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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: prediction of muslims attitude Reply #15 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:23pm freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:02pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 3:27pm: Actually muslims claim they descend from Adam and Eve. And also Ishmael? That doesn't even make sense. Muslims believe that Adam was the first muslim - so how can muslims "descend" from Ishmael?
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Reply #16 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:34pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:46pm:

What am I wrong about? And why is it irrelevant? Obviously Islam is not a race.

Now now, FD, no need to defend yourself here. Some of your best friends are Muslims. You have nothing against the bearded tinted invaders. You’re not racist.

You believe in Freeedom, and why not? You’re perfectly within your rights to criticize those inferior to yourself. After all, they bring down the tone of the neighbourhood.

It has nothing to do with race, it’s all about our superior culture. If we don’t stop them over there, they’ll end up here. No one wants them. It’s not personal.

We are a demokracy, after all. If we don’t defend our superior race, who will?

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Reply #17 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:47pm

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C'mon diver, you know how you meant the question

As a question perhaps? I honestly have no awareness of this issue. I'm just trying, apparently in vain, to get a straight answer. Such hostility to getting the basic facts straight always makes me suspicious. For some reason there are usually Muslims involved.

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Consider your question answered. "And also Ishmael?" No.

Yes I think we have already established that Islam is not a race. Is this moving too fast for you?

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That doesn't even make sense. Muslims believe that Adam was the first muslim - so how can muslims "descend" from Ishmael?

Actually, multiple common ancestors is not impossible, or even unlikely. In any case, thanks for answering the first question again. Have you noticed where the discussion has gone since then? I realise setanta has taken it back to the beginning, but you don't have to follow him round in circles.

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Reply #18 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:57pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:47pm:

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C'mon diver, you know how you meant the question

As a question perhaps? I honestly have no awareness of this issue. I'm just trying, apparently in vain, to get a straight answer. Such hostility to getting the basic facts straight always makes me suspicious. For some reason there are usually Muslims involved..

That’s right, FD. Your interest here is in Old Testament prophets.

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Reply #19 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:58pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:47pm:

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C'mon diver, you know how you meant the question

As a question perhaps? I honestly have no awareness of this issue. I'm just trying, apparently in vain, to get a straight answer. Such hostility to getting the basic facts straight always makes me suspicious. For some reason there are usually Muslims involved.

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Consider your question answered. "And also Ishmael?" No.

Yes I think we have already established that Islam is not a race. Is this moving too fast for you?

The damned thread is based on the "children of Ishmael" having a "je ne sais quoi" that predicts their violent donkey like behaviour, their nature, based on the bible no less for a credible source! Roll Eyes

What is your point and contribution? You were not just "asking a question".

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Reply #20 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:59pm

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That’s right, FD. Your interest here is in Old Testament prophets.

'An ass of a man' is not how they usually describe prophets. Except for one, of course.

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The damned thread is based on the "children of Ishmael" having a "je ne sais quoi" that predicts their violent donkey like behaviour, their nature, based on the bible no less for a credible source!

English please.

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You were not just "asking a question".

Sometimes a question is just a question. What is it about this one that irritates you so?

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16616 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: prediction of muslims attitude Reply #21 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:03pm freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:59pm: 'An ass of a man' is not how they usually describe prophets. Except for one, of course. Who claims Ishmael was a prophet? You're an ass of a man but no-one would consider you a prophet.
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49205 At my desk.	Re: prediction of muslims attitude Reply #22 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:04pm This is all moving too quickly for you, isn't it?
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Reply #23 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:11pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:04pm:

This is all moving too quickly for you, isn't it?

I answered your asinine question a second time that was answered in my first reply in this thread, how about you tell me how you come to your conclusion. I have made one claim, and it's correct, Muslims are not descendants of Ishmael. Well I may have claimed you were an ass above but that is demonstrably true. Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49205 At my desk.	Re: prediction of muslims attitude Reply #24 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:14pm We are up to two pages now, so I think it is safe for question number two. Let me know if you have forgotten what we were talking about the first time I asked. freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:17pm: Did they make this claim before Muhammed?
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Reply #25 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:17pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:14pm:

We are up to two pages now, so I think it is safe for question number two. Let me know if you have forgotten what we were talking about the first time I asked.

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:17pm:

Did they make this claim before Muhammed?

I told you, you tell me. Did they? Roll Eyes

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Reply #26 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:20pm

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:14pm:

We are up to two pages now, so I think it is safe for question number two. Let me know if you have forgotten what we were talking about the first time I asked.

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:17pm:

Did they make this claim before Muhammed?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

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Reply #27 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:24pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:14pm:

We are up to two pages now, so I think it is safe for question number two. Let me know if you have forgotten what we were talking about the first time I asked.

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:17pm:

Did they make this claim before Muhammed?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

And sometimes it's a picture, painted with variations between prejudice and righteousness, asked as a question.

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Reply #28 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 11:05pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:14pm:

We are up to two pages now, so I think it is safe for question number two. Let me know if you have forgotten what we were talking about the first time I asked.

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:17pm:

Did they make this claim before Muhammed?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

And sometimes it's a picture, painted with variations between prejudice and righteousness, asked as a question.

FD wouldn’t do that, shurely.

He believes in Freeedom.

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Reply #29 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 11:16pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 11:05pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:24pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:14pm:

We are up to two pages now, so I think it is safe for question number two. Let me know if you have forgotten what we were talking about the first time I asked.

freediver wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 7:17pm:

Did they make this claim before Muhammed?

Sometimes a question is just a question.

And sometimes it's a picture, painted with variations between prejudice and righteousness, asked as a question.

FD wouldn’t do that, shurely.

He believes in Freeedom.

No, no , no. It's meeeedom. He has a speech, you know... thing.

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