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Re: Hamas the aggressor not interested in peace!
Reply #15 - Jul 20th, 2014 at 6:18pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 20th, 2014 at 5:33pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 20th, 2014 at 5:12pm:
HAMAS IS THE AGGRESSOR!!!
Mindless, stupid, uncaring, demented....



A bit like people who believe using a large, bold font makes their lies any more true.



Grendel needs all the help he can get.

Don't take away his large bold font.

Next, you'll be criticising his highly amusing picture of a flexible man looking up his own bottom.

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Reply #16 - Jul 20th, 2014 at 6:47pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 20th, 2014 at 3:01pm:
Hamas is merely symptom of the brutal occupation.

A slightly different perspective:

Ilan Pappe - Israel’s incremental genocide in the Gaza ghetto


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The Zionist strategy of branding its brutal policies as an ad hoc response to this or that Palestinian action is as old as the Zionist presence in Palestine itself. It was used repeatedly as a justification for implementing the Zionist vision of a future Palestine that has in it very few, if any, native Palestinians.


Also, this is more a thinking globally thread - moved.


Hamas is a symptom of Islam. Abu, who had no connection with the area at all, once explained that it is important for them to not allow the war to end because a glorious Islamic victory over the Jews is inevitable and just around the corner. They just have to keep the war simmering until that can happen.

He did not say these things because an Israeli drove a tank through his house. He said these things because he is a Muslim.
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Reply #17 - Jul 20th, 2014 at 6:54pm
 
...and HAMAS in it's Charter states that all this will continue until Judgement Day.
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Reply #18 - Jul 20th, 2014 at 7:36pm
 
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Re: Hamas the aggressor not interested in peace!
Reply #19 - Jul 20th, 2014 at 8:58pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 20th, 2014 at 6:47pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 20th, 2014 at 3:01pm:
Hamas is merely symptom of the brutal occupation.

A slightly different perspective:

Ilan Pappe - Israel’s incremental genocide in the Gaza ghetto


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The Zionist strategy of branding its brutal policies as an ad hoc response to this or that Palestinian action is as old as the Zionist presence in Palestine itself. It was used repeatedly as a justification for implementing the Zionist vision of a future Palestine that has in it very few, if any, native Palestinians.


Also, this is more a thinking globally thread - moved.


Hamas is a symptom of Islam. Abu, who had no connection with the area at all, once explained that it is important for them to not allow the war to end because a glorious Islamic victory over the Jews is inevitable and just around the corner. They just have to keep the war simmering until that can happen.

He did not say these things because an Israeli drove a tank through his house. He said these things because he is a Muslim.


Hamas' power is a symptom of hopelessness. How's that hardon for Putin going?
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Reply #20 - Jul 20th, 2014 at 10:14pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 20th, 2014 at 6:47pm:
Hamas is a symptom of Islam. Abu, who had no connection with the area at all


Yes, FD - thats kinda the point.

Just like some of Israel's most militant supporters have no connection with the area at all. People like you, for example.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #21 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 10:12am
 
The civilians of Gaza, as I said above, will eventually realise that a terrorist government is a blind alley and, if they are allowed a free vote, will kick them out.
Even Arabs can't be so stupid as to continue down the same path indefinitely.
Until that time I hope and believe Israel has the strength and will to defend itself with all the force at its disposal.
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Reply #22 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 10:40am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 20th, 2014 at 10:14pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 20th, 2014 at 6:47pm:
Hamas is a symptom of Islam. Abu, who had no connection with the area at all


Yes, FD - thats kinda the point.

Just like some of Israel's most militant supporters have no connection with the area at all. People like you, for example.



well not sure which country is firing the rockets....at Gaza.. perhaps you know??..

we on here only have opinions we have no power to stop or start any war..

but you can pretend we do if it helps you to be a martyr to the cause...

will these people ever learn to live side by side.??

is anyone at all doing anything to find PEACE IN OUR TIME...do you have the answer gandalf?  because if you do you are wasted on here..

as it is you do not wish to see the othersides point of view anymore than anyone else...

tit for tat doesnt work it never has...

I think you ,will have to get used to it as it seems to me it will go on for a long time to come.and everyone will always have an opinion..
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Reply #23 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 10:43am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 21st, 2014 at 10:12am:
The civilians of Gaza, as I said above, will eventually realise that a terrorist government is a blind alley and, if they are allowed a free vote, will kick them out.
Even Arabs can't be so stupid as to continue down the same path indefinitely.
Until that time I hope and believe Israel has the strength and will to defend itself with all the force at its disposal.



they like fighting they like living in dirty bomb sites..with blood on the walls.. they must do....

they had a 5 hour cease fire and the Hamas broke it after 150 min...3 rockets fired..
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Reply #24 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 10:49am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 21st, 2014 at 10:12am:
The civilians of Gaza, as I said above, will eventually realise that a terrorist government is a blind alley and, if they are allowed a free vote, will kick them out.
Even Arabs can't be so stupid as to continue down the same path indefinitely.
Until that time I hope and believe Israel has the strength and will to defend itself with all the force at its disposal.



HAMAS should be wiped out by the jews.
Not for firing rockets as much as for their absolute lack of intelligence.
Actually , no need to wipe them out. Critters that dumb could be used in medical facilities and we could let the chimps go live in Palestine. The medical experiment  chimps (as creatures of higher intelligence) would be more worthy lifeforms.
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Reply #25 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 12:12pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 21st, 2014 at 10:43am:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 21st, 2014 at 10:12am:
The civilians of Gaza, as I said above, will eventually realise that a terrorist government is a blind alley and, if they are allowed a free vote, will kick them out.
Even Arabs can't be so stupid as to continue down the same path indefinitely.
Until that time I hope and believe Israel has the strength and will to defend itself with all the force at its disposal.



they like fighting they like living in dirty bomb sites..with blood on the walls.. they must do....

they had a 5 hour cease fire and the Hamas broke it after 150 min...3 rockets fired..


and what's hamas self identity ..................... they are muslims.
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Re: Hamas the aggressor not interested in peace!
Reply #26 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 6:19pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 21st, 2014 at 10:40am:
well not sure which country is firing the rockets....at Gaza.. perhaps you know??..

we on here only have opinions we have no power to stop or start any war..

but you can pretend we do if it helps you to be a martyr to the cause...

will these people ever learn to live side by side.??

is anyone at all doing anything to find PEACE IN OUR TIME...do you have the answer gandalf?  because if you do you are wasted on here..

as it is you do not wish to see the othersides point of view anymore than anyone else...

tit for tat doesnt work it never has...

I think you ,will have to get used to it as it seems to me it will go on for a long time to come.and everyone will always have an opinion..


Wow cods, I literally lost count of the number of strawmen jammed into that one post. Are you sure you were responding to the right poster?

I believe your sentiments need to be directed at the two posters who are blindly framing this as purely and simply as evil islam vs good non-islam. People who are a million miles away who have probably never met an Israeli or Palestinian in their life. Its they who are boldly claiming they know the oh-so-simple formula for peace, not me.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Reply #27 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 6:27pm
 
wally1 wrote on Jul 20th, 2014 at 7:36pm:


More nice pictures Wally.
Of democracy in action that is.
Not everyone in Israel has to tow the party line and agree with the government.
That's what democracies do.
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Reply #28 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 6:45pm
 
MOLOCH (MOLECH).

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—Biblical Data:
In the Masoretic text the name is "Molech"; in the Septuagint "Moloch." The earliest mention of Molech is in Lev. xviii. 21, where the Israelite is forbidden to sacrifice any of his children to Molech.
(palestinian or goyem children are ok by khazar imposter jew standards ~ edit: IITL)
Similarly, in Lev. xx. 2-5, it is enacted that a man who sacrifices his seed to Molech shall surely be put to death. Then, curiously, it is provided that he shall be cut off from the congregation. In I Kings xi. 7 it is said that Solomon built a high place for Molech in the mountain "that is before Jerusalem." The same passage calls Molech an Ammonite deity. The Septuagint as quoted in the New Testament (Acts vii. 43) finds a reference to Moloch in Amos v. 26; but this is a doubtful passage. In II Kings xxiii. 10 it is stated that one of the practises to which Josiah put a stop by his reform was that of sacrificing children to Molech, and that the place where this form of worship had been practised was at Topheth, "in the valley of the children of Hinnom." This statement is confirmed by Jer. xxxii. 35. From II Kings xxi. 6 it may be inferred that this worship was introduced during the reign of Manasseh. The impression left by an uncritical reading of these passages is that Molech-worship, with its rite of child-sacrifice, was introduced from Ammon during the seventh century B.C.
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Reply #29 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 7:20pm
 
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Just like some of Israel's most militant supporters have no connection with the area at all. People like you, for example.


I'm militant? Or are you subtly trying to say the Israelis are all pussies?

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Even Arabs can't be so stupid as to continue down the same path indefinitely.


1400 years is a long time.

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Wow cods, I literally lost count of the number of strawmen jammed into that one post.


You only managed one Gandalf. Two if I want to be generous. Even at strawmen you fail.

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Its they who are boldly claiming they know the oh-so-simple formula for peace, not me.


I'm still waiting on your explanation of a "useful intervention" in Syria, beyond describing it as an intervention that is not in Syria.
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