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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Israel invades Gaza Reply #75 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:03am Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:37am: For my own sanity, I have to believe that you people who don't care just aren't thinking. Not at all. Hamas has thought this through very carefully and they are achieving their objective. They have put a lot of thought into it.
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Reply #76 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:06am

Soren wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:03am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:37am:

For my own sanity, I have to believe that you people who don't care just aren't thinking.

Not at all. Hamas has thought this through very carefully and they are achieving their objective. They have put a lot of thought into it.

Don't be deliberately obtuse, Soren. It doesn't suit.

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Reply #77 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:08am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:37am:

For my own sanity, I have to believe that you people who don't care just aren't thinking.

Surely if you just thought about how terrifying this war must be, you'd have to feel some empathy. At least for the children and the frail. For the parents who lose their children.

Annie,

And, if at this very moment, Israel stopped the assault against Gaza [militants - in Gaza]

- the rockets from Gaza - being launched by Hamas - against civilians, in Israeli cities and towns would continue.

Annie,

But that would be OK.

Right ?

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Reply #78 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:13am

Yadda wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:08am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:37am:

For my own sanity, I have to believe that you people who don't care just aren't thinking.

Surely if you just thought about how terrifying this war must be, you'd have to feel some empathy. At least for the children and the frail. For the parents who lose their children.

Annie,

And, if at this very moment, Israel stopped the assault against Gaza [militants - in Gaza]

- the rockets from in Gaza - being launched by Hamas - against civilians, in Israeli cities and towns would continue.

Annie,

But that would be OK.

Right ?

Thank you for trying to keep your font relatively normal.

No, it wouldn't be okay. I feel no compassion for Hamas soldiers. Proper Hamas soldiers. If there was a way of fighting a war between Hamas and the IDF without the civilians dying, I wouldn't care who was killed. Soldiers choose to participate.

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Reply #79 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:16am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:44am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:41am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:30am:

Herbert, you'll no doubt be pleased to know that the IDF are using flechette shells against the Palestinians. When flechette shells explode, thousands of sharp, pointy darts can tear anyone unlucky enough to be standing within about 300 metres.

That's awful.

War is Hell.

Why has Hamas not been taken to face war crimes at the International Court in The Hague when year after year they initiate rocket assaults against civilian targets in Israel ... with predictable repercussions from the Israeli military?

Would you like to answer that, instead of sneaking off to the Ladies until I've gone away? Cool

The rockets are ineffective for their purpose. They very rarely hurt anyone.

But I agree. The members of Hamas should be strung up for giving Israel the excuse. I read the other day that Khaled Mishal denied responsibility for the murder of the three Jewish boys, but said the people who did it are "blessed." For that alone, he should be shot.

How do you feel about the Palestinian teens who were murdered before the Israelis?

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Before 3 Israeli teens were killed, 2 Palestinian teens were murdered in cold blood

Shooting deaths of two Palestinian teens forgotten amid the killing of 3 Israeli teens. Israel deflected debate after CNN released video of Israeli soldier killing unarmed boys; murders weren’t condemned...

http://www.adsagainstapartheid.com/before-3-israeli-teens-were-killed-2-palestinian-teens-suffered-the-same-fate/

Video footage indicates killed Palestinian youths posed no threat

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/20/video-indicates-killed-palestinian-youths-no-threat-israeli-forces

How do you feel about the rabbis who encourage the killing of Palestinian children, and who have their salaries paid by the Israeli Government?

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Reply #80 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:16am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:44am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:41am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:30am:

Herbert, you'll no doubt be pleased to know that the IDF are using flechette shells against the Palestinians. When flechette shells explode, thousands of sharp, pointy darts can tear anyone unlucky enough to be standing within about 300 metres.

That's awful.

War is Hell.

Why has Hamas not been taken to face war crimes at the International Court in The Hague when year after year they initiate rocket assaults against civilian targets in Israel ... with predictable repercussions from the Israeli military?

Would you like to answer that, instead of sneaking off to the Ladies until I've gone away? Cool

The rockets are ineffective for their purpose.

They very rarely hurt anyone.

You are mistaken.

Even though they do not kill many Israelis, the rockets ARE terrorising Israeli civilians - INCLUDING MOTHERS, AND SMALL CHILDREN.i Quote:

But I agree. The members of Hamas should be strung up for giving Israel the excuse. I read the other day that Khaled Mishal denied responsibility for the murder of the three Jewish boys, but said the people who did it are "blessed." For that alone, he should be shot.

Annie,

Thank you at least, for that concession.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Israel invades Gaza Reply #81 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:35am I hear you Yadda! Maintain the RAGE!!
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Reply #82 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:50am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:37am:

I could probably write your callousness off if you just didn't care, but you seem to take some kind of pleasure in the suffering of the people there - that's frightening.

Who? Me? Yadda?

Those children ~ (and God bless 'em) ~ are/were destined to grow up hating Israel with a genocidal passion.

They are/were destined for future Western TV news viewers to see them as young adults engaged in attempting to wipe out the Israelis with rockets and any other means that came to hand.

The children of my enemies are not 'innocent' if taken in the context of their future potential for harming my people.

I feel very sorry for these Palestinian kids suffering as they now are, but I'm also not so naive as to ignore what they are destined to grow up to be: gun-toting terrorists against Israel.

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Reply #83 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:58am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:44am:

The rockets are ineffective for their purpose. They very rarely hurt anyone.

What? Are you serious?

For my own sanity I'm going to pretend I didn't read that. Cool

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:44am:

But I agree. The members of Hamas should be strung up for giving Israel the excuse.

'Excuse'... ? That's a weasel-word in this context.

Don't you mean 'reason'.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:44am:

I read the other day that Khaled Mishal denied responsibility for the murder of the three Jewish boys, but said the people who did it are "blessed." For that alone, he should be shot.

Agreed.

I'll even trump you by saying the Jews who burned that Palestian kid alive should also be shot.

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Reply #84 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 11:00am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:50am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:37am:

I could probably write your callousness off if you just didn't care, but you seem to take some kind of pleasure in the suffering of the people there - that's frightening.

Who? Me? Yadda?

Those children ~ (and God bless 'em) ~ are/were destined to grow up hating Israel with a genocidal passion.

In spite of Israel's campaign to win hearts and minds Roll Eyes

Don't be silly, Herb. Having your family killed or your home with everything you own in it demolished is a far more effective radicaliser than the any parent.

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Reply #85 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 11:55am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:06am:

Soren wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:03am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:37am:

For my own sanity, I have to believe that you people who don't care just aren't thinking.

Not at all. Hamas has thought this through very carefully and they are achieving their objective. They have put a lot of thought into it.

Don't be deliberately obtuse, Soren. It doesn't suit.

She's got the claws out, Soren ... better wear your flak jacket for awhile.

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Reply #86 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 12:03pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 11:00am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:50am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:37am:

I could probably write your callousness off if you just didn't care, but you seem to take some kind of pleasure in the suffering of the people there - that's frightening.

Who? Me? Yadda?

Those children ~ (and God bless 'em) ~ are/were destined to grow up hating Israel with a genocidal passion.

In spite of Israel's campaign to win hearts and minds Roll Eyes

The coaching is coming from not just the Palestinian adults, but from all of the Muslim Middle East.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 11:00am:

Don't be silly, Herb. Having your family killed or your home with everything you own in it demolished is a far more effective radicaliser than the any parent.

The ordinary citizens would know from broadcasts that Hamas is always the one to provoke the Israelis into retaliatory fire. That can't be kept a secret, even without the broadcasts.

They see and hear rockets being fired from one of their residential neighbourhoods ... and surprise! surprise! ... a few days later Israeli rockets start raining down on them.

When this pattern is repeated often enough, then the locals are under no delusions as to who is at fault for their miseries.

Get a clue, Annie.

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Reply #87 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:46pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 11:00am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:50am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:37am:

I could probably write your callousness off if you just didn't care, but you seem to take some kind of pleasure in the suffering of the people there - that's frightening.

Who? Me? Yadda?

Those children ~ (and God bless 'em) ~ are/were destined to grow up hating Israel with a genocidal passion.

In spite of Israel's campaign to win hearts and minds Roll Eyes

Don't be silly, Herb. Having your family killed or your home with everything you own in it demolished is a far more effective radicaliser than the any parent.

Annie, if you do not see that this is all Hamas's doing then you are blind.

Before Hamas started firing rockets, it was quiet.
Hamas started firing rockets -the Jews hit back as they should.

To get all flustered by the consequences of provoking a response is utterly, utterly dishonest.

Israel takes its responsibilities for its children seriously.
Hamas does not. If they did, they would not START these kinds of confrontations.

Here's an awful truth - the Palestinians will not desist until enough of them are killed for them to know that it is time to stop. You can't reasons with them.

They will stop when it's worth their while to stop sacrificing their own children. They love death more than they love their own children. You can't cure that from here.

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metal_j Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 141	Re: Israel invades Gaza Reply #88 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:49pm Israeli sniper killing wounded civilian
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Israel invades Gaza Reply #89 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:05pm metal_j wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 9:49pm: Israeli sniper killing wounded civilian Why did Hamas start to shell Israel?
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Question: Who can we blame for the war in Gaza?
Israel 3 (21.4%) Hamas 6 (42.9%) Palestinians 0 (0.0%) The USA 1 (7.1%) Egypt 0 (0.0%) Iran 0 (0.0%) All of the above 2 (14.3%) Freemasons 2 (14.3%) Total votes: 14 « Last Modified by: Bobby. on: Aug 9^th, 2014 at 6:16pm »