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Question: Who can we blame for the war in Gaza?

Israel    
  3 (21.4%)
Hamas    
  6 (42.9%)
Palestinians    
  0 (0.0%)
The USA    
  1 (7.1%)
Egypt    
  0 (0.0%)
Iran    
  0 (0.0%)
All of the above    
  2 (14.3%)
Freemasons    
  2 (14.3%)




Total votes: 14
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Reply #495 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:49pm
 
Karmal , its not all downside.
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Reply #496 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:53pm
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/anthony-albanese-condemns-israels-bombardme...

Anthony Albanese condemns Israel’s bombardment of Gaza
THE AUSTRALIAN AUGUST 01, 2014 1:57PM

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Smoke billows from buildings following an Israeli air strike in Rafah. Source: AFP
ANTHONY Albanese has joined left-wing Labor backbenchers in condemning Israel’s bombardment of the Gaza Strip as “collective punishment” in breach of international law.

The remarks by Mr Albanese, a leader of the ALP’s left faction, came a day after Labor’s leadership team of Bill Shorten and Tanya Plibersek released a measured statement that declined to prejudge Israeli involvement in the shelling of a school sheltering Palestinian refugees.

More than two-dozen Labor Left MPs have already joined Greens and independent parliamentarians to sign a petition condemning Israeli action in the Gaza Strip, describing the “collective punishment” as “a war crime”.

Ceasefire a reprieve from Gaza violence

Mr Albanese, speaking before a 72-hour humanitarian ceasefire was announced this morning, said the Israeli campaign amounted to “collective punishment” and was “completely unacceptable”.

“What we saw this week the bombing of a school where people essentially had gone to seek refuge. That is unacceptable,” he told the Nine Network

“It is unacceptable for Hamas to fire rockets into Israel, but the collective punishment is against all the rules of engagement and Israel must stop these actions.

“At the moment we are seeing a child killed every hour in Gaza.”

The Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 lists “collective punishment” as a war crime.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott, asked today if he deplored Israeli actions, said: “I deplore the indiscriminate rain of missiles from Gaza on to Israel. I deplore any actions that result in civilians deaths, and obviously we’ve seen far too much of that over the last few weeks.”

Government frontbencher Christopher Pyne, who returned from Israel yesterday, said Israelis were understandably fearful of Hamas rocket fire and underground tunnels.

“That doesn’t mean that Israel’s response is acceptable and the deaths of civilians, particularly children, but any civilian, is one of great tragedy,” he said.

“When I was in Israel there was a ceasefire that Hamas instantaneously broke. You have to understand from Israel’s point of perspective it’s a very, very difficult situation.”

Bill Shorten and Tanya Plibersek, in a joint statement, yesterday said Labor was “appalled by the recent shelling of a UN school in a Gaza refugee camp, and attacks on similar facilities”.

“Labor deplores the abuse of civilian facilities for military purposes, including a Gaza school that was used to hide rockets.

Hamas must stop firing rockets into Israel — more than 2600 so far, and Israel must restrain its response, which has cost far too many civilian lives.”

A petition condemning Israel, spearheaded by Fremantle Labor MP Melissa Parke, this morning recorded the signatures of 54 state and federal MPs, including 30 Labor officials.

“The rockets fired from Gaza are not in any way justified and insofar as they threaten and harm civilians are illegal under international law. However, these imprecise rockets cannot be compared with the broad-scale bombing of Gaza by Israel which has one of the world’s largest military forces,” the petition read.

“Collective punishment is not permitted under the Geneva conventions and is a war crime.”
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Reply #497 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:03pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:58am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:53am:
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:27pm:
There was peace until Hamas started the rockets. The way you deal with a bully like Hamas is that you do not start a war but when they start it, you hit back without mercy. Especially the third time.

This is not the first time Hamas has been shelling Israel from Gaza. They have been in control of Gaza for 9 years now. They have done NOTHING for their people, they spent all that aid money on tunnels, rockets and high living. And they have been shelling Israel under the cover of 'international opinion' all along.

Enough is enough. Israel would be remiss if they didn't destroy Hamas this time around. In a war, one side needs to know it's beaten. There is no end until then. And it's not going to be the Jews. Wake up.


Excellent editorial piece.



Except that after a certain number of civilian casualties Israel will be told to stop by Obama.

Hamas will still be there.



Obama can stop this any time he wants to.
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Reply #498 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:04pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:03pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:58am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:53am:
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:27pm:
There was peace until Hamas started the rockets. The way you deal with a bully like Hamas is that you do not start a war but when they start it, you hit back without mercy. Especially the third time.

This is not the first time Hamas has been shelling Israel from Gaza. They have been in control of Gaza for 9 years now. They have done NOTHING for their people, they spent all that aid money on tunnels, rockets and high living. And they have been shelling Israel under the cover of 'international opinion' all along.

Enough is enough. Israel would be remiss if they didn't destroy Hamas this time around. In a war, one side needs to know it's beaten. There is no end until then. And it's not going to be the Jews. Wake up.


Excellent editorial piece.



Except that after a certain number of civilian casualties Israel will be told to stop by Obama.

Hamas will still be there.



Obama can stop this any time he wants to.


No, he really can't.....
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Reply #499 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:12pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:49pm:
Karmal , its not all downside.
think of the tourist dollar with the new 2000 hole golf course the israelis have built them


You’ve always looked on the bright side, dear.When you’re given lemons, make lemonade.

As a farmer, what do you do with a surplus of minced meat of freshly-killed Palestinians?
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Reply #500 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:14pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:03pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:58am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:53am:
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:27pm:
There was peace until Hamas started the rockets. The way you deal with a bully like Hamas is that you do not start a war but when they start it, you hit back without mercy. Especially the third time.

This is not the first time Hamas has been shelling Israel from Gaza. They have been in control of Gaza for 9 years now. They have done NOTHING for their people, they spent all that aid money on tunnels, rockets and high living. And they have been shelling Israel under the cover of 'international opinion' all along.

Enough is enough. Israel would be remiss if they didn't destroy Hamas this time around. In a war, one side needs to know it's beaten. There is no end until then. And it's not going to be the Jews. Wake up.


Excellent editorial piece.



Except that after a certain number of civilian casualties Israel will be told to stop by Obama.

Hamas will still be there.



Obama can stop this any time he wants to.


No he can’t. Israel is out on its own on this. Israel is always out on its own - they will always act on their own.

All the Yanks can do is plead with them to stop, which is the way it usually works.
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Reply #501 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:14pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:04pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:03pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:58am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:53am:
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:27pm:
There was peace until Hamas started the rockets. The way you deal with a bully like Hamas is that you do not start a war but when they start it, you hit back without mercy. Especially the third time.

This is not the first time Hamas has been shelling Israel from Gaza. They have been in control of Gaza for 9 years now. They have done NOTHING for their people, they spent all that aid money on tunnels, rockets and high living. And they have been shelling Israel under the cover of 'international opinion' all along.

Enough is enough. Israel would be remiss if they didn't destroy Hamas this time around. In a war, one side needs to know it's beaten. There is no end until then. And it's not going to be the Jews. Wake up.


Excellent editorial piece.



Except that after a certain number of civilian casualties Israel will be told to stop by Obama.

Hamas will still be there.



Obama can stop this any time he wants to.


No, he really can't.....


Really -
what about the $3 billion a year in military aid given to Israel by the USA?

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Reply #502 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:23pm
 
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ceasefirenow/

Gaza - Ceasefire Now!
CEASEFIRE NOW! The escalation in and around the Gaza Strip is causing terrible suffering to people - to men, women, elderly and children, Palestinian as well as Israeli civilians. The military offensive conducted by the Israeli armed forces has so far caused hundreds of Palestinian casualties; many of them were unarmed civilians. The siege and economic blockade have reduced most of the Gaza Strip\'s population to abject poverty, devastated its economy, and caused the death of critically ill patients, denied access to vital treatment.

Sign this petition
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Reply #503 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:29pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:12pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:49pm:
Karmal , its not all downside.
think of the tourist dollar with the new 2000 hole golf course the israelis have built them


You’ve always looked on the bright side, dear.When you’re given lemons, make lemonade.

As a farmer, what do you do with a surplus of minced meat of freshly-killed Palestinians?



karmal, many have tried to bring just ice   to the people of palestine. Unfortunately , by the time you get there its usually melted.
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Reply #504 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:30pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:23pm:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ceasefirenow/

Gaza - Ceasefire Now!
CEASEFIRE NOW! The escalation in and around the Gaza Strip is causing terrible suffering to people - to men, women, elderly and children, Palestinian as well as Israeli civilians. The military offensive conducted by the Israeli armed forces has so far caused hundreds of Palestinian casualties; many of them were unarmed civilians. The siege and economic blockade have reduced most of the Gaza Strip\'s population to abject poverty, devastated its economy, and caused the death of critically ill patients, denied access to vital treatment.

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get back to massive global eruptions please.
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Reply #505 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:32pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:30pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:23pm:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ceasefirenow/

Gaza - Ceasefire Now!
CEASEFIRE NOW! The escalation in and around the Gaza Strip is causing terrible suffering to people - to men, women, elderly and children, Palestinian as well as Israeli civilians. The military offensive conducted by the Israeli armed forces has so far caused hundreds of Palestinian casualties; many of them were unarmed civilians. The siege and economic blockade have reduced most of the Gaza Strip\'s population to abject poverty, devastated its economy, and caused the death of critically ill patients, denied access to vital treatment.

Sign this petition



get back to massive global eruptions please.


too hot for you ?

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facts = truth

continual murder of civilians is genocide
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Reply #506 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 9:28pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:12pm:
aquascoot wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:49pm:
Karmal , its not all downside.
think of the tourist dollar with the new 2000 hole golf course the israelis have built them


You’ve always looked on the bright side, dear.When you’re given lemons, make lemonade.

As a farmer, what do you do with a surplus of minced meat of freshly-killed Palestinians?


Feed the camels of course.
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Reply #507 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 9:38pm
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/gaza/11006087/Israel-Gaza-c...

Israel-Gaza conflict - live
Reports an eight-year-old girl was killed and 30 wounded after a strike hit a house in the beachfront Shati refugee camp just minutes into the unilateral ceasefire announced by Israel, follow the latest developments

• A child and at least 29 were injured after a strike on Shati refugee camp
• Temporary ceasefire by Israel begins for seven hours
• The ceasefire does not take place in Rafah where clashes are ongoing
• Palestinians claim Israel has broken its own ceasefire after a house was bombed
• 10 people, including children, were killed in a missile attack near a UN school
• Israeli airstrike kills militant leader in the Gaza Strip
• Watch live views of Gaza City and the south Israel border
• More than 1,800 Palestinians and more than 60 Israelis dead
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Reply #508 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 10:04pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:14pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:04pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 8:03pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:58am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:53am:
Soren wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:27pm:
There was peace until Hamas started the rockets. The way you deal with a bully like Hamas is that you do not start a war but when they start it, you hit back without mercy. Especially the third time.

This is not the first time Hamas has been shelling Israel from Gaza. They have been in control of Gaza for 9 years now. They have done NOTHING for their people, they spent all that aid money on tunnels, rockets and high living. And they have been shelling Israel under the cover of 'international opinion' all along.

Enough is enough. Israel would be remiss if they didn't destroy Hamas this time around. In a war, one side needs to know it's beaten. There is no end until then. And it's not going to be the Jews. Wake up.


Excellent editorial piece.



Except that after a certain number of civilian casualties Israel will be told to stop by Obama.

Hamas will still be there.



Obama can stop this any time he wants to.


No, he really can't.....


Really -
what about the $3 billion a year in military aid given to Israel by the USA?



What about it?? Do you really truly think that gives the US any real power over Israel??
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Reply #509 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 10:40pm
 
Sir Bobby
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Really -
what about the $3 billion a year in military aid given to Israel by the USA?



Gizmo
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What about it?? Do you really truly think that gives the US any real power over Israel??


Of course it does - Israel would collapse without the Yanks.

I think that's the ultimate gamer plan of Hamas - turn world opinion against Israel - namely US opinion - & Hamas wins.

In my opinion the whole lot of them in the Middle East are a bunch of lunatic savages.

Just look at the savagery of ISIS & the Libyans.
All Arabs are savages  & Israel is surrounded by them & has become just as savage to fight back.
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