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Question: Who can we blame for the war in Gaza?

Israel    
  3 (21.4%)
Hamas    
  6 (42.9%)
Palestinians    
  0 (0.0%)
The USA    
  1 (7.1%)
Egypt    
  0 (0.0%)
Iran    
  0 (0.0%)
All of the above    
  2 (14.3%)
Freemasons    
  2 (14.3%)




Total votes: 14
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Reply #270 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:18am
 
Soren wrote on Jul 30th, 2014 at 1:21pm:
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At the Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, crowds gathered to throw shoes and eggs at the Palestinian Authority’s health minister, who represents the crumbling “unity government” in the West Bank city of Ramallah. The minister was turned away before he reached the hospital, which has become a de facto headquarters for Hamas leaders, who can be seen in the hallways and offices.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/while-israel-held-its-fire-the-m...



Bald faced lie. Shifa is not the defacto headquarters of anything. It is a hospital to which ambulances must drive in convoys for added safety with 2, 3, 4, 5 wounded. If there are Hamas members in Shifa's hallways, it is probably because they're family members are dead or dying within its walls. It is a place of agony and misery where children lie in excruciating pain because there isn't enough anasthesia available to soothe them. Doctors and nurses and volunteers work until they pass out.

And you. Look what you got out of that shambles of a story you linked to. Look at your focus. For weeks you have been saying the Palestinians should take a stand against their government, yet you completely ignore it when they do because it doesn't fit your agenda here.

Keep regurgitating your Israeli propaganda, if it brings you comfort but you cannot change the fact that the only people who are to blame for the genocide in Gaza are the pro-war Israelis and the people like you who support them.
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Reply #271 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:24am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 6:56am:
But by indiscriminate bombing & shelling of Gaza they are creating a new generation of hatred.


"Indiscriminate"?  Now I KNOW you're simply making up your own script as you go along, without any regard for the facts.

The schools were repositories for WMD.

The Israeli shelling has been targeting hundreds of Hamas tunnels located in residential neighbourhoods.

Israeli soldiers have lost their lives precisely because they were under orders to chose their targets carefully, and to avoid as much collateral damage as possible ... something Hamas had no scruples about.

There's simply no point in discussing this any further with you people who are ideologically committed to supporting the Palestinians, no matter what. You people are blind to reason.





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Reply #272 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:29am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:24am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 6:56am:
But by indiscriminate bombing & shelling of Gaza they are creating a new generation of hatred.


"Indiscriminate"?  Now I KNOW you're simply making up your own script as you go along, without any regard for the facts.

The schools were repositories for WMD.

The Israeli shelling has been targeting hundreds of Hamas tunnels located in residential neighbourhoods.

Israeli soldiers have lost their lives precisely because they were under orders to chose their targets carefully, and to avoid as much collateral damage as possible ... something Hamas had no scruples about.

There's simply no point in discussing this any further with you people who are ideologically committed to supporting the Palestinians, no matter what. You people are blind to reason.





Look back in this thread -

the schools were empty when they stored rockets.

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Reply #273 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:33am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:18am:
Keep regurgitating your Israeli propaganda, if it brings you comfort but you cannot change the fact that the only people who are to blame for the genocide in Gaza are the pro-war Israelis and the people like you who support them.


What utter garbage.


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Reply #274 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:37am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 6:56am:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 6:54am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 8:07pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 8:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 7:48pm:
Link for some proof?


It was on the Ch9 news tonight ... and obviously the newsreader had instructions to rush through this particular piece of news like her pants were on fire before getting straight back into the business of demonising Israel.

It was laughable.   



Maybe?

There will never be peace in Israel -there is too much deep seated hatred.



that's the bottom line bobby. until they destroy every hater, there will be no peace.

Please detail israels options , having admitted this to be the case



But by indiscriminate bombing & shelling of Gaza they are creating a new generation of hatred.


Bobby, if the Israeli's decommissioned their entire military, drove every tank into the sea, had a john howard type gun buy back and bulldozed every weapon into a pile of rubble,
what do you think would happen to them?
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Reply #275 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:46am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:37am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 6:56am:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 6:54am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 8:07pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 8:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 7:48pm:
Link for some proof?


It was on the Ch9 news tonight ... and obviously the newsreader had instructions to rush through this particular piece of news like her pants were on fire before getting straight back into the business of demonising Israel.

It was laughable.   



Maybe?

There will never be peace in Israel -there is too much deep seated hatred.



that's the bottom line bobby. until they destroy every hater, there will be no peace.

Please detail israels options , having admitted this to be the case



But by indiscriminate bombing & shelling of Gaza they are creating a new generation of hatred.


Bobby, if the Israeli's decommissioned their entire military, drove every tank into the sea, had a john howard type gun buy back and bulldozed every weapon into a pile of rubble,
what do you think would happen to them?



Nobody is suggesting anything of the sort. Who is saying Israel must leave themselves defenseless? There is a clear difference between defense and horrifyingly destructive aggression.



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Reply #276 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:51am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:37am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 6:56am:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 6:54am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 8:07pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 8:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 7:48pm:
Link for some proof?


It was on the Ch9 news tonight ... and obviously the newsreader had instructions to rush through this particular piece of news like her pants were on fire before getting straight back into the business of demonising Israel.

It was laughable.   



Maybe?

There will never be peace in Israel -there is too much deep seated hatred.



that's the bottom line bobby. until they destroy every hater, there will be no peace.

Please detail israels options , having admitted this to be the case



But by indiscriminate bombing & shelling of Gaza they are creating a new generation of hatred.


Bobby, if the Israeli's decommissioned their entire military, drove every tank into the sea, had a john howard type gun buy back and bulldozed every weapon into a pile of rubble,
what do you think would happen to them?


That's a strawman fallacy.

Who is suggesting that?
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Reply #277 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:59am
 
Latest news ABC 24:

Unconditional cease fire for 72 hours starting 3.00pm our time.
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Reply #278 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 8:04am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:18am:

Keep regurgitating your Israeli propaganda, if it brings you comfort but you cannot change the fact that the only people who are to blame for the genocide in Gaza are the pro-war Israelis and the people like you who support them.



"the pro-war Israelis", who have all along stated that the people of Gaza must stop launching rockets - laden with High Explosives - against Israeli cities and towns.

And have stated that the only reason this intense conflict is continuing, is because the people of Gaza are launching rockets - laden with High Explosives - against Israeli cities and towns.



Annie,

If the the people of Gaza STOPPED launching rockets - laden with High Explosives - against Israeli cities and towns, Israel would be unable - to unilaterally - continue this conflict.

If the rockets from Gaza STOPPED - Israel would be unable to justify the bombardment that it is conducting - against those who are launching rockets - laden with High Explosives - against Israeli cities and towns.

In this current conflict, Gaza has launched more than 2,500 rockets against Israeli cities and towns - AND THE ROCKET LAUNCHES AGAINST ISRAELI CITIES AND TOWNS ARE CONTINUING.



When i see some Gazan woman standing in a Gaza hospital screaming on the TV news exclaim;
"The Jews are massacring us!!!!"
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....why doesn't some reporter ask persons like her;
"Do you think that if Hamas stopped launching rockets against Israeli cities and towns, the Israel may stop this bombardment against Gaza?"






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Reply #279 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 8:14am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:37am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 6:56am:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 6:54am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 8:07pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 8:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 31st, 2014 at 7:48pm:
Link for some proof?


It was on the Ch9 news tonight ... and obviously the newsreader had instructions to rush through this particular piece of news like her pants were on fire before getting straight back into the business of demonising Israel.

It was laughable.   



Maybe?

There will never be peace in Israel -there is too much deep seated hatred.



that's the bottom line bobby. until they destroy every hater, there will be no peace.

Please detail israels options , having admitted this to be the case



But by indiscriminate bombing & shelling of Gaza they are creating a new generation of hatred.


Bobby, if the Israeli's decommissioned their entire military, drove every tank into the sea, had a john howard type gun buy back and bulldozed every weapon into a pile of rubble,
what do you think would happen to them?





aquascoot,

bobby thinks that there would be peace, in the Middle East.       Tongue





aquascoot,

bobby [and people like him], would never take up the option, THEMSELVES, that they insist that Israel must take up.



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Reply #280 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 8:30am
 
yadda,  while your font changes give me a migraine  Wink Wink.

that's the basic truth.

if rockets were being fired willy nilly into Sydney or Melbourne from the clubhouse of the banditos motorcycle gang, the public of Sydney or Melbourne (who would be spending half their lives in underground car parks would be screaming for the authorities to use every means at their disposal to end it.

I cant see how the supporters of Palestine cant see that.  Palestine chuck everything but the kitchen sink at every jew they can possibly hit, but isreal must somehow show restraint.

Its a bit like the argument that the british had commited war crimes by bombing Germany. sure civilians were killed but if you have the weaponry to use and you are being attacked,  then I cant see a problem with using this weaponry. do the left really expect Israel to just leave their weapons in the garage and make this a fair fight.
What nation would do that.
When aussie troops are fighting the Taliban do they give up choppers, night vision goggles and find some old AK 47's to use because it would be unfair to outgun their enemy.
I cant get my head around these bizarre thought processes from the left.
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Reply #281 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 8:41am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 7:59am:
Latest news ABC 24:

Unconditional cease fire for 72 hours starting 3.00pm our time.


Other News: Hamas has been repeatedly breaking these cease fires.
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Reply #282 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 8:47am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 8:30am:
I cant see how the supporters of Palestine cant see that.


They can, but it's not politically convenient for them to admit to it. It goes against their PC instincts.

It doesn't gel with the Poor Arab Victimhood narrative they want to peddle to the naive and the ignorant.

aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 8:30am:
I cant get my head around these bizarre thought processes from the left.


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Leftwing perspective is basically a case of the feminisation of logic and rational perspective.

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Reply #283 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 8:57am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 8:47am:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 8:30am:
I cant see how the supporters of Palestine cant see that.


They can, but it's not politically convenient for them to admit to it. It goes against their PC instincts.

It doesn't gel with the Poor Arab Victimhood narrative they want to peddle to the naive and the ignorant.

aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 8:30am:
I cant get my head around these bizarre thought processes from the left.


Grin

Leftwing perspective is basically a case of the feminisation of logic and rational perspective.

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if just one random bomb from some terrorist group landed at the café where inner city leftard journos eat their rocket and smashed avocado salad, if david marr got one scratch on his forehead , he would be calling for the jets to bomb the perpetrators into oblivium.  if he was dining with sarah Hansen young at the time, he may be shielded from the blast though
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Reply #284 - Aug 1st, 2014 at 9:35am
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 1st, 2014 at 8:30am:
yadda,  while your font changes give me a migraine  Wink Wink.

that's the basic truth.

if rockets were being fired willy nilly into Sydney or Melbourne from the clubhouse of the banditos motorcycle gang, the public of Sydney or Melbourne (who would be spending half their lives in underground car parks would be screaming for the authorities to use every means at their disposal to end it.



Like murdering thousands of kids in the surrounding homes and suburbs? To get at a criminal element?

You really believe that?

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