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Reply #15 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 4:35pm

wally1 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 4:28pm:

http://i.imgur.com/WEjscPX.jpg

That map is seriously flawed Walid, if you want to use maps for propaganda they should be accurate or you will lose all credibility.

It shows Gaza and the West bank being Palestinian land despite the fact Egypt occupied Gaza and Jordan occupied the West bank,Egypt lost Gaza to Israel in the 1967 6 day war,Jordan lost the West bank to Israel in the 1967 6 day war.

Does your map show when Israel gave Gaza back, why does it omit this fact?

Does your map show the Israeli wall they built to keep terrorists out or does it omit this fact?

What do you see when you type "Israeli wall" into google and click on images?

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Reply #16 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 9:02pm

wally1 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

The dirty jews have being killing a palestinian child every 3 days for the past 15 years, where is the outrage there for the palestinains?

Where is the outrage of the Palestinians against their own Hamas for launching their rockets from residential neighbourhoods?

I'll tell you where.

They say nothing publicly for the same reason the 'moderate' Muslims living in the West say nothing: fear of retribution from their jihadists.

wally1 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

The conflict has nothing to do with rockets, hamas, gas etc, its about the virus of a nation israel who want to build the terrorist state stretching form the euphrates river in iraq to the nile river in egypt.

I sure hope they succeed in this venture. I hope the Jews expand their First World civilisation so that it gobbles up the useless bastards the world knows as the 'Palestinians' who even the dozen fellow-Arab nations refuse to help.

wally1 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

1 million jews is not worth a fingernail of a palestinian.

As a genocidal Hitlerian you're telling us you occupy the moral high-ground, are you?

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Reply #17 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 9:32pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 9:02pm:

wally1 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

The dirty jews have being killing a palestinian child every 3 days for the past 15 years, where is the outrage there for the palestinains?

Where is the outrage of the Palestinians against their own Hamas for launching their rockets from residential neighbourhoods?

I'll tell you where.

They say nothing publicly for the same reason the 'moderate' Muslims living in the West say nothing: fear of retribution from their jihadists.

wally1 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

The conflict has nothing to do with rockets, hamas, gas etc, its about the virus of a nation israel who want to build the terrorist state stretching form the euphrates river in iraq to the nile river in egypt.

I sure hope they succeed in this venture. I hope the Jews expand their First World civilisation so that it gobbles up the useless bastards the world knows as the 'Palestinians' who even the dozen fellow-Arab nations refuse to help.

wally1 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

1 million jews is not worth a fingernail of a palestinian.

As a genocidal Hitlerian you're telling us you occupy the moral high-ground, are you?

couple of days ago you said that israel and the arabs should be nuked, now your saying that israel has right to exist.

Your a weirdo.

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Reply #19 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 10:40pm

wally1 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 9:35pm:

http://i.imgur.com/z2vuzH5.jpg

And you wonder why there is no sympathy for the Arabs - with dickheads like you, who cares about you wallies murdering each other at the drop of a turban.
Natural selection, innit.
Carry on.

The Jews want peace and the Arabs don't. That's al there is to it.

Details here:

I am with the Jews.

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Reply #20 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 10:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 3:55pm:

http://my.firedoglake.com/metamars/2014/07/17/wayne-madsen-israel-ordered-malays...

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Ukrainian government, Russia, and Donetsk People’s Republic all deny shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight 17 over eastern Ukraine. But there is no word from Kolomoisky’s Army led by Ukrainan-Israeli billionaire oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky. Kolomoisky has funded his own army in eastern Ukraine with massive weapons purchases and fascist mercenaries. The Buk missile system used to shoot down MH-17 is in Ukrainian stocks and has been sold by Kiev to Georgia. Media propaganda alert over charges that Ukraine does not possess Buk system. Donetsk Republic also says it has no missile system capable of hitting a plane at 33,000 feet. The truth: Kolomoisky, who takes his orders from Tel Aviv, pulled this attack off to divert attention from Israel’s Gaza genocide and try to put blame on Russia. Israel and its sayanim are masters of false flag attacks.

What about the 298 people killed to take the heat off the invasion?

Notice the above story is getting no air play anywhere in our media?

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Israel invades Gaza Reply #21 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 10:59pm The Jews want peace and the Arabs don't. That's al there is to it. Details here: I support Israel.
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Reply #22 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 8:21am

The reasons why Pat Condell now ... (didn't used to ~ and neither did I) ... supports Israel.

Over and again Israel has agreed to a two-State solution with the Palestinians ~ but it's always been refused because it's not about territory, it's about the local Muslims not wanting to be shamed by Israel's many successes as a First World nation amid the appalling economic and social failures of the surrounding Arab countries.

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Pat Condell:

"You can measure how “progressive” you are by how long it’s been since you called somebody a racist for advocating secularism or democracy".

"Cultural enrichment in Philadelphia as mosque leaders try to cut off a man’s hand.

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Reply #23 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 8:31am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 10:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 3:55pm:

http://my.firedoglake.com/metamars/2014/07/17/wayne-madsen-israel-ordered-malays...

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Ukrainian government, Russia, and Donetsk People’s Republic all deny shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight 17 over eastern Ukraine. But there is no word from Kolomoisky’s Army led by Ukrainan-Israeli billionaire oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky. Kolomoisky has funded his own army in eastern Ukraine with massive weapons purchases and fascist mercenaries. The Buk missile system used to shoot down MH-17 is in Ukrainian stocks and has been sold by Kiev to Georgia. Media propaganda alert over charges that Ukraine does not possess Buk system. Donetsk Republic also says it has no missile system capable of hitting a plane at 33,000 feet. The truth: Kolomoisky, who takes his orders from Tel Aviv, pulled this attack off to divert attention from Israel’s Gaza genocide and try to put blame on Russia. Israel and its sayanim are masters of false flag attacks.

What about the 298 people killed to take the heat off the invasion?

Notice the above story is getting no air play anywhere in our media?

That's because it's from a nutbag who blames the Jews for everything, including stubbing his toe.

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Reply #24 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 8:57am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 8:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 10:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 3:55pm:

http://my.firedoglake.com/metamars/2014/07/17/wayne-madsen-israel-ordered-malays...

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Ukrainian government, Russia, and Donetsk People’s Republic all deny shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight 17 over eastern Ukraine. But there is no word from Kolomoisky’s Army led by Ukrainan-Israeli billionaire oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky. Kolomoisky has funded his own army in eastern Ukraine with massive weapons purchases and fascist mercenaries. The Buk missile system used to shoot down MH-17 is in Ukrainian stocks and has been sold by Kiev to Georgia. Media propaganda alert over charges that Ukraine does not possess Buk system. Donetsk Republic also says it has no missile system capable of hitting a plane at 33,000 feet. The truth: Kolomoisky, who takes his orders from Tel Aviv, pulled this attack off to divert attention from Israel’s Gaza genocide and try to put blame on Russia. Israel and its sayanim are masters of false flag attacks.

What about the 298 people killed to take the heat off the invasion?

Notice the above story is getting no air play anywhere in our media?

That's because it's from a nutbag who blames the Jews for everything, including stubbing his toe.

Forgiven for listening only to mainstream media.

namaste

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Reply #25 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 9:06am

Piers Ackerman in the Daily Telegraph:

" DAMNED FOR TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT GAZA

ARAB groups want to oust Vic Alhadeff, chairman of the NSW Community Relations Commission, for telling the truth.

They claim Alhadeff, also chief executive of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies, should be removed because he sent an email to the Jewish community last week accusing Palestinians of war crimes against Israel during fighting around Gaza.

The NSW government rejected the calls. Communities minister Victor Dominello said “we must not overlook Mr Alhadeff’s substantial achievements in promoting inter-faith understanding across our multicultural communities.”

The Arab Council Australia said it was disappointed by the decision, saying Alhadeff’s comments last week “cannot be undone” and the government “gives us no choice but to walk away from the very institution that is supposed to prevent these rifts”.

The Arab Council and its supporters on the extreme Left need a reality check.

It is the terrorist organisation Hamas which has targeted civilians in the current conflict. It was Hamas which refused to recognise the ceasefire organised by Egypt and continued to rain its showers of rockets on Israel after the Israelis called a halt to their response.

It has been Hamas and its partner Fatah which have instructed Palestinians to act as human shields and ignore Israeli warnings of imminent attacks.

It has been Hamas and Fatah which have broken the agreements made between the Palestinian Authority and Israel when the Israelis left Gaza in 2005.

If the Arab Council and its fellow travellers were interested in harmony in Gaza, they would demand that the terrorists leave the region and let the civilians honour the agreement that was made with Israel and construct pathways to peace.

But for all their talk, they cannot bring themselves to acknowledge that the Israelis were legally entitled to defend themselves from the rockets being fired from Gaza.

Those trying to deny the truth should be ashamed of their tacit support for terrorism. "

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Ackerman uses the term "Arab groups". I'm sure he meant 'Muslim groups'.

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Reply #26 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 9:27am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 8:57am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 8:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 10:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 3:55pm:

http://my.firedoglake.com/metamars/2014/07/17/wayne-madsen-israel-ordered-malays...

Quote:

Ukrainian government, Russia, and Donetsk People’s Republic all deny shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight 17 over eastern Ukraine. But there is no word from Kolomoisky’s Army led by Ukrainan-Israeli billionaire oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky. Kolomoisky has funded his own army in eastern Ukraine with massive weapons purchases and fascist mercenaries. The Buk missile system used to shoot down MH-17 is in Ukrainian stocks and has been sold by Kiev to Georgia. Media propaganda alert over charges that Ukraine does not possess Buk system. Donetsk Republic also says it has no missile system capable of hitting a plane at 33,000 feet. The truth: Kolomoisky, who takes his orders from Tel Aviv, pulled this attack off to divert attention from Israel’s Gaza genocide and try to put blame on Russia. Israel and its sayanim are masters of false flag attacks.

What about the 298 people killed to take the heat off the invasion?

Notice the above story is getting no air play anywhere in our media?

That's because it's from a nutbag who blames the Jews for everything, including stubbing his toe.

Forgiven for listening only to mainstream media.

namaste

Forgiven for listening to conspiraloon theories instead of thinking.

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106271 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel invades Gaza Reply #27 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 9:30am Gizmo, Quote: Forgiven for listening to conspiraloon theories instead of thinking. bomshanka Someone with an open mind would listen to all theories & then make up their mind as to what was the most credible. Only a fool would believe what the mainstream media rams down their throat. forgiven namaste
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Reply #28 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 9:35am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 9:06am:

Piers Ackerman in the Daily Telegraph:

" DAMNED FOR TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT GAZA

ARAB groups want to oust Vic Alhadeff, chairman of the NSW Community Relations Commission, for telling the truth.

They claim Alhadeff, also chief executive of the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies, should be removed because he sent an email to the Jewish community last week accusing Palestinians of war crimes against Israel during fighting around Gaza.

The NSW government rejected the calls. Communities minister Victor Dominello said “we must not overlook Mr Alhadeff’s substantial achievements in promoting inter-faith understanding across our multicultural communities.”

The Arab Council Australia said it was disappointed by the decision, saying Alhadeff’s comments last week “cannot be undone” and the government “gives us no choice but to walk away from the very institution that is supposed to prevent these rifts”.

The Arab Council and its supporters on the extreme Left need a reality check.

It is the terrorist organisation Hamas which has targeted civilians in the current conflict. It was Hamas which refused to recognise the ceasefire organised by Egypt and continued to rain its showers of rockets on Israel after the Israelis called a halt to their response.

It has been Hamas and its partner Fatah which have instructed Palestinians to act as human shields and ignore Israeli warnings of imminent attacks.

It has been Hamas and Fatah which have broken the agreements made between the Palestinian Authority and Israel when the Israelis left Gaza in 2005.

If the Arab Council and its fellow travellers were interested in harmony in Gaza, they would demand that the terrorists leave the region and let the civilians honour the agreement that was made with Israel and construct pathways to peace.

But for all their talk, they cannot bring themselves to acknowledge that the Israelis were legally entitled to defend themselves from the rockets being fired from Gaza.

Those trying to deny the truth should be ashamed of their tacit support for terrorism. "

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Ackerman uses the term "Arab groups". I'm sure he meant 'Muslim groups'.

Majority of the arab council are christians you weirdo.

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Reply #29 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 10:13am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 9:30am:

Gizmo,
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Forgiven for listening to conspiraloon theories instead of thinking.

bomshanka

Someone with an open mind would listen to all theories

& then make up their mind as to what was the most credible.

Only a fool would believe what the mainstream media rams down their throat.

forgiven

namaste

Which IS what I do Bobby.
That's why I discount the nutbag theory about Tel Aviv ordering the plane shot down.

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Question: Who can we blame for the war in Gaza?
Israel 3 (21.4%) Hamas 6 (42.9%) Palestinians 0 (0.0%) The USA 1 (7.1%) Egypt 0 (0.0%) Iran 0 (0.0%) All of the above 2 (14.3%) Freemasons 2 (14.3%) Total votes: 14 « Last Modified by: Bobby. on: Aug 9^th, 2014 at 6:16pm »