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Question: Who can we blame for the war in Gaza?

Israel    
  3 (21.4%)
Hamas    
  6 (42.9%)
Palestinians    
  0 (0.0%)
The USA    
  1 (7.1%)
Egypt    
  0 (0.0%)
Iran    
  0 (0.0%)
All of the above    
  2 (14.3%)
Freemasons    
  2 (14.3%)




Total votes: 14
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Reply #435 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 9:59pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 2:07pm:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 12:21pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 12:12pm:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 12:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 11:54am:
Dear Chicken,
there is no safe place in Gaza for civilians.


There is usually no safe place for civilians caught up in any war eh.
Perhaps they can go to the southern checkpoint that the Egyptians control eh.
Which is probably not a bad idea considering the Israeli government and the IDF's long awaited determination to destroy Hamas once and for all.
No point in stopping again with the job only half done.



There would be no room for 1.8 million poor souls there -
most of them caught up in a war they want nothing to do with.

you are forgiven for flippancy

namaste


You mean to say their Islamic brothers in Egypt would not give the Gazan's shelter?
I'm sure 1.8 million people could fit in an area the size of ten football ovals comfortably.
If the Rolling Stones can hold a free concert a few years ago on a beach in South America in front of 1 million concert goers, I'm sure 1.8 million can fit in a larger area on the southern border with Egypt eh.
The real question is would Hamas allow people to leave Gaza?



But it's not Egypt that's dropping bombs, is it? What is it with the constant blame-shifting of rabid Zionists?

The children are dying because Israel are wiping them out. The retaliation in Rafah has been worse than anything we've seen so far - all for a 'kidnapped' soldier who was already dead. Quite the convenienet excuse to level an entire town.

And the IDF snipers shoot civilians while they're combing the rubble for a sign of loved ones. And if they don't kill them with the first shot, they shoot them while theyre lying wounded on the ground until they do.

A most moral military.



Hamas was not concerned about Jewish children when it started this war and the one before it.

When war is started, the idea is that you kill the enemy. Hamas followed this principle by lobbing rockets in order to kill the enemy - the Jews. Not soldiers, not grown ups - just the enemy, the Jews.

The Jews, in response, are shooting back and started with warning texts, phone calls, dummy shells. Now, it's about killing the enemy.  That's war - and it ends when one side knows it's beaten.
This will stop when either Hamas asks for a cease fire or when the Jews are satisfied that Hamas is destroyed. 


This is not a war between the 'children' and the IDF. It is between Hamas and Israel.


The sad thing about the Arabs is that they do not want to realise )partly because it is against their religion) that after WWII you can't bugger with the Jews at will. That's it. Israel is not going to give in because the Jews know that once they give in, that's the end of Israel.
Hamas knows that, even if you don't, and that's why they are literally throwing their children into the fire, to force Israel to give in. But it's simply not going to happen. You can demonise the Jews a much as you like but everyone knows that Israel doesn't want to destroy Islam and the Arab nations but wants peace, recognition and security while the Arabs want to destroy Israel at any cost and they do not accept its existence.

Hamas and ISIS and the Taleban and Boko Haram and all the other crazy Islamists are sacrificing their children to this animosity towards the Jews.
These children are sacrificed by the Muslims to the Muslims' insatiable hatred of Jews.








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Reply #436 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:05pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
The only reason Gazan civilians are dying is because Israel is dropping bombs on them. Rationalise it all you want, but without the bombs there would be no dead.

I get it now. Gaza will not recover from this. There is a narrative emerging that isn't new for the Israelis and their supporters, but is appearing in new places.

In a few years, Israel will have absorbed Gaza and resettled the Palestinian people elsewhere.  What a tragedy - the 'final solution', I guess. We will have the true Catastrophe that the Israelis and their asshole supporters have been wanting since '48.

Israel doesn't need or want Gaza. It has always been Philistine territory.

But Hamas will be destroyed as a governing force. Egypt is destroying its paymasters the Muslim Brotherhood, Israel is destroying its tunnels and arsenal.

Islam meets modernity.

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Reply #437 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:06pm
 
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 9:59pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 2:07pm:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 12:21pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 12:12pm:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 12:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 11:54am:
Dear Chicken,
there is no safe place in Gaza for civilians.


There is usually no safe place for civilians caught up in any war eh.
Perhaps they can go to the southern checkpoint that the Egyptians control eh.
Which is probably not a bad idea considering the Israeli government and the IDF's long awaited determination to destroy Hamas once and for all.
No point in stopping again with the job only half done.



There would be no room for 1.8 million poor souls there -
most of them caught up in a war they want nothing to do with.

you are forgiven for flippancy

namaste


You mean to say their Islamic brothers in Egypt would not give the Gazan's shelter?
I'm sure 1.8 million people could fit in an area the size of ten football ovals comfortably.
If the Rolling Stones can hold a free concert a few years ago on a beach in South America in front of 1 million concert goers, I'm sure 1.8 million can fit in a larger area on the southern border with Egypt eh.
The real question is would Hamas allow people to leave Gaza?



But it's not Egypt that's dropping bombs, is it? What is it with the constant blame-shifting of rabid Zionists?

The children are dying because Israel are wiping them out. The retaliation in Rafah has been worse than anything we've seen so far - all for a 'kidnapped' soldier who was already dead. Quite the convenienet excuse to level an entire town.

And the IDF snipers shoot civilians while they're combing the rubble for a sign of loved ones. And if they don't kill them with the first shot, they shoot them while theyre lying wounded on the ground until they do.

A most moral military.



Hamas was not concerned about Jewish children when it started this war and the one before it.

When war is started, the idea is that you kill the enemy. Hamas followed this principle by lobbing rockets in order to kill the enemy - the Jews. Not soldiers, not grown ups - just the enemy, the Jews.

The Jews, in response, are shooting back and started with warning texts, phone calls, dummy shells. Now, it's about killing the enemy.  That's war - and it ends when one side knows it's beaten.
This will stop when either Hamas asks for a cease fire or when the Jews are satisfied that Hamas is destroyed. 


This is not a war between the 'children' and the IDF. It is between Hamas and Israel.


The sad thing about the Arabs is that they do not want to realise )partly because it is against their religion) that after WWII you can't bugger with the Jews at will. That's it. Israel is not going to give in because the Jews know that once they give in, that's the end of Israel.
Hamas knows that, even if you don't, and that's why they are literally throwing their children into the fire, to force Israel to give in. But it's simply not going to happen. You can demonise the Jews a much as you like but everyone knows that Israel doesn't want to destroy Islam and the Arab nations but wants peace, recognition and security while the Arabs want to destroy Israel at any cost and they do not accept its existence.

Hamas and ISIS and the Taleban and Boko Haram and all the other crazy Islamists are sacrificing their children to this animosity towards the Jews.
These children are sacrificed by the Muslims to the Muslims' insatiable hatred of Jews.



So you're saying that this has nothing to do with Palestinians living under apartheid?

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Reply #438 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:17pm
 
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:05pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
The only reason Gazan civilians are dying is because Israel is dropping bombs on them. Rationalise it all you want, but without the bombs there would be no dead.

I get it now. Gaza will not recover from this. There is a narrative emerging that isn't new for the Israelis and their supporters, but is appearing in new places.

In a few years, Israel will have absorbed Gaza and resettled the Palestinian people elsewhere.  What a tragedy - the 'final solution', I guess. We will have the true Catastrophe that the Israelis and their asshole supporters have been wanting since '48.

Israel doesn't need or want Gaza. It has always been Philistine territory.

But Hamas will be destroyed as a governing force. Egypt is destroying its paymasters the Muslim Brotherhood, Israel is destroying its tunnels and arsenal.

Islam meets modernity.




What - if anything - could Israel do that would be too much for you? Do you stand with Israel blindly no matter what?

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Reply #439 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:19pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:06pm:
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 9:59pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 2:07pm:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 12:21pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 12:12pm:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 12:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 11:54am:
Dear Chicken,
there is no safe place in Gaza for civilians.


There is usually no safe place for civilians caught up in any war eh.
Perhaps they can go to the southern checkpoint that the Egyptians control eh.
Which is probably not a bad idea considering the Israeli government and the IDF's long awaited determination to destroy Hamas once and for all.
No point in stopping again with the job only half done.



There would be no room for 1.8 million poor souls there -
most of them caught up in a war they want nothing to do with.

you are forgiven for flippancy

namaste


You mean to say their Islamic brothers in Egypt would not give the Gazan's shelter?
I'm sure 1.8 million people could fit in an area the size of ten football ovals comfortably.
If the Rolling Stones can hold a free concert a few years ago on a beach in South America in front of 1 million concert goers, I'm sure 1.8 million can fit in a larger area on the southern border with Egypt eh.
The real question is would Hamas allow people to leave Gaza?



But it's not Egypt that's dropping bombs, is it? What is it with the constant blame-shifting of rabid Zionists?

The children are dying because Israel are wiping them out. The retaliation in Rafah has been worse than anything we've seen so far - all for a 'kidnapped' soldier who was already dead. Quite the convenienet excuse to level an entire town.

And the IDF snipers shoot civilians while they're combing the rubble for a sign of loved ones. And if they don't kill them with the first shot, they shoot them while theyre lying wounded on the ground until they do.

A most moral military.



Hamas was not concerned about Jewish children when it started this war and the one before it.

When war is started, the idea is that you kill the enemy. Hamas followed this principle by lobbing rockets in order to kill the enemy - the Jews. Not soldiers, not grown ups - just the enemy, the Jews.

The Jews, in response, are shooting back and started with warning texts, phone calls, dummy shells. Now, it's about killing the enemy.  That's war - and it ends when one side knows it's beaten.
This will stop when either Hamas asks for a cease fire or when the Jews are satisfied that Hamas is destroyed. 


This is not a war between the 'children' and the IDF. It is between Hamas and Israel.


The sad thing about the Arabs is that they do not want to realise )partly because it is against their religion) that after WWII you can't bugger with the Jews at will. That's it. Israel is not going to give in because the Jews know that once they give in, that's the end of Israel.
Hamas knows that, even if you don't, and that's why they are literally throwing their children into the fire, to force Israel to give in. But it's simply not going to happen. You can demonise the Jews a much as you like but everyone knows that Israel doesn't want to destroy Islam and the Arab nations but wants peace, recognition and security while the Arabs want to destroy Israel at any cost and they do not accept its existence.

Hamas and ISIS and the Taleban and Boko Haram and all the other crazy Islamists are sacrificing their children to this animosity towards the Jews.
These children are sacrificed by the Muslims to the Muslims' insatiable hatred of Jews.



So you're saying that this has nothing to do with Palestinians living under apartheid?


I am.
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Reply #440 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:24pm
 
Dear Soren,
It is all to do with  Palestinians living under apartheid.

The Israelis want them to leave so they are making their life hell.

No smart Palestinian would stay in Gaza.
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Reply #441 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:27pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:17pm:
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:05pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
The only reason Gazan civilians are dying is because Israel is dropping bombs on them. Rationalise it all you want, but without the bombs there would be no dead.

I get it now. Gaza will not recover from this. There is a narrative emerging that isn't new for the Israelis and their supporters, but is appearing in new places.

In a few years, Israel will have absorbed Gaza and resettled the Palestinian people elsewhere.  What a tragedy - the 'final solution', I guess. We will have the true Catastrophe that the Israelis and their asshole supporters have been wanting since '48.

Israel doesn't need or want Gaza. It has always been Philistine territory.

But Hamas will be destroyed as a governing force. Egypt is destroying its paymasters the Muslim Brotherhood, Israel is destroying its tunnels and arsenal.

Islam meets modernity.




What - if anything - could Israel do that would be too much for you? Do you stand with Israel blindly no matter what?




There was peace until Hamas started the rockets. The way you deal with a bully like Hamas is that you do not start a war but when they start it, you hit back without mercy. Especially the third time.

This is not the first time Hamas has been shelling Israel from Gaza. They have been in control of Gaza for 9 years now. They have done NOTHING for their people, they spent all that aid money on tunnels, rockets and high living. And they have been shelling Israel under the cover of 'international opinion' all along.

Enough is enough. Israel would be remiss if they didn't destroy Hamas this time around. In a war, one side needs to know it's beaten. There is no end until then. And it's not going to be the Jews. Wake up.i
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Reply #442 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:31pm
 
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:27pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:17pm:
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:05pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
The only reason Gazan civilians are dying is because Israel is dropping bombs on them. Rationalise it all you want, but without the bombs there would be no dead.

I get it now. Gaza will not recover from this. There is a narrative emerging that isn't new for the Israelis and their supporters, but is appearing in new places.

In a few years, Israel will have absorbed Gaza and resettled the Palestinian people elsewhere.  What a tragedy - the 'final solution', I guess. We will have the true Catastrophe that the Israelis and their asshole supporters have been wanting since '48.

Israel doesn't need or want Gaza. It has always been Philistine territory.

But Hamas will be destroyed as a governing force. Egypt is destroying its paymasters the Muslim Brotherhood, Israel is destroying its tunnels and arsenal.

Islam meets modernity.




What - if anything - could Israel do that would be too much for you? Do you stand with Israel blindly no matter what?




There was peace until Hamas started the rockets. The way you deal with a bully like Hamas is that you do not start a war but when they start it, you hit back without mercy. Especially the third time.

This is not the first time Hamas has been shelling Israel from Gaza. They have been in control of Gaza for 9 years now. They have done NOTHING for their people, they spent all that aid money on tunnels, rockets and high living. And they have been shelling Israel under the cover of 'international opinion' all along.

Enough is enough. Israel would be remiss if they didn't destroy Hamas this time around. In a war, one side needs to know it's beaten. There is no end until then. And it's not going to be the Jews. Wake up.









I know your opinion on that. I've read lots that are similar.

What I asked was: is there a line for you personally that Israel could cross that would make you question or withdraw your support?
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Reply #443 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:36pm
 
I suppose Israel  considers Hamas like a cancer -

no matter how horrible &   bloody the operation -

you have to cut that cancer out.
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Reply #444 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:54pm
 
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 9:59pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 2:07pm:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 12:21pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 12:12pm:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 12:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 11:54am:
Dear Chicken,
there is no safe place in Gaza for civilians.


There is usually no safe place for civilians caught up in any war eh.
Perhaps they can go to the southern checkpoint that the Egyptians control eh.
Which is probably not a bad idea considering the Israeli government and the IDF's long awaited determination to destroy Hamas once and for all.
No point in stopping again with the job only half done.



There would be no room for 1.8 million poor souls there -
most of them caught up in a war they want nothing to do with.

you are forgiven for flippancy

namaste


You mean to say their Islamic brothers in Egypt would not give the Gazan's shelter?
I'm sure 1.8 million people could fit in an area the size of ten football ovals comfortably.
If the Rolling Stones can hold a free concert a few years ago on a beach in South America in front of 1 million concert goers, I'm sure 1.8 million can fit in a larger area on the southern border with Egypt eh.
The real question is would Hamas allow people to leave Gaza?



But it's not Egypt that's dropping bombs, is it? What is it with the constant blame-shifting of rabid Zionists?

The children are dying because Israel are wiping them out. The retaliation in Rafah has been worse than anything we've seen so far - all for a 'kidnapped' soldier who was already dead. Quite the convenienet excuse to level an entire town.

And the IDF snipers shoot civilians while they're combing the rubble for a sign of loved ones. And if they don't kill them with the first shot, they shoot them while theyre lying wounded on the ground until they do.

A most moral military.



Hamas was not concerned about Jewish children when it started this war and the one before it.

When war is started, the idea is that you kill the enemy. Hamas followed this principle by lobbing rockets in order to kill the enemy - the Jews. Not soldiers, not grown ups - just the enemy, the Jews.

The Jews, in response, are shooting back and started with warning texts, phone calls, dummy shells. Now, it's about killing the enemy.


That's war - and it ends when one side knows it's beaten.



This will stop when either Hamas asks for a cease fire or when the Jews are satisfied that Hamas is destroyed. 


This is not a war between the 'children' and the IDF. It is between Hamas and Israel.


The sad thing about the Arabs is that they do not want to realise )partly because it is against their religion) that after WWII you can't bugger with the Jews at will. That's it. Israel is not going to give in because the Jews know that once they give in, that's the end of Israel.
Hamas knows that, even if you don't, and that's why they are literally throwing their children into the fire, to force Israel to give in. But it's simply not going to happen. You can demonise the Jews a much as you like but everyone knows that Israel doesn't want to destroy Islam and the Arab nations but wants peace, recognition and security while the Arabs want to destroy Israel at any cost and they do not accept its existence.

Hamas and ISIS and the Taleban and Boko Haram and all the other crazy Islamists are sacrificing their children to this animosity towards the Jews.
These children are sacrificed by the Muslims to the Muslims' insatiable hatred of Jews.




"We, Hamas, will never be defeated by the evil Zionist State!"

"We, Hamas, pledge to Allah, that we will fight against the evil Zionists,      ....until the last Gazan mother and the last Gazan child is dead!"
             Cheesyi Quote:

"Moderate" Palestinian Authority TV:
'Palestinian children created to fertilize the land with their blood'


"Our children are our glory and honor,

they were created to be fertilizer for the land of Palestine,

and for our pure land to be saturated with their blood."



http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/moderate-palestinian-authority-tv-palestinian-...

ALLAH AKBAR!!!!!!!



Google;
"Palestinian children created to fertilize the land with their blood"








Demanding that Israel does not 'shoot back' - whenever Hamas militants are found to be crouching behind a woman who is holding a small child in her arms - is choosing to surrender to Hamas's terrorist tactics, and is giving Hamas terrorists immunity in their 'freedom fighting' violence.
Bibi explains it better that i can....


Israeli PM Netanyahu on CNN - FULL INTERVIEW 7_27_2014
                 goto 7m 05s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pximx9vbXtE



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Reply #445 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:57pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:31pm:
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:27pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:17pm:
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:05pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 4:59pm:
The only reason Gazan civilians are dying is because Israel is dropping bombs on them. Rationalise it all you want, but without the bombs there would be no dead.

I get it now. Gaza will not recover from this. There is a narrative emerging that isn't new for the Israelis and their supporters, but is appearing in new places.

In a few years, Israel will have absorbed Gaza and resettled the Palestinian people elsewhere.  What a tragedy - the 'final solution', I guess. We will have the true Catastrophe that the Israelis and their asshole supporters have been wanting since '48.

Israel doesn't need or want Gaza. It has always been Philistine territory.

But Hamas will be destroyed as a governing force. Egypt is destroying its paymasters the Muslim Brotherhood, Israel is destroying its tunnels and arsenal.

Islam meets modernity.




What - if anything - could Israel do that would be too much for you? Do you stand with Israel blindly no matter what?




There was peace until Hamas started the rockets. The way you deal with a bully like Hamas is that you do not start a war but when they start it, you hit back without mercy. Especially the third time.

This is not the first time Hamas has been shelling Israel from Gaza. They have been in control of Gaza for 9 years now. They have done NOTHING for their people, they spent all that aid money on tunnels, rockets and high living. And they have been shelling Israel under the cover of 'international opinion' all along.

Enough is enough. Israel would be remiss if they didn't destroy Hamas this time around. In a war, one side needs to know it's beaten. There is no end until then. And it's not going to be the Jews. Wake up.









I know your opinion on that. I've read lots that are similar.

What I asked was: is there a line for you personally that Israel could cross that would make you question or withdraw your support?


Inherent in your question is an equation of Hamas, ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood, Iranian ayatollas, Saudi bastards - and Israel.

I do not accept that equivalence. Not all Middle R=Eastern powers are the same.

Israel is a real country, a real liberal democracy, with a real and open goal. There is no hidden agenda, there is no conspiracy. It is a remarkably normal country (considering the circumstances).

I also think that it will never ever capitulate to the open and often-stated Arab desire to destroy it.


So what would a normal, functioning liberal democracy, under constant siege by forces of backward despotism do to defend itself that I would find a step too far?

Giving in and not hitting back as hard as necessary would be a line in the sand for me. If Israel did not defend itself as it is now then I would say it doesn't deserve to exist and so I would not be on its side.

Does that answer your question?





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Reply #446 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 11:01pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:24pm:
Dear Soren,
It is all to do with  Palestinians living under apartheid.

The Israelis want them to leave so they are making their life hell.

No smart Palestinian would stay in Gaza.

Bollocks.
Israel left Gaza in the hope of either giving the Palestinians a chance to show what they can do a as far as nation building is concerned - or to let the Palestinians act as they do and so show the world that the Palestinians are no people deserving nationhood.
The Israeli naivity was to think that the second possibility will be perceived by the world.



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Reply #447 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 11:02pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:24pm:
Dear Soren,
It is all to do with  Palestinians living under apartheid.

The Israelis want them to leave so they are making their life hell.

No smart Palestinian would stay in Gaza.




Really ?


bobby - you are a mensa graduate ?

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Reply #448 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 11:10pm
 
Yadda wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 11:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:24pm:
Dear Soren,
It is all to do with  Palestinians living under apartheid.

The Israelis want them to leave so they are making their life hell.

No smart Palestinian would stay in Gaza.




Really ?


bobby - you are a mensa graduate ?



Yadda, are you a Mossad graduate or do you just hate live people?
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Reply #449 - Aug 3rd, 2014 at 11:14pm
 
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 11:01pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:24pm:
Dear Soren,
It is all to do with  Palestinians living under apartheid.

The Israelis want them to leave so they are making their life hell.

No smart Palestinian would stay in Gaza.

Bollocks.
Israel left Gaza in the hope of either giving the Palestinians a chance to show what they can do a as far as nation building is concerned - or to let the Palestinians act as they do and so show the world that the Palestinians are no people deserving nationhood.
The Israeli naivity was to think that the second possibility will be perceived by the world.



But Israel controlled the Land, sea & air around Gaza &
wouldn't let normal goods or many people in & out.
They turned Gaza into a prison.

One of the first things they did in this war was to destroy the only power supply network
so no one will have electricity for 18 months.
The sewerage system is now not operating.
Perhaps 100,000 people will now die of disease?

The Israelis have done everything to make it impossible to live a normal life in Gaza
so that the Palestinians would leave.
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