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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40763 Gender:	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #30 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:17am fact - all the suicide bombers in this thread are muslims.
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Reply #31 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 1:00pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 10:17am:

fact - all the suicide bombers in this thread are muslims.

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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #32 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 1:06pm The tamil tigers where the world professors when it came to suicide bombings, even before the muslims copied it.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18574 Gender:	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #33 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 12:12pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 9:59pm: Walid and Gandalf- Do you think these suicidal homicidal devout muslims will be rewarded by allah with houris and rivers of wine in paradise or will they burn in the hellfire for all eternity? Why are gandalf and Walid ignoring this question?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #34 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 3:47pm because they don't like the accusatory tone of the question?
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40763 Gender:	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #35 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 1:07pm Quote: A second Australian man has reportedly become a suicide bomber, according to convicted terrorist Khaled Sharrouf http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/07/26/second-australian-reportedly-becom... and another one. I am accusing islam of producing these terrorists
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Reply #36 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 1:09pm

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The claim, posted on Twitter by Sharrouf and first reported by The Australian, follows news that an 18-year-old Melbourne man Adam Dahman was behind an attack which killed five people in Baghdad this month.

The tweet, posted yesterday on a timeline dotted with grisly images of executed Syrian soldiers, stated that “Mashallah two Australians do martyrdom operations in a week killings 100dreds may Allah accept them in the highest jan”.

No further details on the Australian in questions have been released.

Earlier this week, the federal government confirmed that a suicide bomber, described as a “knight” and martyr named as Abu Bakral Australi by terror group ISIL, was from Melbourne.

The government said the man was 17 when he left Australia for the region last year.

Attorney-General George Brandis described the development as “disturbing”.

“The participation by Australians in the conflict in Iraq and Syria poses a significant domestic security threat to Australia when those involved return home and seek to pursue violence here,” Senator Brandis said.

yep, looks like a muslim to me

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18574 Gender:	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #37 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 1:29pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 3:47pm: because they don't like the accusatory tone of the question? So you are avoiding the question because allah will reward these suicidal-homicidal muslims? How can Islamic terror be stopped when Allah rewards muslims for being suicidal-homicidal?
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Re: The first Australian suicide bomber
Reply #38 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 3:11pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 28^th, 2014 at 1:29pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 3:47pm:

because they don't like the accusatory tone of the question?

So you are avoiding the question because allah will reward these suicidal-homicidal muslims?

How can Islamic terror be stopped when Allah rewards muslims for being suicidal-homicidal?

Does it? How can a mythical being reward anything?

Suicide attacks are a recurrent feature of many conflicts. Whereas warfare heroism and martyrdom are allowed in certain circumstances in times of war, a suicide bomber might be committing at least five crimes according to Islamic law, namely killing civilians, mutilating their bodies, violating the trust of enemy soldiers and civilians, committing suicide and destroying civilian objects or properties. The author examines such attacks from an Islamic jus in bello perspective.

Perhaps it's a matter of interpretation? The Islamist loonies believe they will be rewarded, yet reputable Islamic Scholars seem to be saying otherwise. Why should you and the rest of us accept the interpretation of the Islamist loonies over that of the reputable scholars? You peddle only one side of the debate because it suits your purpose to portray the Islamist viewpoint as being that of mainstream Islam when in reality it isn't! Grin

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49233 At my desk.	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #39 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 6:44pm What exactly are the Islamic rule on mutilating bodies? How does that work with stoning people to death, beheading etc? Does Islam forbid the use of explosives?
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Re: The first Australian suicide bomber
Reply #40 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 7:37pm

from the same source

Some extracts from the first page

The leading figure among the Lebanese Shiite community, Sayyid
Muhammad Hussayn Fadlallah, gave them his endorsement. He stated, "Sometimes you may find some situations where you have to take risks. When reality requires a shock, delivered with violence, so you can call upon all those things buried within, and expand all the horizons around you – as, for example, in the self-martyrdom operations, which some called suicide operations".

We view this as religiously lawful warfare against the world’s imperialist and domineering powers.

For Fadlallah there is no difference between setting out for battle knowing you will die after killing ten of the enemy, and setting out to the field to kill ten and knowing you will die while killing them.

Without suicide bombers/martyrdom operations, ‘‘we wouldn’t have been able to win’’,

I've yet to see one muslim or their apologist prove beyond doubt that fundamentalist suicide bombers are not devoutly following the qur'an, allah, Muhammad and islam

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #41 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 8:09pm wally1 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 1:06pm: The tamil tigers where the world professors when it came to suicide bombings, even before the muslims copied it. And the Muslims proved themselves excellent pupils and are doing it long after the prof has stopped. And they are doing it to each other. What genius!!
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Shakey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 905 Gender:	Re: The first Australian suicide bomber Reply #42 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 8:19pm The positive thing is that at least this suicide bomber won't be slipping back through some Australian airport somewhere. He put his money where his mouth is and did a one way trip. The same can't be said for that coward jihadist who just arrived back from the Philippines.
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Re: The first Australian suicide bomber
Reply #43 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 8:33pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18^th, 2014 at 9:54pm:

... deport any Islamic from Aussie

Our government has allowed scores of these 'Australian' Muslims back into the country from Syria and Iraq.

ASIO is 'keeping an eye on them'.

It's just amazing, isn't it? The Italians, Japs and Germans were interned here in camps during WWII to make sure they weren't up to mischief, but here we have Muslims who we know have been assisting terrorists in the Middle East ~ now swanning around our suburbs as 'blooded' jihadists who hate everything we stand for.

Abbott has made a lot of changes since his short time in office, but I'm still waiting for him to turn his attention to what every other politician has ignored as "the elephant in the room" ~ and "political dynamite" ... ie. our growing Muslim population with its percentage of anti-Western psychos.

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Re: The first Australian suicide bomber
Reply #44 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 9:23pm

moses wrote on Jul 28^th, 2014 at 7:37pm:

from the same source

Some extracts from the first page

The leading figure among the Lebanese Shiite community, Sayyid
Muhammad Hussayn Fadlallah, gave them his endorsement. He stated, "Sometimes you may find some situations where you have to take risks. When reality requires a shock, delivered with violence, so you can call upon all those things buried within, and expand all the horizons around you – as, for example, in the self-martyrdom operations, which some called suicide operations".

We view this as religiously lawful warfare against the world’s imperialist and domineering powers.

For Fadlallah there is no difference between setting out for battle knowing you will die after killing ten of the enemy, and setting out to the field to kill ten and knowing you will die while killing them.

Without suicide bombers/martyrdom operations, ‘‘we wouldn’t have been able to win’’,

I've yet to see one muslim or their apologist prove beyond doubt that fundamentalist suicide bombers are not devoutly following the qur'an, allah, Muhammad and islam

I would like to thank Hot Breath for bringing yet another Muslim pro-suicide bombing article to our attention. Got any more HB?

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