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Reply #120 - Jul 18^th, 2014 at 10:41am

Sophia wrote on Jul 17^th, 2014 at 8:52pm:

GA wrote on Jul 17^th, 2014 at 6:55pm:

cods wrote on Jul 17^th, 2014 at 6:42pm:

[quote author=GA link=1405464642/94#94 date=1405585564]It's not as though she's the only women that has ever died. And it's the children that are the big losers, as they've lost both their parents.

And I'm wondering, when the Jodi Arias trial resumes, is it going to get it's own thread? Or is it that only only when a man commits a crime against a women (or children) that this happens. All of the 'X' dominated 'fear-males' here getting all emotional?

Keep this in mind, Allison Baden-Clay's life was taken by an individual, it wasn't the action of a husband, not the action of a man or even a psychopath, as these three types of people are too common in the community in relation to the rarity of the crime to be able to be held accountable.

what the hell are you talking about???...

he wasnt married to her??? REALLY!

and who is Jodi Arias...

If him being a husband had anything in itself to do with the crime, we'd expect many thousands of wives to be murdered daily, dummy.

And exactly, you don't know who Jodi Arias is because she is a women. You know who Oscar Pistorius & Baden-Clay is because they're a males and that gets the real TV coverage, guaranteed, as they're bearers of the 'Y' chromosome.

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What does this case from the USA have to do with the Oz case we are discussing in this thread?
I would say there are that many cases in the USA, wouldn't have a clue about this Jodi Arias, but by reading on wiki link that was provided by Neferti, sounds like this Jodi was a schitzo, stalking the poor bloke, hacking into his facebook, slashing his tyers, stealing a gun from her grandparents home, taking photos of their sex before she killed him and in his own place! (from photos recovered whilst she tried to destroy the digi cam in the washing machine).
This case speaks for itself.

The Jodi Arias trial was put forward as an example only of an event we here in Aussieland aren't all that interested in. And why we don't want to know about her is because we don't get pleasure seeing a woman being punished. This over emotional side of ours is deciding the direction of society, and therefore deserves to be a political topic, I believe.

So, what it has to do with the Baden Clay thread is to do with the politics involved. I mean you know who Oscar Pistorius is, but don't know who Jodi Arias is. The reason being that she is a woman. That to me relates to the politics of the situation. The 'lefts' perspective's increasing domination of media issues.

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"sounds like this Jodi was a schitzo, stalking the poor bloke, hacking into his facebook, slashing his tyers, stealing a gun from her grandparents home, taking photos of their sex before she killed him and in his own place! (from photos recovered whilst she tried to destroy the digi cam in the washing machine).
This case speaks for itself."

This is an example of why we should never let the public have any say in deciding these things, and is also why long legal trials are sometimes needed if justice is to be carried out. I mean, despite JA claiming self defense and using a knife and a gun that she'd brought with her, it can easily be argued that the crime itself was 'not' premeditated. But if her defense fails to do a good job of defending her (now that she has already been found guilty), she may get the death penalty.

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We don't have the death penalty in Oz, so don't know why this case has to come up in comparison with the Baden-Clay situation.

The death penalty in the US has been issue here before, I believe? And SA doesn't have the death penalty either.

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Re: R.I.P. Allison Baden-Clay
Reply #121 - Jul 18^th, 2014 at 11:03am

GA wrote on Jul 17^th, 2014 at 6:55pm:

cods wrote on Jul 17^th, 2014 at 6:42pm:

GA wrote on Jul 17^th, 2014 at 6:26pm:

It's not as though she's the only women that has ever died. And it's the children that are the big losers, as they've lost both their parents.

And I'm wondering, when the Jodi Arias trial resumes, is it going to get it's own thread? Or is it that only only when a man commits a crime against a women (or children) that this happens. All of the 'X' dominated 'fear-males' here getting all emotional?

Keep this in mind, Allison Baden-Clay's life was taken by an individual, it wasn't the action of a husband, not the action of a man or even a psychopath, as these three types of people are too common in the community in relation to the rarity of the crime to be able to be held accountable.

what the hell are you talking about???...

he wasnt married to her??? REALLY!

and who is Jodi Arias...

If him being a husband had anything in itself to do with the crime, we'd expect many thousands of wives to be murdered daily, dummy.

And exactly, you don't know who Jodi Arias is because she is a women. You know who Oscar Pistorius & Baden-Clay is because they're a males and that gets the real TV coverage, guaranteed, as they're bearers of the 'Y' chromosome.

I dont care to be called a dummy thank you...

and if you care to look at some stats you will find that most people who are murdered are by someone they are related too...

its got not a thing to do with male female... whether it makes the media.. Pistorious is famous like OJ they just happen to me MALE..

if a famous female killed her husband/partner she too would be headlines..In countries like America and South Africa they are telecast...

what do you think makes them headlines.????

ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE MALES>>

history has it recorded sadly men do out number females when it comes to murder....

more husbands kill wives than wives kill husbands...

is that somehow the MEDIAS FAULT?

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Reply #122 - Jul 18^th, 2014 at 11:06am

GA wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 10:41am:

his is an example of why we should never let the public have any say in deciding these things, and is also why long legal trials are needed if justice is to be carried out. I mean, despite JA claiming self defense and using a knife and a gun that she'd brought with her, it can easily be argued that the crime itself was 'not' premeditated. But if her defense fails to do a good job of defending her (now that she has already been found guilty), she may get the death penalty

I have news for you sunshine..
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THE PUBLIC DOESNT HAVE A SAY IN THE OUTCOME OF ANY TRIAL....

this is a public forum but its still only for its members...I doubt very much any jury would be studying public forums..

get your facts right..people on here are voicing opinions just like neighbours do...they are not influencing anything....and as we see after many trials all sorts of things come out about the murderer...things that BY LAW are not in the media before the case is dealt with.

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Reply #123 - Jul 18^th, 2014 at 11:40am

cods wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 11:03am:

GA wrote on Jul 17^th, 2014 at 6:55pm:

cods wrote on Jul 17^th, 2014 at 6:42pm:

GA wrote on Jul 17^th, 2014 at 6:26pm:

It's not as though she's the only women that has ever died. And it's the children that are the big losers, as they've lost both their parents.

And I'm wondering, when the Jodi Arias trial resumes, is it going to get it's own thread? Or is it that only only when a man commits a crime against a women (or children) that this happens. All of the 'X' dominated 'fear-males' here getting all emotional?

Keep this in mind, Allison Baden-Clay's life was taken by an individual, it wasn't the action of a husband, not the action of a man or even a psychopath, as these three types of people are too common in the community in relation to the rarity of the crime to be able to be held accountable.

what the hell are you talking about???...

he wasnt married to her??? REALLY!

and who is Jodi Arias...

If him being a husband had anything in itself to do with the crime, we'd expect many thousands of wives to be murdered daily, dummy.

And exactly, you don't know who Jodi Arias is because she is a women. You know who Oscar Pistorius & Baden-Clay is because they're a males and that gets the real TV coverage, guaranteed, as they're bearers of the 'Y' chromosome.

I dont care to be called a dummy thank you...

Then don't make it look like 'I' don't know what I'm on about. The 'husband' factor was only incidental to the crime itself, which my understanding had to do with money and infidelity.

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and if you care to look at some stats you will find that most people who are murdered are by someone they are related too...

A statistic police consider first. But not something we should worry about, having relatives might make the chance of being harmed more likely, statistically only. It's not the 'relative' that is the factor itself, but is that person's circumstances & personality that's responsible for the crime, is what I'm saying. Whereas the inference that can easily be had is 'husbands and relatives' need be feared, from what you are implying.

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its got not a thing to do with male female... whether it makes the media.. Pistorious is famous like OJ they just happen to be MALE..

if a famous female killed her husband/partner she too would be headlines..In countries like America and South Africa they are telecast...

what do you think makes them headlines.????

Baden-Clay wasn't famous. And 'Oscar Pistorius' gets 6 million + hits on Google, Jodi Arias 3+ million hits.

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ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE MALES>>

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history has it recorded sadly men do out number females when it comes to murder....

more husbands kill wives than wives kill husbands...

is that somehow the MEDIAS FAULT?

It is not the 'husband' that is the factor, it's the individual that's responsible. And statistics like that can generally be ignored, and that's because a man (leaving hormonal influences out of the argument) is generally 'bigger', and therefore more capable of killing his partner, than she killing him. We can't rely on statistics if we are going to avoid being mislead, is the point.

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Reply #124 - Jul 18^th, 2014 at 11:44am

cods wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 11:06am:

GA wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 10:41am:

his is an example of why we should never let the public have any say in deciding these things, and is also why long legal trials are needed if justice is to be carried out. I mean, despite JA claiming self defense and using a knife and a gun that she'd brought with her, it can easily be argued that the crime itself was 'not' premeditated. But if her defense fails to do a good job of defending her (now that she has already been found guilty), she may get the death penalty

I have news for you sunshine..
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THE PUBLIC DOESNT HAVE A SAY IN THE OUTCOME OF ANY TRIAL....

this is a public forum but its still only for its members...I doubt very much any jury would be studying public forums..

get your facts right..people on here are voicing opinions just like neighbours do...they are not influencing anything....and as we see after many trials all sorts of things come out about the murderer...things that BY LAW are not in the media before the case is dealt with.

Penalties being handed out are increasingly reflecting the public wishes rather than what is appropriate. You get your facts straight, 'sunshine'.

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Reply #126 - Jul 18^th, 2014 at 1:03pm

GA wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

cods wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 11:06am:

GA wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 10:41am:

his is an example of why we should never let the public have any say in deciding these things, and is also why long legal trials are needed if justice is to be carried out. I mean, despite JA claiming self defense and using a knife and a gun that she'd brought with her, it can easily be argued that the crime itself was 'not' premeditated. But if her defense fails to do a good job of defending her (now that she has already been found guilty), she may get the death penalty

I have news for you sunshine..
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THE PUBLIC DOESNT HAVE A SAY IN THE OUTCOME OF ANY TRIAL....

this is a public forum but its still only for its members...I doubt very much any jury would be studying public forums..

get your facts right..people on here are voicing opinions just like neighbours do...they are not influencing anything....and as we see after many trials all sorts of things come out about the murderer...things that BY LAW are not in the media before the case is dealt with.

Penalties being handed out are increasingly reflecting the public wishes rather than what is appropriate. You get your facts straight, 'sunshine'.

REALLY.........not that I have seen... but you sound like you have inside info...so can you perhaps show me where this has taken place..

LAWS get changed by pressure......BUT THAT DOESNT ALWAYS MEAN IT APPLIES TO THE COURTS...

how many people spend LIFE in jail???...

I dont know about you.. but LIFE means to me they come out in a coffin..

as far as I know we do not have too many that will do that.....

Baden Clay will be lucky to serve 15 years should his appeal be dismissed....

we have a sick justice system... we even have judges telling us in the future we will be accepting incest... Roll Eyes

..because we now accept gays......makes sense to some.

its judges that abuse the system and they dont give a sh!t about the public and what it wants.

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Reply #127 - Jul 18^th, 2014 at 1:08pm

red baron wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Of course Australians are going to be more interested in Australian homicides rather than those occurring overseas. Occasionally a sensational case overseas captures our attention.

If we were to talk about all the homicides overseas, as well as home grown, this site would run out of space.

silly sausage can make his own thread.. who cares...this thread was about saying goodbye to Allison whos life was cut short..

I read a lot of books on murderers mostly American and you are right.. there wouldnt be enough room on any forum to mention them all...horrific numbers..and the latest where the male shot his own children in the back of their heads...is something I cannot come to grips with there is nothing that can excuse that..there is no punishment that will change that or make anything better...

the sickness out there is growing worse..

and the gun brigade sit back and polish their nails...

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Reply #128 - Jul 18^th, 2014 at 2:36pm

red baron wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Of course Australians are going to be more interested in Australian homicides rather than those occurring overseas. Occasionally a sensational case overseas captures our attention.

If we were to talk about all the homicides overseas, as well as home grown, this site would run out of space.

We are talking about the vilification of men (and males generally), not crime itself. And all of this chivalrous stuff we are seeing here from crap factories like Cods, is really just that a load of crap. If AB-C had murdered her husband, instead of him murdering her, it would have been less of a story (and she would probably get less than ten years jail when she was convicted). Now, I'm not complaining about the disparities involved, only pointing to an anti-male trend, which although being part of a natural tendency, is still a dangerous direction to be taking.

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Reply #129 - Jul 18^th, 2014 at 4:18pm

GA wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

red baron wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Of course Australians are going to be more interested in Australian homicides rather than those occurring overseas. Occasionally a sensational case overseas captures our attention.

If we were to talk about all the homicides overseas, as well as home grown, this site would run out of space.

We are talking about the vilification of men (and males generally), not crime itself. And all of this chivalrous stuff we are seeing here from crap factories like Cods, is really just that a load of crap. If AB-C had murdered her husband, instead of him murdering her, it would have been less of a story (and she would probably get less than ten years jail when she was convicted). Now, I'm not complaining about the disparities involved, only pointing to an anti-male trend, which although being part of a natural tendency, is still a dangerous direction to be taking.

I think your basic premise is right. If a man kills a woman, the tears are jerked. It does not happen when a woman kills a man.

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Reply #130 - Jul 18^th, 2014 at 9:45pm

cods wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 1:03pm:

GA wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

cods wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 11:06am:

GA wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 10:41am:

his is an example of why we should never let the public have any say in deciding these things, and is also why long legal trials are needed if justice is to be carried out. I mean, despite JA claiming self defense and using a knife and a gun that she'd brought with her, it can easily be argued that the crime itself was 'not' premeditated. But if her defense fails to do a good job of defending her (now that she has already been found guilty), she may get the death penalty

I have news for you sunshine..
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THE PUBLIC DOESNT HAVE A SAY IN THE OUTCOME OF ANY TRIAL....

this is a public forum but its still only for its members...I doubt very much any jury would be studying public forums..

get your facts right..people on here are voicing opinions just like neighbours do...they are not influencing anything....and as we see after many trials all sorts of things come out about the murderer...things that BY LAW are not in the media before the case is dealt with.

Penalties being handed out are increasingly reflecting the public wishes rather than what is appropriate. You get your facts straight, 'sunshine'.

REALLY.........not that I have seen... but you sound like you have inside info...so can you perhaps show me where this has taken place..

LAWS get changed by pressure......BUT THAT DOESNT ALWAYS MEAN IT APPLIES TO THE COURTS...

how many people spend LIFE in jail???...

I dont know about you.. but LIFE means to me they come out in a coffin..

as far as I know we do not have too many that will do that.....

Baden Clay will be lucky to serve 15 years should his appeal be dismissed....

we have a sick justice system... we even have judges telling us in the future we will be accepting incest... Roll Eyes

..because we now accept gays......makes sense to some.

its judges that abuse the system and they dont give a sh!t about the public and what it wants.

There are members of the general public that do make the decisions in a court after all the evidence is presented, when they are called in to do 'jury duty'....randomly selected people, yes, from the general public, from all walks of life and backgrounds.

As for any of my comments on some random murder in another country, from the only evidence I am allowed to read that is open to the public, is all I, or anyone else, can comment on, capice GA?

Re: America and all their murders.....and Australia, are like poles apart. Is the general whole of America interested in what happens in Oz? (let along know where we are on the world map?)....
Their population is over 317 million, with an average of 2000 cops being killed in the line of duty per annum.
Our population is in Oz is about 23 million, with an average of 2 cops being killed in the line of duty per annum.

I would say America have more than enough worries without having to worry about other countries as such.

This is why each country have their own laws, but not always the same as each other, heck, even in the US of A, different states have different laws, one state will have the death penalty, whilst another won't.

I consider Australia as a big country town, where anything that happens in any State, we seem more rocked by the news, and tuned in, and it just makes us think of it more.
In Amercia, they have so much of it happening, it's just 'another day, another murder'. Their cup runneth over.

As for men seemingly being vilified more, I don't know about that, Lindy Chamberlain for instance, was very vilified.

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Reply #131 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 8:10am

Aussie wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 4:18pm:

GA wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

red baron wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Of course Australians are going to be more interested in Australian homicides rather than those occurring overseas. Occasionally a sensational case overseas captures our attention.

If we were to talk about all the homicides overseas, as well as home grown, this site would run out of space.

We are talking about the vilification of men (and males generally), not crime itself. And all of this chivalrous stuff we are seeing here from crap factories like Cods, is really just that a load of crap. If AB-C had murdered her husband, instead of him murdering her, it would have been less of a story (and she would probably get less than ten years jail when she was convicted). Now, I'm not complaining about the disparities involved, only pointing to an anti-male trend, which although being part of a natural tendency, is still a dangerous direction to be taking.

I think your basic premise is right. If a man kills a woman, the tears are jerked. It does not happen when a woman kills a man.

crap.... this is a public forum.. go make your own threads on WOMEN THAT KILL MEN>..

no one is stopping you...

for gods sake..

what a bunch of whiners...MAKE YOUR OWN THREAD>>>

SHED YOUR TEARS

I am not crying at all its a very public murder a lot of people searched for weeks to find her...same with Daniel....you become involved somehow...what the hells wrong with that.???

dont come on a thread thats about a womens murder by a man....if thats the way you feel.. GO AWAY.

talk about childish...

may I suggest you read up about Katherine Knight...she is up there with Australia worst murderers...probably the worlds worst.

and yes she did kill her husband.....maybe you could start a crying thread ...about her.

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Reply #132 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 8:18am

[quote author=Lols link=1405464642/130#130 date=1405683948]
There are members of the general public that do make the decisions in a court after all the evidence is presented, when they are called in to do 'jury duty'....randomly selected people, yes, from the general public, from all walks of life and backgrounds.[/quote]

again these people are especially chosen..from a large group.

and they do not make the decision on guilt...

they take the law and use the evidence to fit the letter of the law that is already set down...

they do not make the LAWS. as has been suggested...

if the jury gets it wrong.. or the judge.. then it goes back to court...in some cases more than once.

we have a strange system but it is fair by some standards....and of course can always be better...

the male of the species seems to me to be the most violent one.....maybe I am wrong. Sad

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Reply #133 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 10:18am

cods wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 1:03pm:

GA wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 11:44am:

cods wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 11:06am:

GA wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 10:41am:

his is an example of why we should never let the public have any say in deciding these things, and is also why long legal trials are needed if justice is to be carried out. I mean, despite JA claiming self defense and using a knife and a gun that she'd brought with her, it can easily be argued that the crime itself was 'not' premeditated. But if her defense fails to do a good job of defending her (now that she has already been found guilty), she may get the death penalty

I have news for you sunshine..
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THE PUBLIC DOESNT HAVE A SAY IN THE OUTCOME OF ANY TRIAL....

this is a public forum but its still only for its members...I doubt very much any jury would be studying public forums..

get your facts right..people on here are voicing opinions just like neighbours do...they are not influencing anything....and as we see after many trials all sorts of things come out about the murderer...things that BY LAW are not in the media before the case is dealt with.

Penalties being handed out are increasingly reflecting the public wishes rather than what is appropriate. You get your facts straight, 'sunshine'.

REALLY.........not that I have seen... but you sound like you have inside info...so can you perhaps show me where this has taken place..

LAWS get changed by pressure......BUT THAT DOESNT ALWAYS MEAN IT APPLIES TO THE COURTS...

And: We're not talking about 'laws being changed', it's the sentences handed out that are changing. Judges are giving into an overemotional public instead of applying their expertise. Attention seeking zealots like Derryn Hinch are in effect deciding how justice is dispensed, when it's people like him that should be getting the longer jail time.

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how many people spend LIFE in jail???...

I dont know about you.. but LIFE means to me they come out in a coffin..

as far as I know we do not have too many that will do that.....

Baden Clay will be lucky to serve 15 years should his appeal be dismissed....

I never followed the trial, but if some scratches on his face were all that got him convicted, then he deserves a retrial.

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we have a sick justice system... we even have judges telling us in the future we will be accepting incest... Roll Eyes

..because we now accept gays......makes sense to some.

It should make sense (as logic) to anyone who accepts homosexuality as a norm. Besides, that judge appeared to be pointing to an anomaly, in that we accept one type of 'variation' but reject (for now) another. When both should be non-acceptable, at least as public behavior.

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its judges that abuse the system and they dont give a sh!t about the public and what it wants.

Gotcha! You are saying it's the 'stone-throwers', not the experts, that should be deciding the
penalties.

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Reply #134 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 10:55am

Aussie wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 4:18pm:

GA wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

red baron wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Of course Australians are going to be more interested in Australian homicides rather than those occurring overseas. Occasionally a sensational case overseas captures our attention.

If we were to talk about all the homicides overseas, as well as home grown, this site would run out of space.

We are talking about the vilification of men (and males generally), not crime itself. And all of this chivalrous stuff we are seeing here from crap factories like Cods, is really just that a load of crap. If AB-C had murdered her husband, instead of him murdering her, it would have been less of a story (and she would probably get less than ten years jail when she was convicted). Now, I'm not complaining about the disparities involved, only pointing to an anti-male trend, which although being part of a natural tendency, is still a dangerous direction to be taking.

I think your basic premise is right. If a man kills a woman, the tears are jerked. It does not happen when a woman kills a man.

It's a natural response. But the problem is if emotions start dictating to us the direction society is taking, then we do have a problem. I mean consider the logic: We need to show more concern for women and children because they are the primary components needed for our propagation, which is the reason why of course it's women and children into the life-boats first (nothing to do with chivalry aspect by itself). But now that the situation is that the world is suffering from an oversupply of people, children (in the clinical sense) have become a liability. But of course, we are not going to go against our natural instincts and not want to protect them, but do have to consider looking at the situation from the other end, that is if the newly emerging now present a potential problem, then those that are dying, the more knowledgeable elderly, also creates a problem. We have a double whammy situation.

The real point to all of what I'm saying above is that we have to put in place a political party that represents the thinking (minority) of the public, if we are going to avoid directions being set by a non-thinking majority.

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