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Re: Let us hope the Americanism of calling people sir
Reply #30 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:51am

ian wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 12:08am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 9:02pm:

OK, this is gonna hurt like hell: ian is 100% correct.

I don't like this "sir" business, by the way.

I was at a nice restaurant the other night and the waiters kept calling me "Sir" every five minutes.

I got so fed up with it that I decided not to order the third bottle of wine, and I left and went to the pub instead.

I detest being called "Sir".

You wouldn't like the us then, they use it constantly in service industries. Even the coppers use it, the yanks are incredibly courteous.

Doesn't stop them from shooting one another, though, does it? Grin

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Re: Let us hope the Americanism of calling people sir
Reply #31 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 11:46am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 1:38pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 1:01pm:

Respect is earned not gifted.

Wrong.

Respectful behaviour and attitude is the default position of the true gentleman. If this is later found not to be warranted, then this courtesy is abandoned as not being deserved.

No, being civil or polite is. Respect must be earned.

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Re: Let us hope the Americanism of calling people sir
Reply #32 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 12:28pm

Amadd wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Yes indeed. We can certainly be thankful that America entered WW2.

Barely any of those people are alive today. And of those who are, and having seen the horrors of war, I'll bet they'd advocate all governments to do their utmost to keep out of them.

Al-Qaeda's bin Laden was directing a campaign of mass-murder upon the people of the US from the safety of Afghanistan. If left alone he would have continued indefinitely.

There wouldn't be an old soldier who would disagree with the US taking measures to close al-Qaeda and the Taliban down in Afghanistan.

The Iraq invasion was on

I'd imagine a lot of the WW2 veterans would be a bit disappointed at the eagerness to wage war that some governments have shown.

The WMD fiasco lost me, and lest we forget that one. Not to mention the gulf of Tonkin lie.

Just because I'm greatful for the actions of one generation or government, it doesn't mean that I can't be disappointed or disgusted in the next..and visa versa.

A lot of people have died for the right to freedom...have some respect please.

And btw, where I'm currently situated, there is more WW2 history than you poke a stick at.
Just a few blocks from here, 143 US soldiers perished when the Japs poured petrol over them in an air raid shelter. Those who came running out on fire were clubbed to death, stabbed and beheaded. Only 11 escaped.
There's also many WW2 wrecks that I've dived close to here and many other memorials that makes one feel very privileged at the life I'm able to enjoy today.

It also makes me very angry when it appears to me that some governments are far too headstrong and willing to throw people's lives at a problem where there may be other avenues. [/quote]

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Re: Let us hope the Americanism of calling people sir
Reply #33 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 12:56pm

Amadd wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Yes indeed. We can certainly be thankful that America entered WW2.

Barely any of those people are alive today. And of those who are, and having seen the horrors of war, I'll bet they'd advocate all governments to do their utmost to keep out of them.

Al-Qaeda's bin Laden was directing a campaign of mass-murder upon the people of the US from the safety of Afghanistan. If left alone he would have continued indefinitely.

There wouldn't be an old soldier who would disagree with the US taking measures to close al-Qaeda and the Taliban down in Afghanistan.

Amadd wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 8:27am:

I'd imagine a lot of the WW2 veterans would be a bit disappointed at the eagerness to wage war that some governments have shown.

The WMD fiasco lost me, and lest we forget that one. Not to mention the gulf of Tonkin lie.

I agree.

I was shouted down here in this forum board when I offered the opinion that every intended war of aggression by Australia should first go to a referendum to decide yea or nay.

We not only have an unseemly glut of homosexuals on this forum board, but there is also a sizable crowd who do not believe in representative democracy. They want to be led like sheep.

Amadd wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Just a few blocks from here, 143 US soldiers perished when the Japs poured petrol over them in an air raid shelter. Those who came running out on fire were clubbed to death, stabbed and beheaded. Only 11 escaped.

People on this forum board didn't believe me when I said that all the PoWs in Japan were to be put to death the moment the allies made landfall on the Japanese mainland.

And that next to the ventilation shafts of every coal mine where PoWs were working, 44 gallon drums of petrol were kept to be poured down the shafts and set alight should that time come. The prisoners were to be prodded into the tunnels beforehand, of course.

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Re: Let us hope the Americanism of calling people sir
Reply #34 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 1:09pm

Kytro wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 11:46am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 1:38pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 15^th, 2014 at 1:01pm:

Respect is earned not gifted.

Wrong.

Respectful behaviour and attitude is the default position of the true gentleman. If this is later found not to be warranted, then this courtesy is abandoned as not being deserved.

No, being civil or polite is. Respect must be earned.

Oh, no ... My nemesis again.

Okay, Kytro, I'll do a backflip-with-half-twist-and-double-pike off the top board for you this time as I'm feeling generous and mellow after a huge meal of Scottish Kippers heated under the grill ....

"Respect is earned not gifted" ... This is true, but not in every situation.

That's my best offer.

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