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The first Australian suicide bomber
Jul 18^th, 2014 at 10:46am

The first Australian suicide bomber in Iraq reportedly killed three people in the heart of Baghdad on Thursday, raising the involvement of local jihadists in the spiralling violence to a chilling new level.

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) announced on an affiliated Twitter feed overnight that a man called Abu Bakr al-Australi had detonated an explosives vest near a Shiite mosque in a market near the middle of the Iraqi capital. More than 90 people were also injured in the blast.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/first-australian-suicide-b...

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Reply #1 - Jul 18^th, 2014 at 9:54pm

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And meanwhile Labour and the Greens in parliament are seeking to block about security measures targeting potential terrorists as they see it as being an invasion of privacy. The invasion of my privacy at the moment is seeing people on the streets here who are campaigning for Islamic fundamentalist change to our free and democratic society. Unless migrants can prove they are accepting of Australia's open, modern democratic culture keep them out. I am sick of those that believe in a multi cultural society which at the same time is eroding the wonderful free society we already have. Unless immigrants can prove they are open to modern change and accepting of Australian culture keep them out. I don't want to live in some tribalised slum, and that's where Australia is heading given the myopic policies of the immigration department who accept anyone with any values.]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/australian-suicide-bomber-kills-five-people...

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Reply #2 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 12:40am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 9:54pm:

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And meanwhile Labour and the Greens in parliament are seeking to block about security measures targeting potential terrorists as they see it as being an invasion of privacy. The invasion of my privacy at the moment is seeing people on the streets here who are campaigning for Islamic fundamentalist change to our free and democratic society. Unless migrants can prove they are accepting of Australia's open, modern democratic culture keep them out. I am sick of those that believe in a multi cultural society which at the same time is eroding the wonderful free society we already have. Unless immigrants can prove they are open to modern change and accepting of Australian culture keep them out. I don't want to live in some tribalised slum, and that's where Australia is heading given the myopic policies of the immigration department who accept anyone with any values.]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/australian-suicide-bomber-kills-five-people...

deport any Islamic from Aussie

And how can you deport Australian citizens born in Australia from their home country, Sprint?

Such levels of intolerance are amazing even for you.

As for The Australian, we know what Rupert thinks about others being free to think things differently to him. Erosion of civil liberties is a far greater danger to our society because of fear and panic about a tiny minority of different people in our midst, is something we should all be fearful of while proposing to destroy their citizenship is dangerous thought we should resist always.

To misquote Pastor Niemoller:

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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Muslim.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

You are a sick, intolerant person who expresses bigotry towards Muslims.

As John Stuart Mill suggested, "Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing." I refuse to look on, Sprint and I will resist you and your ilk as much as I am able to.

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Re: The first Australian suicide bomber
Reply #3 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 2:10am

I think in your case Brian, it should be

First they came for the Pedophiles, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Pedophile.

Then they came for the Murderous thugs, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Murderous thug.

Then they came for the Rapists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Rapist.

Then they came for the White ants, and I di..........

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Re: The first Australian suicide bomber
Reply #4 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 12:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 12:40am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 9:54pm:

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And meanwhile Labour and the Greens in parliament are seeking to block about security measures targeting potential terrorists as they see it as being an invasion of privacy. The invasion of my privacy at the moment is seeing people on the streets here who are campaigning for Islamic fundamentalist change to our free and democratic society. Unless migrants can prove they are accepting of Australia's open, modern democratic culture keep them out. I am sick of those that believe in a multi cultural society which at the same time is eroding the wonderful free society we already have. Unless immigrants can prove they are open to modern change and accepting of Australian culture keep them out. I don't want to live in some tribalised slum, and that's where Australia is heading given the myopic policies of the immigration department who accept anyone with any values.]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/australian-suicide-bomber-kills-five-people...

deport any Islamic from Aussie

And how can you deport Australian citizens born in Australia from their home country, Sprint?

Such levels of intolerance are amazing even for you.

As for The Australian, we know what Rupert thinks about others being free to think things differently to him. Erosion of civil liberties is a far greater danger to our society because of fear and panic about a tiny minority of different people in our midst, is something we should all be fearful of while proposing to destroy their citizenship is dangerous thought we should resist always.

To misquote Pastor Niemoller:

Quote:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Muslim.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

You are a sick, intolerant person who expresses bigotry towards Muslims.

As John Stuart Mill suggested, "Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing." I refuse to look on, Sprint and I will resist you and your ilk as much as I am able to.

Then they came for the Shites, but I did not speak out, for it is politically incorrect to criticise Muslims for strapping on explosive vests and walking into Mosques.

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Phemanderac Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3507 Gender:	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #5 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 12:41pm Damn, they came for the white ants and Poo couldn't finish his first ever post off. Should we be reading something into that?
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Re: The first Australian suicide bomber
Reply #6 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 12:53pm

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 12:40pm:

Then they came for the Shites, but I did not speak out, for it is politically incorrect to criticise Muslims for strapping on explosive vests and walking into Mosques.

Thats nice FD - and yet I didn't see Brian make one mention of not wanting to criticise suicide bombers who blow up worshippers at mosques.

What he did criticise though was the call for all "islamics" [sic] to be deported from Australia.

What do you think about the actual statement that Brian was talking about? Was it something that you would join Brian in condemning? Or do you prefer spinelessly apologising for it by building strawmen to attack Brian?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: The first Australian suicide bomber
Reply #7 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 1:00pm

brumbie wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 10:46am:

The first Australian suicide bomber in Iraq reportedly killed three people in the heart of Baghdad on Thursday, raising the involvement of local jihadists in the spiralling violence to a chilling new level.

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) announced on an affiliated Twitter feed overnight that a man called Abu Bakr al-Australi had detonated an explosives vest near a Shiite mosque in a market near the middle of the Iraqi capital. More than 90 people were also injured in the blast.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/first-australian-suicide-b...

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Sydney muslim Mohammad Elomar welcomed the news on his twitter account- 'may Allah accept him"

Muslims believe you will go to heaven for being suicidal and homicidal, of course the rewards from Allah are up to 72 houris with an everlasting erection to service them along with rivers of wine, think of the Islamic afterlife as a whorehouse combined with a tavern.

While muslims believe they will be rewarded for terrorist acts they will keep happening.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #8 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 1:32pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 1:00pm: Muslims believe you will go to heaven for being suicidal and homicida Lets not generalise Baron - there's at least one muslim who doesn't fit your caricature.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18574 Gender:	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #9 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 2:02pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 1:32pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 1:00pm: Muslims believe you will go to heaven for being suicidal and homicida Lets not generalise Baron - there's at least one muslim who doesn't fit your caricature. What only one out of a billion muslims
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40763 Gender:	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #10 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 2:09pm there have been many muslim terrorists before him who claimed from Australia. charge the mosques here for the expenses we incur coming from them
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Re: The first Australian suicide bomber
Reply #11 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 2:17pm

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 12:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 12:40am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 9:54pm:

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And meanwhile Labour and the Greens in parliament are seeking to block about security measures targeting potential terrorists as they see it as being an invasion of privacy. The invasion of my privacy at the moment is seeing people on the streets here who are campaigning for Islamic fundamentalist change to our free and democratic society. Unless migrants can prove they are accepting of Australia's open, modern democratic culture keep them out. I am sick of those that believe in a multi cultural society which at the same time is eroding the wonderful free society we already have. Unless immigrants can prove they are open to modern change and accepting of Australian culture keep them out. I don't want to live in some tribalised slum, and that's where Australia is heading given the myopic policies of the immigration department who accept anyone with any values.]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/australian-suicide-bomber-kills-five-people...

deport any Islamic from Aussie

And how can you deport Australian citizens born in Australia from their home country, Sprint?

Such levels of intolerance are amazing even for you.

As for The Australian, we know what Rupert thinks about others being free to think things differently to him. Erosion of civil liberties is a far greater danger to our society because of fear and panic about a tiny minority of different people in our midst, is something we should all be fearful of while proposing to destroy their citizenship is dangerous thought we should resist always.

To misquote Pastor Niemoller:

Quote:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Muslim.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

You are a sick, intolerant person who expresses bigotry towards Muslims.

As John Stuart Mill suggested, "Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing." I refuse to look on, Sprint and I will resist you and your ilk as much as I am able to.

Then they came for the Shites, but I did not speak out, for it is politically incorrect to criticise Muslims for strapping on explosive vests and walking into Mosques.

Is it, FD? Perhaps you'd care to demonstrate where I have ever suggested such a thing or is your new game thatching?

So, perhaps you'd care to speak to the point. Is it OK for Australian citizens to have their citizenships revoked, en masse, even if they were born within the borders of Australia (or it's territories) and committed no crime other than it seems sharing the name of their religion with some exremists overseas?

What's next? You'd support the idea that the children of Muslims should be removed and raised as Christians to satisfy your views that ALL Muslims are guilty of being well, Muslims? Afterall, the Australian Government did it to our indigenous Australians, now didn't they when they attempted Genocide against them. Would you have supported that as well? After all, the Indigenes weren't Christians, either. Roll Eyes

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Re: The first Australian suicide bomber
Reply #12 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 2:20pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

there have been many muslim terrorists before him who claimed from Australia.

charge the mosques here for the expenses we incur coming from them

What expenses?

Why haven't you answered my question, Sprint? Unable to?

Here it is again, in case you missed it the first time:

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how can you deport Australian citizens born in Australia from their home country, Sprint?

Please answer it. Roll Eyes

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Reply #13 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 2:22pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 12:40pm:

Then they came for the Shites, but I did not speak out, for it is politically incorrect to criticise Muslims for strapping on explosive vests and walking into Mosques.

Thats nice FD - and yet I didn't see Brian make one mention of not wanting to criticise suicide bombers who blow up worshippers at mosques.

What he did criticise though was the call for all "islamics" [sic] to be deported from Australia.

What do you think about the actual statement that Brian was talking about? Was it something that you would join Brian in condemning? Or do you prefer spinelessly apologising for it by building strawmen to attack Brian?

Don't worry, Gandalf, it's just FD up to his usual tricks, being an apologist for Sprint's appalling views on Muslims because he seems to share them. Roll Eyes

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Re: The first Australian suicide bomber
Reply #14 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 8:32pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 12:40pm:

Then they came for the Shites, but I did not speak out, for it is politically incorrect to criticise Muslims for strapping on explosive vests and walking into Mosques.

Thats nice FD - and yet I didn't see Brian make one mention of not wanting to criticise suicide bombers who blow up worshippers at mosques.

What he did criticise though was the call for all "islamics" [sic] to be deported from Australia.

What do you think about the actual statement that Brian was talking about? Was it something that you would join Brian in condemning? Or do you prefer spinelessly apologising for it by building strawmen to attack Brian?

I think we should refuse citizenship to people who are ideologically opposed to our core values. This would involve the deportation of non-citizens who are already here. Some might even be Muslims. I would draw the line at people who are citizens. Deportation loses it's meaning in that context.

You seem to have missed the point of the poem Brian quoted about "not speaking out".

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