Where is the call of the Christian religion for equality?

Note that, the Christian religion Soren, not the Bible's, not the call of Christians but the call the organised religion has made and answered itself for equality, within the religion.

What?  It's absent?  Colour me amazed.  Where the female Catholic priests?  Female Catholic bishops, cardinals?     Eastern Orthodox equivalents?  Other Protestant denominations?  Nearly all absent and they have been absent for the best part of 2,000 years.   So, perhaps you need to look to your own saucepan's bottom before you start to criticise the Muslim Kettle's.   

Are you denying the rich history of Christian misogyny, Soren?   

Today, the Protestant denominations are changing.  Catholics have a long way to go, to even recognising they have a problem, let alone ordaining women.  The Eastern Orthodox Churches are even more conservative in many ways.  Then there are the Christian fundamentalists, whom prefer their women "barefoot and pregnant".

2,000 years, Soren, its taken Christianity to even recognise women as something other than evil, tempters in league with the Devil. Hardly a proud record.  Of course, you can blame it all on the Muslims and try and be an apologist for Christianity's sorry record on the subject, Soren, as you already have in this thread...     

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 7:10pm:


Change.

The ability to change. That's the key in this discussion. The West can change and improve. Church and the secular public sphere are separated. There is no call to return to 1st century Judean practices.
Most importantly, the West has freedom and human dignity as its central ideas both of its religion, Christianity, and its secular scientific, rational mind set. And that is because these are fundamental Christian ideas, wholly absent from other religions, not least Islam.
Secularism, freedom and equal human dignity has not emerged elsewhere organically, from the various other traditions around the world. It is present, if it is, only because of imitations of the West.


Anyway, show us the Islamic call for equality between the sexes, at least before the law, if not in the mosque.

WHere is the Islamic groundswell for the recognition of women's dignity and freedom?

Or at least where is the groundswell to separate the Islamic doctrines from the secular, civil, legal life of Muslims.

Don't bother - there is no such groundswell of apostasy. There is quiet leaving of Islam but public agitation would be treated as blasphemy and we know what happens to them in Muslim countries.


I wouldn't be bothered with any of this if it was all kept in Muslim countries. But it is forcibly exported into every country. Muslims want to introduce sharia courts for family matters - that is, to override the equality of the sexes and to treat women and girl differently. In Western secular countries.

That must be resisted and that must be spoken out against.

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 9:54pm:


Prove there was 2000 years of christian misogyny ankles ?
Islam on the other hand upsets you as an islamic apologist doesn't it ankles.

Faaair dinkum, there's some poo topics on this forum, but this one takes the cake.

Churchy nice people worship the ground women walk on - the only reason the word misogyny even exists is because shielas in christian countries haven't got anything real to complain about.

... wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:06pm:


I dunno I don't think Brain Toss is getting any at all.

Mattywisk wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:12pm:


Have I ever apologised or excused Terrorism by anybody, Matty?

You, OTOH, regularly attempt to try and claim Christian Terrorists aren't Christians, despite them claiming they are.   

So, it appears you're not attempting to deny Christianity's 2,000 years of Misogyny.  Good.  There might be hope for you yet.

Your bigoted hatred of the Jews and Christians is obvious. Yet you can add both their terror tallies together and they get dwarfed by Islamic terrorism which you continually apologize for. You are just a bigot and a troll nothing more.