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Re: the World's Cheapest Commodity?
Reply #15 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 2:06am

Emma wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 8:22pm:

well it is apparent .....the cheapest commodity on this planet is human beings..our lives are as nothing to the powers of prejudice hatred greed

The cheapest commodity on this earth is the individual human being... in numbers too numerous to mention... we die and die and die,, and ... profits are made, and territory is gained , and people die.. and die.

Apparently we're all treated as the dogs of grass... Huh

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: the World's Cheapest Commodity? Reply #16 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 2:08am Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 8:33pm: yes, laws of supply and demand, effect on the environment, humans are of a negative worth. Ah- the 'there is no such thing as society' philosophy...
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: the World's Cheapest Commodity? Reply #17 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 2:09am Emma wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 8:54pm: indeed... human life requires such that the fewer the better. huh, absolutes will get you exactly nowhere!
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Reply #18 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 2:13am

Emma wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 8:58pm:

or .. we could try to give up Coca Cola and Fast foods and flying overseas for holidays, and try eating home grown food, holidaying at home and being very aware of every resource we use daily... but lets face it...

thats not going to happen... at least not until WE are lining up for our ration of food, water, and bedding, etc...

and once again... being realistic.. that will be TOO LATE people.

There is a paradox to do with resources that says: THE MORE EFFICIENTLY WE LEARN TO USE A RESOURCE THE MORE OF IT WE USE.

This is called Jevons Paradox- but,... who said it only applies to fossil fuels?

- NOW THAT is worth thinking about imho Shocked

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Reply #19 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 2:23am

Dear Emma, couple the Jevons paradox with Bill Gates idea about automation where he said automation will increase the efficiency of an 'efficient process' but will likewise increase the inefficiency of an 'inefficient process' and we are back to the start of the industrial revolution...

- us voting consumers have been fed hollywood ideas and cheap electronica comfort thru preferential trade deals(!..as Judith Sloane herself calls them..!) Shocked

and the idea of productivity and what is and is not efficient has to raise it's head at some point...

Lastly: nothing grows exponentially Wink

i.e. life is sinusodial !!

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: the World's Cheapest Commodity? Reply #20 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 2:25am miketrees wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 9:09pm: I do my bit Trim the fat? Cool!
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Reply #21 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 2:30am

Emma wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 10:28pm:

peace to you brother..

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Well I remember when I was young... ( Matt Taylor)
....... the Earth went round the SUN
and I was happy....

could you perhaps explain to me what you mean... ??

All flesh is grass ... where do righties fit in?...
we are all culpable... regardless of our politics.
Politics is the veneer we throw over our savagery.. it is an attempt to control what is essentially uncontrollable.. for popular consumption.

I would be directly saying: POLITICS IS THE SAVAGERY!

Obviously I am playing straight from the idea that "All human relations is politics!"

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Re: the World's Cheapest Commodity?
Reply #22 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 2:36am

Setanta wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 10:37pm:

Emma wrote on Jul 19^th, 2014 at 10:28pm:

peace to you brother..

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Well I remember when I was young... ( Matt Taylor)
....... the Earth went round the SUN
and I was happy....

could you perhaps explain to me what you mean... ??

All flesh is grass ... where do righties fit in?...
we are all culpable... regardless of our politics.
Politics is the veneer we throw over our savagery.. it is an attempt to control what is essentially uncontrollable.. for popular consumption.

We also use to wonder about the Earth and how it moved around the sun so snappy. Imagination run wild makes a very backward child they told me. Used to watch them down at the White Sands(Scarborough, Perth) when I was younger.

We are undoubtedly still savages, not convinced on the plague. I hope not, plagues tend to run their course then disappear.

'Imagination run wild makes a very backward child they told me.'

- this would speak directly, imho, of the idea that humanity has come so far due to its acceptance of the so called mentally ill as they have the potential to still contribute great and useful ideas.

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Cliff48 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics /> Posts: 2109 Canberra Gender:	Re: the World's Cheapest Commodity? Reply #23 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 1:03pm I have value - I do - I am worth about $7.50 as a raw material to manufacture Soylent Green
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: the World's Cheapest Commodity? Reply #24 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 3:39pm It seems that the psychopaths are winning. I agree with that, thats where we are headed a world full of them.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: the World's Cheapest Commodity? Reply #25 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 4:07pm miketrees wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 3:39pm: It seems that the psychopaths are winning. I agree with that, thats where we are headed a world full of them. They only win if you say they win!
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Re: the World's Cheapest Commodity?
Reply #26 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 6:26pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 2:23am:

Dear Emma, couple the Jevons paradox with Bill Gates idea about automation where he said automation will increase the efficiency of an 'efficient process' but will likewise increase the inefficiency of an 'inefficient process' and we are back to the start of the industrial revolution...

- us voting consumers have been fed hollywood ideas and cheap electronica comfort thru preferential trade deals(!..as Judith Sloane herself calls them..!) Shocked

and the idea of productivity and what is and is not efficient has to raise it's head at some point...

Lastly: nothing grows exponentially Wink

i.e. life is sinusodial !!

Had to look that up in a dictionary..

given your spelling

i guess you refer to a sine curve being a better representation of life than 'exponential'..

what can I say??

, I'm no mathmetician

but
aren't we like a pyramid scheme.. ??

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Re: the World's Cheapest Commodity?
Reply #27 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 6:32pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 4:07pm:

miketrees wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 3:39pm:

It seems that the psychopaths are winning.

I agree with that, thats where we are headed a world full of them.

They only win if you say they win!

This is also a possible..
unless you happen to be Putin... for example.

Now there is an example of a psychopath reaching the absolute pinnacle of his goal in life... and playing that... and it'll take the whole world, more or less, to say NO WIN.

Will it happen..?? The future remains as ever unknowable.

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Reply #28 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 6:37pm

Cliff48 wrote on Jul 20^th, 2014 at 1:03pm:

I have value - I do - I am worth about $7.50 as a raw material to manufacture Soylent Green

Probably more than that Cliff48.. hey have you read the BOOK.!!???

Nah not the Bible... Roll Eyes

the book " Make Room Make Room" by Harry Harrison (hmm however improbable that seems)

The BOOK that lead to the movie with C Heston..

another view of a possible future.

In the end we'll even run out of insects to eat.. if Mother chooses starvation as the way to dispose of us.

Happy happy joy joy

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: the World's Cheapest Commodity? Reply #29 - Jul 20^th, 2014 at 9:34pm I hope you feel better Emma, sounds like reality is getting you down. I think the happy people i know choose not to know, not to think too deeply. Right now I am feeling down about facing the workplace psychopaths tomorrow.
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