianity as a religion has been well known for it's misogyny since the beginning. While the Bible actually preaches equality for women,.....

Hot_Breath,

YES, IT DOES DOESN'T IT.

So why don't Christians obey it's teachings and implement it, Yadda? Are you suggesting they are all hypocrites? Are you confessing that modern Christianity has little to do with the real teachings of Christ? Shocked

Only in Reformed 'Christian ' countries is there a push for it.

You wouldn't have a call for the equality of the sexes from other religions.

Islam actively resists it, laffin' boy (idiotic denomination).

Islam as a whole? Funny, I didn't see much evidence of that when I was last in Indonesia or Malaysia, Soren. Have you ever stepped outside of Australia? Ever? Roll Eyes

Show us the Islamic call for the equality of the sexes.

WHo dares to say that Mohammed's rulings on inheritance are to be discarded and men and women should inherit equally?? Show, us, laffin' boy.

Whom are you referring to, Soren? No religion, no society is perfect IMHO. I'm surprised though, or perhaps I shouldn't be? That you spend so much time attacking Muslims when there are so many other issues of much greater importance besetting this nation and the world.

You know, if you devoted even a fraction of your time to solving the problems of our Indigenes, they'd be fixed? Instead you waste it with all this negativity directed against one tiny, insignificant group in our society, most of whom aren't, according to what you claim, even good Muslims. Afterall, you preach an Islam so pure I suspect no one, even yourself could measure up to it. You are a true Takfari graduate of the Madrassa, Soren. Roll Eyes

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Re: Christian Misogyny
Reply #19 - Jul 15^th, 2014 at 9:04pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 8:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:24pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 3:34pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Christianity as a religion has been well known for it's misogyny since the beginning. While the Bible actually preaches equality for women,.....

Hot_Breath,

YES, IT DOES DOESN'T IT.

So why don't Christians obey it's teachings and implement it, Yadda? Are you suggesting they are all hypocrites? Are you confessing that modern Christianity has little to do with the real teachings of Christ? Shocked

Only in Reformed 'Christian ' countries is there a push for it.

You wouldn't have a call for the equality of the sexes from other religions.

Islam actively resists it, laffin' boy (idiotic denomination).

Islam as a whole? Funny, I didn't see much evidence of that when I was last in Indonesia or Malaysia, Soren. Have you ever stepped outside of Australia? Ever? Roll Eyes

Show us the Islamic call for the equality of the sexes.

WHo dares to say that Mohammed's rulings on inheritance are to be discarded and men and women should inherit equally?? Show, us, laffin' boy.

Whom are you referring to, Soren? No religion, no society is perfect IMHO. I'm surprised though, or perhaps I shouldn't be? That you spend so much time attacking Muslims when there are so many other issues of much greater importance besetting this nation and the world.

You know, if you devoted even a fraction of your time to solving the problems of our Indigenes, they'd be fixed? Instead you waste it with all this negativity directed against one tiny, insignificant group in our society, most of whom aren't, according to what you claim, even good Muslims. Afterall, you preach an Islam so pure I suspect no one, even yourself could measure up to it. You are a true Takfari graduate of the Madrassa, Soren. Roll Eyes

Buzz off pal, you are becoming ridiculous. Have you noticed the main post of this exchange??
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Christianity as a religion has been well known for it's misogyny since the beginning. While the Bible actually preaches equality for women,.....

And the responses to that.

Until I see you censoring this sort of tendentious bollocks I don't want you to come after me for pulling up idiots like that and you for making pouting or grinning excuses.

Go fumble with someone else's inner leg measurements until then. And while you are fumbling and groping, devote some thoughts to the question:

Show us the Islamic call for the equality of the sexes.

WHo dares to say that Mohammed's rulings on inheritance are to be discarded and men and women should inherit equally?? Show, us, laffin' boy.

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Re: Christian Misogyny
Reply #20 - Jul 15^th, 2014 at 10:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 8:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:24pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 3:34pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Christianity as a religion has been well known for it's misogyny since the beginning. While the Bible actually preaches equality for women,.....

Hot_Breath,

YES, IT DOES DOESN'T IT.

So why don't Christians obey it's teachings and implement it, Yadda? Are you suggesting they are all hypocrites? Are you confessing that modern Christianity has little to do with the real teachings of Christ? Shocked

Only in Reformed 'Christian ' countries is there a push for it.

You wouldn't have a call for the equality of the sexes from other religions.

Islam actively resists it, laffin' boy (idiotic denomination).

Islam as a whole? Funny, I didn't see much evidence of that when I was last in Indonesia or Malaysia, Soren. Have you ever stepped outside of Australia? Ever? Roll Eyes

Show us the Islamic call for the equality of the sexes.

WHo dares to say that Mohammed's rulings on inheritance are to be discarded and men and women should inherit equally?? Show, us, laffin' boy.

Whom are you referring to, Soren? No religion, no society is perfect IMHO. I'm surprised though, or perhaps I shouldn't be? That you spend so much time attacking Muslims when there are so many other issues of much greater importance besetting this nation and the world.

You know, if you devoted even a fraction of your time to solving the problems of our Indigenes, they'd be fixed? Instead you waste it with all this negativity directed against one tiny, insignificant group in our society, most of whom aren't, according to what you claim, even good Muslims. Afterall, you preach an Islam so pure I suspect no one, even yourself could measure up to it. You are a true Takfari graduate of the Madrassa, Soren. Roll Eyes

Soren is in the grip of irrational fear.

He's invested so much time and energy into being scared of anything that's different to him, that he no longer knows how to live a normal life.

The big bad Muslim terrorists don't have to do a thing now: they've already succeeded in destroying Soren's life.

Imagine what it's like to live in constant, irrational fear. Never knowing when a big bad Muslim is gonna knock down your front door and rape, murder, and eat your entire family.

I almost feel sorry for Soren. Almost.

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Re: Christian Misogyny
Reply #21 - Jul 15^th, 2014 at 11:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 10:58pm:

Soren is in the grip of irrational fear.

He's invested so much time and energy into being scared of anything that's different to him, that he no longer knows how to live a normal life.

The big bad Muslim terrorists don't have to do a thing now: they've already succeeded in destroying Soren's life.

Imagine what it's like to live in constant, irrational fear. Never knowing when a big bad Muslim is gonna knock down your front door and rape, murder, and eat your entire family.

I almost feel sorry for Soren. Almost.

These people also suffered irrational fear according to groggery.

Groggery as per usual has no idea what he is talking about and is just a troll.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139050 Gender:	Re: Christian Misogyny Reply #22 - Jul 15^th, 2014 at 11:35pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 8:26pm: You are a true Takfari graduate of the Madrassa, Soren. That's the first time Soren has been accused of graduating anything.
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Re: Christian Misogyny
Reply #23 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 12:23am

Soren wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 9:04pm:

Buzz off pal, you are becoming ridiculous.

What's wrong, Soren, is your bigotry showing again? Getting a little rattled when I question your raison d'être here? Who are you to determine if I can post or not here? Mmm? Roll Eyes

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Have you noticed the main post of this exchange??

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Christianity as a religion has been well known for it's misogyny since the beginning. While the Bible actually preaches equality for women,.....

And the responses to that.

Yes, I've noticed it. You however appear to have some sort of problem with a factual statement like that. What's wrong forgotten Matthew 7:3?

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Until I see you censoring this sort of tendentious bollocks I don't want you to come after me for pulling up idiots like that and you for making pouting or grinning excuses.

Why should I censor it? It's factually correct. Do you feel you need to censor history because you find it unpalatable 'cause it's about your religion? Is the truth unacceptable to you? Roll Eyes

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Go fumble with someone else's inner leg measurements until then. And while you are fumbling and groping, devote some thoughts to the question:

Show us the Islamic call for the equality of the sexes.

WHo dares to say that Mohammed's rulings on inheritance are to be discarded and men and women should inherit equally?? Show, us, laffin' boy.

I do, Soren. You do. Some Muslims do. Sh'ria was designed for an Arabic society 1400 years ago. It doesn't really work too well nowadays. Modernist Muslims realise that and simply ignore the tenants that don't suit them. Rather in the way Christians do, with their religion.

Tell us, Soren, have you touched any pig leather lately? Worn cloth of different weaves?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139050 Gender:	Re: Christian Misogyny Reply #24 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 12:26am Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 12:23am: Tell us, Soren, have you touched any pig leather lately? Of course. He gave the wife a bit of a slap and tickle just last night.
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Grand Duke Imam Mahdi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 564 Gender:	Re: Christian Misogyny Reply #25 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 12:29am One id will suffice. Why be a troll greg you contribute nothing ?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139050 Gender:	Re: Christian Misogyny Reply #26 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 12:34am Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 12:23am: What's wrong, Soren, is your bigotry showing again? Getting a little rattled when I question your raison d'être here? He gets rattled quite easily. As do most of the irrational bigots on this forum. I find it very entertaining.
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Grand Duke Imam Mahdi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 564 Gender:	Re: Christian Misogyny Reply #27 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 12:36am Why be a troll greg you contribute nothing ?
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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Christian Misogyny Reply #28 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 1:19pm Grand Duke Imam Mahdi wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 12:36am: Why be a troll greg you contribute nothing ? Repeating the same lie doesn't make it any truer. You are a troll. Go away.
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Re: Christian Misogyny
Reply #29 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 2:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 12:23am:

Soren wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 9:04pm:

Show us the Islamic call for the equality of the sexes.

WHo dares to say that Mohammed's rulings on inheritance are to be discarded and men and women should inherit equally?? Show, us, laffin' boy.

I do, Soren. You do. Some Muslims do. Sh'ria was designed for an Arabic society 1400 years ago. It doesn't really work too well nowadays. Modernist Muslims realise that and simply ignore the tenants that don't suit them. Rather in the way Christians do, with their religion.

You are not showing us the Islamic call for the equality of the sexes, you are not showing the Islamic rejection of Mohammed's rulings on differential inheritance.

I am not asking you to tell me that there are apostates or others who reject Islam wholly or in parts. I know sharia is outdated - yet it is spreading in Muslim majority countries and Muslim minorities in the west are calling for its introduction for... er... family law matters, to start with (ie to differentiate between men and women).

I am asking you to show us the ISLAMIC call for equality of the sexes, the ISLAMIC call to equality before the law which is a direct opposite of Mohammed's rulings in matters of inheritance, for example..

As for the Christian call for the equality of the sexes - Anglican and Uniting Church bishops are good examples.
For equality of the sexes before the law, including inheritance matters - see the Western legal system as a whole and in every particular: secular, based on the principle of equality before the law.

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