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R.I.P. Allison Baden-Clay (Read 11678 times)
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Reply #15 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 12:36pm
 
It's very sad.


I believe the justice system got it right.

He has a deep lack of integrity and honesty, was in serious financial strife. Has one suspicious injury mark and another unexplained one, was up at a strange time on that night.

She had debris from their yard on her person and her blood was in their car.

Cheating on his wife does not make him a murderer.
Murderers would be ok with cheating though.

it'ld be a tough decision to make, if those facts are beyond reasonable doubt.
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Reply #16 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 12:38pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 10:18am:
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fair go there Greg ... nothing to do with his occupation ...
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #17 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 12:40pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 10:49am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 10:05am:
cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 8:50am:
Justice for a lovely lady...you can rest in peace now.may your children find peace in your loving memory.


Did you know her personally, cods?



no I didnt.. but whats wrong with what I said???...

you prefer nasty dont you? even on a thread like this...

what are you going to say next! her mum and dad are making a fortune out of their daughters murder.. Angry

come on I am expecting it.. they are from Qld after all... Angry Angry Angry Angry

and dont all Qlders get sick to death of hearing families whine about a murder in their family...

  Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry
and then make money out of interviews???


nasty nasty nasty,


you are a bitter old fool aren't you? He asked you a simple question, quite possily out of concern ... but you just can't help yourself.
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Reply #18 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 1:07pm
 
I always thought the husband was suss from the very beginning. Him saying something like, she went out for a walk in the dark, on her own, without a mobile phone.

Whether he meant to kill her, I don't know, I suspect manslaughter more-so than murder.

If he had premeditated murder, there would not have been blood in her car, and perhaps he would have had a better alibi at the time of her disappearance etc.

So I believe an argument broke out, he did have a few mistresses during the course of his marriage to her, and she knew, but still stayed with him (perhaps for the sake of her children, as from what I hear from those that knew her, she was very dedicated to her children)....and yet, his latest mistress told him he needed to tell his wife about them, and that he wanted to leave her, so that his wife could move on, and that he would still have access to seeing his children etc.

So perhaps, a fight of some sort happened, and he found out his wife would not accept it, (as from what I hear others say of her, she was a very determined person) perhaps like was mentioned, he just went into a blind rage and hit her too hard?
Acted in the heat of the moment to get rid of her?

Not very premeditated, but still, he dumped her in a creek, and then went on to lie lie lie.

Would have been better to call the cops the instant he knew he had made her deceased after some fighting, so it would have been manslaughter, and not such a big story for all the tabloids to make special viewing about.



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Reply #19 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 1:10pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 12:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 10:18am:
Real Estate agents    Roll Eyes


fair go there Greg ... nothing to do with his occupation ...



Yes, I was being facetious.

Queenslanders    Roll Eyes
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Reply #20 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 1:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 1:10pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 12:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 10:18am:
Real Estate agents    Roll Eyes


fair go there Greg ... nothing to do with his occupation ...



Yes, I was being facetious.

Queenslanders    Roll Eyes


truth be known it was because of lawyers ...

he couldn't just leave her because the lawyers would take everything ... Grin Grin
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Reply #21 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 1:13pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 1:10pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 12:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 10:18am:
Real Estate agents    Roll Eyes


fair go there Greg ... nothing to do with his occupation ...



Yes, I was being facetious.

Queenslanders    Roll Eyes


truth be known it was because of lawyers ...

he couldn't just leave her because the lawyers would take everything ... Grin Grin


But from what is reported, there was nothing to take, he was in financial debt.
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Reply #22 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 1:50pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 12:40pm:
cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 10:49am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 10:05am:
cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 8:50am:
Justice for a lovely lady...you can rest in peace now.may your children find peace in your loving memory.


Did you know her personally, cods?



no I didnt.. but whats wrong with what I said???...

you prefer nasty dont you? even on a thread like this...

what are you going to say next! her mum and dad are making a fortune out of their daughters murder.. Angry

come on I am expecting it.. they are from Qld after all... Angry Angry Angry Angry

and dont all Qlders get sick to death of hearing families whine about a murder in their family...

  Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry
and then make money out of interviews???


nasty nasty nasty,


you are a bitter old fool aren't you? He asked you a simple question, quite possily out of concern ... but you just can't help yourself.


I was wondering whether anyone would comment on that, but, cods has to see shadows where there are none.
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Reply #23 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 1:53pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 12:36pm:
It's very sad.


I believe the justice system got it right.

He has a deep lack of integrity and honesty, was in serious financial strife. Has one suspicious injury mark and another unexplained one, was up at a strange time on that night.

She had debris from their yard on her person and her blood was in their car.

Cheating on his wife does not make him a murderer.
Murderers would be ok with cheating though.

it'ld be a tough decision to make, if those facts are beyond reasonable doubt.


There are far too many unanswered questions for me to feel comfortable about this conviction.  I reckon there is plenty of room for reasonable doubt.  Happy to go into detail, but I doubt that will help much.

I'll bet if a death penalty followed a guilty finding by the Jury, they would have acquitted.
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Reply #24 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 2:26pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 10:57am:
I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a retrial.






... and I believe there SHOULD be - even if just to confirm the findings of the FIRST one

The case had erupted into a too big emotive media circus to have any chance of finding an untainted jury that could deliver anything BUT a guilty verdict "beyond reasonable doubt"

The prosecution have admitted their case was based purely on "circumstantial evidence"
Generally - in our justice system - "circumstantial evidence" is ONLY used as a back up to MATERIAL EVIDENCE


And the blood on her car seat ?


Remember this was the SAME evidence that convicted Lindy Chamberlain
It was only found YEARS LATER that police forensics had seriously screwed up - and it wasn't blood at ALL - but automotive over-spray

At the end of the day the BIGGEST piece of MATERIAL EVIDENCE was this "love-rat's" affair


So I would say YES - a retrial IS WARRANTED - but by a JUDGE, not a JURY, to remove divide in the community








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Reply #25 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 2:35pm
 
Kyrtro, I commented on 2 vital pieces of evidence. In a trial where it is circumstantial evidence that convicts, it is the sum total of all the evidence.

Like branch after branch laid down to complete a picture.

There was enough branches there to start a forest fire.

He is as guilty as hell. The Jury have found him guilty and guilty he is.
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Reply #26 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 2:37pm
 
buzzand didj, just to get something straight, are you claiming it wasn't Allison's blood on the seat?

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Reply #27 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 2:42pm
 
red baron wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 2:37pm:
buzzand didj, just to get something straight, are you claiming it wasn't Allison's blood on the seat?





I'm saying it wasn't Azaria Chaimberlain's blood - after forensics had "proved" that it WAS





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Reply #28 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 2:42pm
 
Aussie I'm sure you could make a case of reasonable doubt for Adolph Hitler that really he was just a misguided house painter, fortunately, the Jury have seen the truth for what it is.
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Reply #29 - Jul 16th, 2014 at 2:44pm
 
red baron wrote on Jul 16th, 2014 at 2:37pm:
buzzand didj, just to get something straight, are you claiming it wasn't Allison's blood on the seat?



And where was the corresponding laceration or blood producing injury to the deceased?  Answer ~ there was zero evidence of any.  It is not uncommon for people to bleed in the ordinary course, even in cars.
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