Humans are humans, not little logical computers.

It's our flaws that are a vital part of our humanity

Before being human, we are monkeys.

Observe monkey nature and you will identify the commonality of our (Freudian) id.

We are capable (and often enjoy) being petty, self-interested, scrappy, deceiving, spiteful and vengeful - Like baboons or macaques.

We rise above these primal drives through those multitude of faculties that make us human... The greatest being our unparalleled capacity for reason and, the next (through our insatiable need to know) the ability to construct grand abstract metaphors intended to explain the inexplicable and to externalise their constructs as incontrovertible fact, in other words, we create religion.

And so great is our need to instantly understand the unknown or reveal the mysterious on demand that (in our defence of those grand abstract metaphors that 'explain' the inexplicable) we become petty, self-interested, scrappy, deceiving, spiteful and vengeful - Like baboons or macaques.

Phemanderac wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2014 at 5:03pm:


Bingo, you've hit the nail on the head perfectly.

Humans are dual beings. We all have aspects of good and evil. There is another duality that exists, which is in our minds -- the left side of the brain is all about logic and reason, while the right is where our creative side comes from, for instance fantasies, art, etc. Artists in whatever kind of art: musicians, painters, writers tend to use this side of the brain. I believe this is where faith belongs as well.
Many people have blind faith in their religions regardless of what science can disprove of it. But the same can actually happen when the roles are reversed.
The problem with logic/reason is that often if you can't prove something using scientific methods, it's either a fairy tale or it is chucked on the backburner and ignored.
You can't prove that God exists, but you can't disprove it either.
It's like the question, "was there an ancient advanced civilisation that existed long before humans and even dinosaurs?"
This question was asked to Egyptologists, who, because of their logic-inclined minds, dispute the idea. If you are familiar with the pyramid story is that they were built using accurate mathematics and was perfectly shaped as a result of this, although all of the stones used to build it were different shapes and sizes. On Easter island a similar thing happened, as well as in Peru. It was put down to "coincidence" that all of these separate civilizations had similar knowledge that was far too advanced for its time.
It is also said that the great pyramid of Giza was built in just 20 years with a chisel and rock, when even in this age of technology they would have trouble completing it in 20 years.
For more information on this watch the documentary "Revelation of the pyramids".

Another example is that years before scientific knowledge could prove that the earth was not flat but a sphere, the idea was laughed at. People who echoed that were called nutters.
I believe that in order for science, a product based mainly on logic and reason, to advance is with faith. I'm not saying that you need to believe in God to advance science, but you need to believe in the possibility of something that wouldn't be considered normal or accurate.
The same goes for faith, because the danger of blind faith is that you can misinterpret a spiritual doctrine or belief in any way you want, which has dangerous consequences. An example of this is extremism, think ISIS -- they believe they are instruments of Allah who are doing his bidding by destroying all of those who don't believe.
This is where you need to apply reason.
So basically, we have dual opposites who cannot exist without the other. A balance of sorts. 

God cannot heal you unless you, yourself, want to be healed.

Freedumb wrote on Sep 1^st, 2014 at 9:19pm:

If you are damaged, of course you would want to be healed. BTW, who says that GOD can't heal anyone he chooses? you?

GOD, CAN DO ANYTHING.

Gryphon49 wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 11:12pm:


God helps those who help themselves

God DOES help those that help themselves, it is a 50/50 partnership (not always that percentage though).

People complain when something terrible happens to a family member, a friend or something on a global scale and BLAME GOD but, when everything is running hunky dorey, no one wants GOD to interfere? GOD isn't there for OUR convenience.