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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	R.I.P. Allison Baden-Clay Jul 16^th, 2014 at 8:50am Justice for a lovely lady...you can rest in peace now.may your children find peace in your loving memory.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38870 Gender:	Re: R.I.P. Allison Baden-Clay Reply #1 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:05am cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 8:50am: Justice for a lovely lady...you can rest in peace now.may your children find peace in your loving memory. Did you know her personally, cods?
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: R.I.P. Allison Baden-Clay Reply #2 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:11am Baden-Clay could not get over the scratch marks. I have never seen a shaving cut like that, ever. I believe that and Allison's blood on the rear seat of Allison's car were the telling evidence that put the wrecking ball through that smart arsed Gerard Baden-Clay's lies. Yes R.I.P. Allison, may he never get parole.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 140005 Gender:	Re: R.I.P. Allison Baden-Clay Reply #3 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:18am Real Estate agents
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George_Orhell Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 445	Re: R.I.P. Allison Baden-Clay Reply #4 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:19am Yes, may she rest in peace now. Very sad for her children though.
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Reply #5 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:49am

Aussie wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 8:50am:

Justice for a lovely lady...you can rest in peace now.may your children find peace in your loving memory.

Did you know her personally, cods?

no I didnt.. but whats wrong with what I said???...

you prefer nasty dont you? even on a thread like this...

what are you going to say next! her mum and dad are making a fortune out of their daughters murder.. Angry

come on I am expecting it.. they are from Qld after all... Angry

and dont all Qlders get sick to death of hearing families whine about a murder in their family...

Angry

and then make money out of interviews???

nasty nasty nasty,

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Reply #6 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:54am

red baron wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:11am:

Baden-Clay could not get over the scratch marks. I have never seen a shaving cut like that, ever.

I believe that and Allison's blood on the rear seat of Allison's car were the telling evidence that put the wrecking ball through that smart arsed Gerard Baden-Clay's lies.

Yes R.I.P. Allison, may he never get parole.

he wasnt a bit convincing I thought.

unless you are a qlder. Angry

..some do not believe the person found guilty is guilty

its more the parents of the victim that are guilty of a crime..

and of course no one can comment on a persons loveliness unless they knew them personally...

by order of a PUP groupie...

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: R.I.P. Allison Baden-Clay Reply #7 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:57am I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a retrial.
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Reply #8 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 11:30am

red baron wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:11am:

Baden-Clay could not get over the scratch marks. I have never seen a shaving cut like that, ever.

I believe that and Allison's blood on the rear seat of Allison's car were the telling evidence that put the wrecking ball through that smart arsed Gerard Baden-Clay's lies.

Yes R.I.P. Allison, may he never get parole.

I wouldn't have convicted for murder on that. There is no way at all to reasonably prove intent. I might have gone for manslaughter, maybe, but it's still a stretch from an evidential point of view. People believe things far too easily in my opinion.

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Reply #9 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 11:35am

The unusual thing is that Baden Clay seams to have had a beard in most photos I have seen of him.....People with beards do not shave they trim....He also had scratches on his chest that where never explained.....I think the jury made the correct decision.....My condolences to all the family involved who will never be the same again!!!

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Reply #10 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 11:35am

Aussie wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 8:50am:

Justice for a lovely lady...you can rest in peace now.may your children find peace in your loving memory.

Did you know her personally, cods?

This whole public outpouring of grief - over total strangers - is a relatively new phenomena

I first detected it in the murder of Jill Meagher - in Brunswick, Victoria

... and more recently on the murder of Chinese national Renee Lau, in King's Domain, Melbourne

As best I can see - so far - this public grief only admits women victims

I'd be curious to see what a psychiatrist would make of the whole thing ?

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Reply #11 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 11:36am

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:57am:

I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a retrial.

why is that.? I must admit havent followed this one as closely I just thought claiming he scratched himself shaving...was bizarre two scratches what sort of razor was he using.?..I think he could have drugged her..because of the children...he sounded like his whole world was caving in on him... and he couldnt cope..maybe he thought her insurance would get him out of trouble..

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Reply #12 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 11:39am

Kytro wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 11:30am:

red baron wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:11am:

Baden-Clay could not get over the scratch marks. I have never seen a shaving cut like that, ever.

I believe that and Allison's blood on the rear seat of Allison's car were the telling evidence that put the wrecking ball through that smart arsed Gerard Baden-Clay's lies.

Yes R.I.P. Allison, may he never get parole.

I wouldn't have convicted for murder on that. There is no way at all to reasonably prove intent. I might have gone for manslaughter, maybe, but it's still a stretch from an evidential point of view. People believe things far too easily in my opinion.

and the body found 3 weeks later in a creek??

manslaughter....hummmm

not forgetting all the lies in between.

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Reply #13 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 11:43am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 11:35am:

Aussie wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 8:50am:

Justice for a lovely lady...you can rest in peace now.may your children find peace in your loving memory.

Did you know her personally, cods?

This whole public outpouring of grief - over total strangers - is a relatively new phenomena

I first detected it in the murder of Jill Meagher - in Brunswick, Victoria

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/09/29/1226483/980405-tribute-to-jill-m...

... and more recently on the murder of Chinese national Renee Lau, in King's Domain, Melbourne

http://www.au123.com/picture/u/cms/www/201407/03180318dw2h.jpg

As best I can see - so far - this public grief only admits women victims

I'd be curious to see what a psychiatrist would make of the whole thing ?

I dont see a thing wrong with it... its nice to see nice people for a change we "nice people" are sick of the violence sick of it being the answer to problems...

sick of people who want the control and want everything their way.and when it doesnt happen they kill.. JUST LIKE THAT...and then go on with their daily tasks like shaving as if its a normal day..

its just great to see people care have feelings...I think its very nice..

the outpouring for Ian Thorpe has also showed the caring side of aussies..

all power to them I say.

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Re: R.I.P. Allison Baden-Clay
Reply #14 - Jul 16^th, 2014 at 12:21pm

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 11:39am:

Kytro wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 11:30am:

red baron wrote on Jul 16^th, 2014 at 10:11am:

Baden-Clay could not get over the scratch marks. I have never seen a shaving cut like that, ever.

I believe that and Allison's blood on the rear seat of Allison's car were the telling evidence that put the wrecking ball through that smart arsed Gerard Baden-Clay's lies.

Yes R.I.P. Allison, may he never get parole.

I wouldn't have convicted for murder on that. There is no way at all to reasonably prove intent. I might have gone for manslaughter, maybe, but it's still a stretch from an evidential point of view. People believe things far too easily in my opinion.

and the body found 3 weeks later in a creek??

manslaughter....hummmm

not forgetting all the lies in between.

Lies don't prove intent to kill, they could have got into a physical fight, he hit her too hard, then decided to hide the body. That does not make it murder per se.

If it were a civil decision, which goes on the balance of probabilities, yes, but beyond a reasonable doubt, nope.

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