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Question: Who can we blame for the war in Gaza?

Israel    
  3 (21.4%)
Hamas    
  6 (42.9%)
Palestinians    
  0 (0.0%)
The USA    
  1 (7.1%)
Egypt    
  0 (0.0%)
Iran    
  0 (0.0%)
All of the above    
  2 (14.3%)
Freemasons    
  2 (14.3%)




Total votes: 14
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Reply #180 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:36pm
 
What is this - bobby ?

A mutual admiration society ?

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Reply #181 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:46pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:36pm:
What is this - bobby ?

A mutual admiration society ?



Yes - & bless you too Yadda.
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Reply #182 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:49pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 6:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 12:09am:
Soren wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 11:59pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 11:21am:
Soren wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 11:06am:
Gaza is not occupied so how is it resisting occupation?


What rubbish. Israel has total control over the entrance points, has decimated Gaza's fishing industry by not letting fishing boats outside a certain area, and there are Israeli controlled "buffer zones" in the only agricultural areas of Gaza.

Because....?

Because after pulling out, Hamas was installed and they started attacking Israel.

There was NO blockade between Israel pulling out and Hamas gaining control of Gaza.  That was the window of opportunity for the Pallos to show that they are able to attend to the hard slog of providing roads, education, sanitation, health to their own people but they blew it once again for the easy, lazy option of indiscriminate rockets and sloganeering.




That is bull crap - there was always a blockade.

You can't even take a pair of binoculars through an Israeli airport
without being interrogated.

The Jews control absolutely everything.



Bless you, Bobby. You are goodness.

Gaza was not blockaded until Hamas was elected.
Hamas threw out all previous agreements and started shelling Israel,
That's when the blockade started.

Israel did not blockade Gaza before Hamas started firing rockets.




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Reply #183 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:57pm
 
Nonsense - Gaza was always under blockade.
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Reply #184 - Jul 27th, 2014 at 12:16am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:57pm:
Nonsense - Gaza was always under blockade.

Well, there you go. You can be a complete idiot or you can present an argument based on facts. You have chosen, as always, the idiot option.  At least you can say you are an idiot as a matter of consistent policy.
Not nothing. Stupid, but consistent. Be proud.




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Reply #185 - Jul 27th, 2014 at 12:22am
 
And yet, old boy, you leave the idiot option completely unrebutted.

Of course you do.

You agree.
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Reply #186 - Jul 27th, 2014 at 12:48am
 
Soren, the gaza wall was completed in 1996. Rockets from gaza started in 2001

...just let that sink in for a bit...

Now, please enlighten us all as to how people can be walled in, and completely at the mercy of those who built the wall regarding what is allowed in or out - can be described as anything other than a blockade?
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Reply #187 - Jul 27th, 2014 at 1:34am
 
Oh, the old boy won’t have anything to say about that, G.

He’ll just give you one of two options: (a) agree with him or (b) continue to be a complete idiot.

Now which is it to be?
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Reply #188 - Jul 27th, 2014 at 6:38am
 
Just heard a leftard luvvie journalist ask Usain Bolt at the commonwealth games his opinion on the gaza situation.
Bolt replies he knows nothing about it.
Wink Wink Wink

If I was his dad, I'd be prouder of that comment than all his Olympic golds
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Reply #189 - Jul 27th, 2014 at 7:43am
 
Soren wrote on Jul 27th, 2014 at 12:16am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 11:57pm:
Nonsense - Gaza was always under blockade.

Well, there you go. You can be a complete idiot or you can present an argument based on facts. You have chosen, as always, the idiot option.  At least you can say you are an idiot as a matter of consistent policy.
Not nothing. Stupid, but consistent. Be proud.




Your fallacy is:

Argumentum ad hominem.


Gaza was always surrounded by air, land & sea with controlled traffic in all goods.

you are forgiven

namaste
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Reply #190 - Jul 27th, 2014 at 8:04am
 
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Israel did not blockade Gaza before Hamas started firing rockets.




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http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

Hamas is a Creation of Mossad


by Hassane Zerouky

Thanks to the Mossad, Israel's "Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks", the Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat's Fatah Movement for National Liberation as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression and intimidation

Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, "Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)".



Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of the Islamist movement in Palestine, returning from Cairo in the seventies, established an Islamic charity association. Prime Minister Golda Meir, saw this as a an opportunity to counterbalance the rise of Arafat’s Fatah movement. .According to the Israeli weekly Koteret Rashit (October 1987), "The Islamic associations as well as the university had been supported and encouraged by the Israeli military authority" in charge of the (civilian) administration of the West Bank and Gaza. "They [the Islamic associations and the university] were authorized to receive money payments from abroad."

The Islamists set up orphanages and health clinics, as well as a network of schools, workshops which created employment for women as well as system of financial aid to the poor. And in 1978, they created an "Islamic University" in Gaza. "The military authority was convinced that these activities would weaken both the PLO and the leftist organizations in Gaza." At the end of 1992, there were six hundred mosques in Gaza. Thanks to Israel’s intelligence agency Mossad (Israel’s Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks) , the Islamists were allowed to reinforce their presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, the members of Fatah (Movement for the National Liberation of Palestine) and the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression.

In 1984, Ahmed Yassin was arrested and condemned to twelve years in prison, after the discovery of a hidden arms cache. But one year later, he was set free and resumed his activities. And when the Intifada (‘uprising’) began, in October 1987, which took the Islamists by surprise, Sheik Yassin responded by creating the Hamas (The Islamic Resistance Movement): "God is our beginning, the prophet our model, the Koran our constitution", proclaims article 7 of the charter of the organization.

Ahmed Yassin was in prison when, the Oslo accords (Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government) were signed in September 1993. The Hamas had rejected Oslo outright. But at that time, 70% of Palestinians had condemned the attacks on Israeli civilians. Yassin did everything in his power to undermine the Oslo accords. Even prior to Prime Minister Rabin’s death, he had the support of the Israeli government. The latter was very reluctant to implement the peace agreement.

The Hamas then launched a carefully timed campaign of attacks against civilians, one day before the meeting between Palestinian and Israeli negotiators, regarding the formal recognition of Israel by the National Palestinian Council. These events were largely instrumental in the formation of a Right wing Israeli government following the May 1996 elections.

Quite unexpectedly, Prime Minister Netanyahu ordered Sheik Ahmed Yassin to be released from prison ("on humanitarian grounds") where he was serving a life sentence. Meanwhile, Netanyahu, together with President Bill Clinton, was putting pressure on Arafat to control the Hamas. In fact, Netanyahu knew that he could rely, once more, on the Islamists to sabotage the Oslo accords. Worse still: after having expelled Yassin to Jordan, Prime Minister Netanyahu allowed him to return to Gaza, where he was welcomed triumphantly as a hero in October 1997.

Arafat was helpless in the face of these events. Moreover, because he had supported Saddam Hussein during the1991 Gulf war, (while the Hamas had cautiously abstained from taking sides), the Gulf states decided to cut off their financing of the Palestinian Authority. Meanwhile, between February and April 1998, Sheik Ahmad Yassin was able to raise several hundred million dollars, from those same countries. The the budget of The Hamas was said to be greater than that of the Palestinian Authority. These new sources of funding enabled the Islamists to effectively pursue their various charitable activities. It is estimated that one Palestinian out of three is the recipient of financial aid from the Hamas. And in this regard, Israel has done nothing to curb the inflow of money into the occupied territories.

The Hamas had built its strength through its various acts of sabotage of the peace process, in a way which was compatible with the interests of the Israeli government. In turn, the latter sought in a number of ways, to prevent the application of the Oslo accords. In other words, Hamas was fulfilling the functions for which it was originally created: to prevent the creation of a Palestinian State. And in this regard, Hamas and Ariel Sharon, see eye to eye; they are
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Reply #191 - Jul 27th, 2014 at 8:09am
 
Latest news from CNN:


http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/26/world/meast/mideast-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t...

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More than 1,000 Palestinians have been killed and over 5,840 wounded since the start of an Israeli operation, al-Qedra said.

The IDF reported that two Israeli soldiers wounded in Gaza in the past week died on Saturday, bringing to 42 the number of Israeli troops killed in the current operation.
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Reply #192 - Jul 27th, 2014 at 8:50am
 

Latest news from Hamas, in Gaza......

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Hamas.....fired several rockets at Israel from the Gaza Strip

after a 12-hour humanitarian ceasefire in the embattled Palestinian territory,

.........despite a four-hour Israeli extension.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1406071710/49#49

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Reply #193 - Jul 27th, 2014 at 12:56pm
 
Gaza was handed over to the Palestinians, all Israeli settlements were evacuated, no Jews were left in Gaza. The palestinians were given complete political authority. They elected Hamas a few months later and the Fatah Hamasa bloodletting and the rockets started.

THEN Egypt and Israel blockaded.

Causation not correlation, innit.
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Reply #194 - Jul 27th, 2014 at 1:16pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 26th, 2014 at 6:40pm:
That explains it, Light. Mossad created Hamas to kill Israeli citizens in the name of Freemasonry.




Cunning Jews pretending to be kazars or freemasons or the other way round.

But bloody cunning either way, that is.



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