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Playing on semantics gandalf to try and excuse the perversions of islam?

The qur'an instructs, condones and urges rape, torture and murder, as atrocities against hummanity.

I lump all verses which give permission to, or clearly instruct muslims to commit an atrocity as a command, for the sake of the argument.

The verse which unequivocally gives permission to rape a woman is:


qur’an 24:33 “Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. [now here is the permission gandalf] But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving.”

So according to islam, allah, muhammad, qur'an you can force a girl into whoredom, forcing a girl into prostitution is rape gandalf

Playing semantics about whether the girl was opposed to islam, or was it a command or approval to commit rape, will never detract from the fact islam is a cult which urges rape, torture and murder of their fellow man, as sanctioned doctrinal deeds for muslims. 

Gandalf, Australians are waking up. Numbers of islamic immigrants are on the decrease. No, islam is not going away, it's just going to be a smaller and smaller influence in this country. This is the only way to keep the radical element in check; either forbid islamic immigration or keep the islamic population at a very manageable/observable minimum.

Apologizing for bigotry against islam. Are you for real? Muslims perpetrate acts of murder and discord wherever they go. Really looking at muslim immigration is the logical reaction to a group of people who cause more problems internationally than they're worth. Of course, a person can think about that or just come up with a whole bunch of pc buzz words like bigot, hater, racist, islamophobe etc. Whichever's more covenient, I suppose.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 2:38pm:
The only place they'll be going to is Manus Island.

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You are being very deceitful gandalf.

Well contradictions are part and parcel of the qur'an, however:

Rape of girls is not forbidden as you say.

24.33:Force not your slave-girls to whoredom that ye may seek enjoyment of the life of the world, if they would preserve their chastity. This first part of the verse is merely suggesting not to force girls into prostitution. There is absolutely no intimation of any kind, that rape is banned or forbidden in this first part. 

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And if one force them, then after their compulsion, lo! Allah will be Forgiving, Merciful

If the first part was meant to ban or forbid rape, why does the second part give absolution and permission, by saying in effect: oh well if you do rape them allah is forgiving and merciful?

Tell me something, what is wrong with muslim mentality that you think an innocent girl who was forcefully raped, need forgiveness?

Nothing you say makes any logical sense gandalf.

There are innumerable verses which directly urge torture and murder of your fellow man, this verse which condones and sets the scene for rape to occur, fits in perfectly well with all the other verses advocating muslims have the doctrinal permission, to commit human rights atrocities of the most unspeakable kind, against their fellow man.

Why do you hide from the truth gandalf.

If you are fair dinkum about some sort of reform in islam, the very first step is to confront the evil in your theological writings, this verse is one of many malevolent evil verses in your doctrine.

You're only kidding yourself and your bootlicking flunkies the apologists.

Yes Brian we all know islam is the paradigm of peace, tolerance and spiritual divinity. 

It's one of the great mysteries of life, why muslims are what they are today, isn't it?

Got nothing to do with islam, allah, muhammad, or the qur'an has it?

I know, it's a plot by the Joos, Christians and the west, to keep muslims at the bottom of the pack, you just keep on licking muslim boots and excuse their atrocities, the world will get your message one day.

The concern for us should be how muslims behave when they emmigrate. Few would argue, accept gooey-eyed idealogues llike Brian.