Australian Politics Forum - prediction of muslims attitude

Sprintcyclist

Gold Member

Offline

OzPolitic

Posts: 40763
Gender: male

prediction of muslims attitude
Jul 19^th, 2014 at 2:57pm

Quote:

The angel of the Lord also said to her:

“You are now pregnant and you will give birth to a son.
You shall name him Ishmael, for the Lord has heard of your misery.

He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

Genesis 16:11,12

muslims claim they descend from Ishmael.

I don't suppose people who are being brainwashed are told of this quote ?

Back to top

Modern Classic Right Wing

IP Logged

Setanta

Gold Member

Offline

\/ Peace man!

Posts: 16616
Northern NSW
Gender: male

Re: prediction of muslims attitude
Reply #1 - Jul 19^th, 2014 at 6:28pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 2:57pm:

Quote:

The angel of the Lord also said to her:

“You are now pregnant and you will give birth to a son.
You shall name him Ishmael, for the Lord has heard of your misery.

He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

Genesis 16:11,12

muslims claim they descend from Ishmael.

I don't suppose people who are being brainwashed are told of this quote ?

Muslims?

Back to top

IP Logged

polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: prediction of muslims attitude Reply #2 - Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 3:27pm Actually muslims claim they descend from Adam and Eve.
Back to top	A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said: Quote: Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms. IP Logged

Yadda

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 21831
A cat with a view

Re: prediction of muslims attitude
Reply #3 - Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 12:27am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 3:27pm:

Actually muslims claim they descend from Adam and Eve.

Yes, moslems.

And me too.

But the moslem has determined that i must be enslaved or murdered - by the moslem.

This is lawful and required - according to ISLAMIC scripture.

9.29

Somewhere, moslems have 'left the path'.

'It was written.'

Genesis 16:11
And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

+++

The phonetic word alah, has the meaning, 'to curse'.

Isra-el

Isra-EL = = a prince with God.

Allah = = A curse, upon mankind.

Daniel:9:11:
Yea, all Israel 3478 have transgressed 5674-1 thy law, 8451 even by departing, 5493-2 that they might not obey 8085-2 thy voice; 6963 therefore the curse 423 is poured 5413-4 upon us, and the oath 7621 that [is] written 3789-7 in the law 8451 of Moses 4872 the servant 5650 of God, 430 because we have sinned 2398-1 against him.

Quote:

Strong's Hebrew
423 'alah aw-law'
from 422; an imprecation:--curse, cursing, execration, oath, swearing.

Dictionary;
execrate = =
1 feel or express great loathing for.
2 archaic curse; swear.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H423&version=KJV

The CURSE.

The CURSE.

The CURSE.

The alah.

Google;
alah bible strongs hebrew 423

Back to top

curse_002.gif (6 KB | 38 )

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

IP Logged

freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49204 At my desk.	Re: prediction of muslims attitude Reply #4 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:02pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 3:27pm: Actually muslims claim they descend from Adam and Eve. And also Ishmael?
Back to top	People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words. IP Logged

Setanta

Gold Member

Offline

\/ Peace man!

Posts: 16616
Northern NSW
Gender: male

Re: prediction of muslims attitude
Reply #5 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:14pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:02pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 3:27pm:

Actually muslims claim they descend from Adam and Eve.

And also Ishmael?

No, hence my first post here. Arabs claim descent from Ishmael, not Muslims... Are all Muslims Arab? All Arabs Muslim? I thought you all got it and that's why you didn't respond. Obviously not. Huh

Back to top

IP Logged

freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49204 At my desk.	Re: prediction of muslims attitude Reply #6 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:17pm Did they make this claim before Muhammed?
Back to top	People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words. IP Logged

Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16616 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: prediction of muslims attitude Reply #7 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:26pm freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:17pm: Did they make this claim before Muhammed? You tell me. Re: Muslim descent from Ishmael. Well? Are you trying to go off track, divert? Are you just as wrong as wrong as Sprint was when he first said it? You will notice he got the hint or would have responded to me.
Back to top	IP Logged

freediver

Gold Member

Offline

www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 49204
At my desk.

Re: prediction of muslims attitude
Reply #8 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:46pm

What am I wrong about? And why is it irrelevant? Obviously Islam is not a race, but it would not surprise me if Muhammed claimed that he and his early co-religionists descended from a Biblical figure. He basically rewrote Judaism and Christianity to support his claims about Islam, including a lot of historical claims.

Back to top

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

IP Logged

Setanta

Gold Member

Offline

\/ Peace man!

Posts: 16616
Northern NSW
Gender: male

Re: prediction of muslims attitude
Reply #9 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 8:04pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:46pm:

What am I wrong about? And why is it irrelevant? Obviously Islam is not a race, but it would not surprise me if Muhammed claimed that he and his early co-religionists descended from a Biblical figure. He basically rewrote Judaism and Christianity to support his claims about Islam, including a lot of historical claims.

Well, if you remember what you responded to, you are trying to make it something else now. You are wrong about Muslims being descended from Ishmael. That was your claim, not mine.

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:02pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 3:27pm:

Actually muslims claim they descend from Adam and Eve.

And also Ishmael?

See?

Now if I was Grendel I would demand and apology, I'm not so just realise where you went wrong and continue on not making the same mistake.

Back to top

IP Logged

freediver

Gold Member

Offline

www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 49204
At my desk.

Re: prediction of muslims attitude
Reply #10 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 8:09pm

Quote:

Well, if you remember what you responded to and how you see what I said, you are trying to make it something else now.

Would you prefer me to start a new thread with a slightly different title? Is this moving too fast for you? Or are you just desperate to avoid clarifying?

Quote:

You are wrong about Muslims being descended from Ishmael. That was your claim, not mine.

What claim did I make that is wrong?

Quote:

See?

I think you are having trouble seeing. Do you know what question marks are for?

Back to top

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

IP Logged

Taipan

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 1091
SouthWest Sydney
Gender: male

Re: prediction of muslims attitude
Reply #11 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 8:39pm

Arabs do come from Ishmael.

God gave Ishmael blessings and sent him east where he obtained Canaanite wives and thus began the arab 'race'.

The problem is that jews claim they're from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and that they're the descendants of the Israelites. They're not!

Todays jews are the descendants of Esau, Jacobs brother.

Esau also went off and married Canaanite women and became the patriarch of the Edomites.

Todays jews are the descendants of the Edomites and it even says in their Judaica Encyclopaedia that "World Jewry is Edom."

The true descendants of the Ancient Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon-Celtic-Germanic and Scandinavian peoples of Europe, many of whom came from the Pass of Israel(Dariell Pass) in the Caucasus Mountains when they escaped their Assyrian captivity in about 720BC. This is outlined in the Apocrypha from 13:40 Esdras 2.

The term Saxon comes from the term "Isaacs Sons."

Back to top

IP Logged

Setanta

Gold Member

Offline

\/ Peace man!

Posts: 16616
Northern NSW
Gender: male

Re: prediction of muslims attitude
Reply #12 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 8:57pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

Quote:

Well, if you remember what you responded to and how you see what I said, you are trying to make it something else now.

Would you prefer me to start a new thread with a slightly different title? Is this moving too fast for you? Or are you just desperate to avoid clarifying?

Quote:

You are wrong about Muslims being descended from Ishmael. That was your claim, not mine.

What claim did I make that is wrong?

Quote:

See?

I think you are having trouble seeing. Do you know what question marks are for?

C'mon diver, you know how you meant the question, as could anyone that reads the thread in context. Have it your way if you like though. Consider your question answered. "And also Ishmael?" No. Roll Eyes

Back to top

IP Logged

aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34874 Gender:	Re: prediction of muslims attitude Reply #13 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 8:58pm i dont mind arabs, good horses, great stamina, not real bright. i think they are decended from godolphin
Back to top	IP Logged

Setanta

Gold Member

Offline

\/ Peace man!

Posts: 16616
Northern NSW
Gender: male

Re: prediction of muslims attitude
Reply #14 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:04pm

Taipan wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 8:39pm:

Arabs do come from Ishmael.

God gave Ishmael blessings and sent him east where he obtained Canaanite wives and thus began the arab 'race'.

The problem is that jews claim they're from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and that they're the descendants of the Israelites. They're not!

Todays jews are the descendants of Esau, Jacobs brother.

Esau also went off and married Canaanite women and became the patriarch of the Edomites.

Todays jews are the descendants of the Edomites and it even says in their Judaica Encyclopaedia that "World Jewry is Edom."

The true descendants of the Ancient Israelites are the Anglo-Saxon-Celtic-Germanic and Scandinavian peoples of Europe, many of whom came from the Pass of Israel(Dariell Pass) in the Caucasus Mountains when they escaped their Assyrian captivity in about 720BC. This is outlined in the Apocrypha from 13:40 Esdras 2.

The term Saxon comes from the term "Isaacs Sons."

OMG! Really? So we real Jews should wipe out the imposter Jews then. How dare they steal our heritage! And our Holy Land! And our media! And our banks! Hang 'em all from Odin's Holy Oak.

Back to top

IP Logged