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Re: When will Hamas in Gaza stop launching rockets...
Reply #30 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 9:32am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 11:03am:

As I said before, Hamas is a symptom of the Israeli oppression. It is inevitable that in any occupation scenario unsavoury elements will emerge, and Palestine is no exception. And indeed, the role played by the Israelis in fostering the growth of Hamas is well documented. Thus another common feature of occupation forces: promote one faction in order to sow discord within the occupied's society - divide and conquer.

gandalf,

As i have said before, that the Israeli 'oppression' of Gazans, is a symptom of Hamas's - open - aggression and violence against Israelis.

An aggression and violence against Israelis - BECAUSE - Israelis are not moslems.

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Google;
Hamas charter, calls for the genocide of all Jews

The Israel/Palestinian conflict.....

It is not about land [for a Palestinian 'homeland']....

The Israel/Palestinian conflict - is about ISLAM and about 'pre-set' ISLAMIC religious doctrines. Koran 9.29

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THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS
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On the Destruction of Israel:

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'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will

obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)

The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:

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'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]

consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one

can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'

(Article 11)

'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the

Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem

wherever he may be.' (Article 13)....

http://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

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The 'Palestinians' are not fighting for a 'homeland'.

The 'Palestinians' are fighting to destroy Israel.

The 'Palestinians' are fighting against the Jewish people, because the Jewish people [LIVING in the ancient homeland of the Jewish people - Israel], are not moslems.

Period.

The Israel/Palestinian conflict, is another moslem conflict with 'local' infidels.

As per the directives of Allah;

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter?...."
Koran 9.38,39

And we can see this same aggression and violent intent being expressed [by moslems] - in Australia - against Australians.

An aggression and violent intent being expressed [by moslems] - in Australia - against Australians - BECAUSE - Australians are not moslems.

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Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
Moslems, religious bigots, 'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' and tolerant ISLAM and moslems really are - of those who don't hold with the views of ISIS of ISLAM and moslems.

Moslems on a Sydney street, openly demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion',
.....the 'religious' right to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.

The image above - of a moslem street protest in Sydney - should be an 'eye-opener' for many Australians.

Because that image demonstrates that there are MANY, MANY, 'ISIS' cadres living within Australia.

These are violent religious bigots - MOSLEMS - living within Australia.

QUESTION;
Tell me, who among the 'pillars' of our 'mainstream' Australia society and in the media, is condemning the violent religious philosophy - ISLAM - which inspires every 'variant' of 'ISIS' and every moslem within Australia to [atm, suppressed] religious violence against those who are not moslem ?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: When will Hamas in Gaza stop launching rockets... Reply #31 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:42am Yadda it must be lovely in your simple fairy tale world. Soren - the gaza wall was completed in 1996. Not sure how you can describe walling people in and controlling the entry points as anything other than a blockade.
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Re: When will Hamas in Gaza stop launching rockets...
Reply #32 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 11:04am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:42am:

Yadda it must be lovely in your simple fairy tale world.

Yes, fairy tale worlds....

"Ye [moslems] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
Koran 3.110

Moslems are righteous, peaceful, tolerant, virtuous people.

And it is - ISLAM - which inspires moslems to be virtuous people.

"[ISLAM] rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."

Google.

ISLAMIC law texts declare, moslems can 'lawfully' kill 'unbelievers'/apostates,

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

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"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

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The one holding the AK47 is - Abdullah - from Sydney, on his holy-days.

Moslems, doing 'good works'.

Koran 9.123

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: When will Hamas in Gaza stop launching rockets... Reply #33 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 12:16am it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 2:22am: Hamas is a Creation of Mossad Of course, no Arab Muslims are ever responsible for anything. They are helpless puppets in Israel's hands.
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Re: When will Hamas in Gaza stop launching rockets...
Reply #34 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 8:58pm

Abbott Lies wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2014 at 12:19pm:

Israeli Apartheid Land Stealing Concentration Camps

http://www.deliberation.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/palestinian_land_loss_ma...

Still peddling your dodgy pictures eh.
In 1946, the British Mandate of Palestine was controlled by the British.
And they took it by force in 1917 off the Ottoman Empire who held it for hundreds of years.
There never has been a nation called Palestine, only a region governed by many other nations.

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Re: When will Hamas in Gaza stop launching rockets...
Reply #35 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:07pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:42am:

Yadda it must be lovely in your simple fairy tale world.

Soren - the gaza wall was completed in 1996. Not sure how you can describe walling people in and controlling the entry points as anything other than a blockade.

Mmmm.
There are two sides to every wall you know.
Some keep people inside, and some keep people outside.
And you know Egypt firmly controls the entry point in their country don't you.
The last thing Egypt wants is Hamas terrorist scum going into Egypt to kill Egyptians.
And anyway, how dare the Jews stop terrorists from blowing up seaside cafes and yellow school buses.
What's the world coming to when terrorist organisations are stopped from killing Jews and going about there duty to Allah.

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Re: When will Hamas in Gaza stop launching rockets...
Reply #36 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:51pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:07pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:42am:

Yadda it must be lovely in your simple fairy tale world.

Soren - the gaza wall was completed in 1996. Not sure how you can describe walling people in and controlling the entry points as anything other than a blockade.

Mmmm.
There are two sides to every wall you know.
Some keep people inside, and some keep people outside.
And you know Egypt firmly controls the entry point in their country don't you.
The last thing Egypt wants is Hamas terrorist scum going into Egypt to kill Egyptians.
And anyway, how dare the Jews stop terrorists from blowing up seaside cafes and yellow school buses.

What's the world coming to when terrorist organisations are stopped from killing Jews and going about there duty to Allah.

The Israelis are resourceful and capable people.

THE ISRAELIS DECIDED TO BUILD THIS;

TO STOP/PREVENT THIS;

AND guess what, it worked!

And now, the Israelis are pounding Gaza into dust.

The purpose ?

To stop/prevent Gazans from continuing to launch rockets - carrying high explosives - from Gaza, onto Israeli cities and towns.

AND guess what, it is going to work!

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Re: When will Hamas in Gaza stop launching rockets...
Reply #38 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:25pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:15pm:

You must be right, Y.

Only the UN Security Council, the White House, the Australian government, and every single country in the UN disagree with you.

Moslems claim that - they - are over 1 billion souls.

And moslems claim that - they - are correct are inerrant, too.

I say that moslems are mistaken.

Mortally so.

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Ezekiel 35:5
Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end:
6 Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will prepare thee unto blood, and blood shall pursue thee: sith thou hast not hated blood, even blood shall pursue thee.

Ezekiel 35:10
Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there:
11 Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will even do according to thine anger, and according to thine envy which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them; and I will make myself known among them, when I have judged thee.
12 And thou shalt know that I am the LORD, and that I have heard all thy blasphemies which thou hast spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, They are laid desolate, they are given us to consume.
13 Thus with your mouth ye have boasted against me, and have multiplied your words against me: I have heard them.
14 Thus saith the Lord GOD; When the whole earth rejoiceth, I will make thee desolate.
15 As thou didst rejoice at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, O mount Seir, and all Idumea, even all of it: and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Psalms 83:4
They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

In the context of Psalms 83, and Ezekiel 35;

Idumea = = Edom = = Jordan = = 'Palestinians'

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Re: When will Hamas in Gaza stop launching rockets...
Reply #39 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:54pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 10:15pm:

You must be right, Y.

Only the UN Security Council, the White House, the Australian government, and every single country in the UN disagree with you.

K,

Yes, the UN Security Council, the White House, the Australian government, and every single country in the UN chooses to have sympathy for murderous group of people who are trying to destroy Israel.

Yes, the UN Security Council, the White House, the Australian government, and every single country in the UN chooses to have sympathy for a murderous group of people who are choosing, to launch rockets against Israeli cities and towns, who are trying to kill Israelis - but those persons [moslems] think that there should be no consequences minimal consequences upon them.

We live in strange times.

A time when Black is White, and White is Black.

A time when up is Down, and Down is Up.

A time when evil is good, and good is evil.

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THE PEOPLE WHO LAUNCH ROCKETS AGAINST ISRAELI CITIES AND TOWNS......

Quote:

"We love death.
The US loves life.
That is the difference between us two."

- Osama bin Laden, November 2001

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"The Jews love life, .....they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

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".....On the one hand, Israeli culture values life in all its aspects, including the sanctity of the life of others. Their soldiers take risks to spare civilians on the other side, unprecedented in the history of warfare. Aware of Israeli inhibitions, Jihadi groups use their own people as human shields in fighting the Israelis.
Over the last few years, these Jihadi groups have developed a full-blown death cult in which they raise their children to want to die killing others."

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"We have discovered how to hit the Jews where they are the most vulnerable. The Jews love life, so that is what we shall take away from them. We are going to win, because they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

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"Our blood is cheap compared with the cause which has brought us together and which at moments separated us, but shortly we will meet again in heaven…"

Yasser Arafat (Maariv, Oct. 4, 1996)

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"Why do other people love life, while we love death and violence, slaughter and suicide, and [even] call it heroism and martyrdom?"

Tunisian intellectual Al-Afif Al-Akhdar

Those "...we love death" quotes, above, were sourced here...
http://www.theaugeanstables.com/2006/08/02/501/

Google;
jihad - "we love death"

Google;
muslims "we love death"

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Re: When will Hamas in Gaza stop launching rockets...
Reply #40 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 11:05pm

No, Y, the UN Security Council, the White House, the Australian government and every member of the UN criticize Israel for building settlements on occupied land.

It has nothing to do with sympathizing with murderers.

Israel’s refusal to act in accord with international law does not make its civilians safe. It makes them targets for abuse, rocks, and yes, missiles.

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Reply #41 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 11:47pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 11:05pm:

No, Y, the UN Security Council, the White House, the Australian government and every member of the UN criticize Israel for building settlements on occupied land.

MISREPRESENTATION OF FACTS

Jerusalem is occupied land too, K.

Honest!!!!!

Eh?

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It has nothing to do with sympathizing with murderers.

MISREPRESENTATION OF FACTS

ISLAM, is a death cult - which sanctions murder of those who are not moslems.

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Israel’s refusal to act in accord with international law does not make its civilians safe. It makes them targets for abuse, rocks, and yes, missiles.

MISREPRESENTATION OF FACTS

Israel acting in accordance with what the UN wants, wanted, would have resulted in the massacre of all Israelis.

Karnal = = not a credible human being.

Karnal = = a biased, moral monster.

Monster ?

Anyone who is an apologist for ISLAM [which is a death cult, which sanctions murder], imo, is a moral monster.

That includes you too, Annie.

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Reply #43 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 11:57pm

At the fallen muslim terrorist’s funeral, however, there was an “unexpected surprise,” leaving many of the late bomber’s fanatics in the same position as their dear hero.
Apparently, the person who prepared the body to be carried through the streets forgot one very important detail – removing the suicide vest. Oops!
As the pallbearers carry the deceased’s body down the street for praise, the vest detonates, blowing many of the followers to pieces. Mangled corpses and body parts cover the ground, and witnesses can be heard screaming “Allahu akbar” as the smoke clears

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Re: When will Hamas in Gaza stop launching rockets...
Reply #44 - Jul 27^th, 2014 at 12:08am

Perses wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 11:50pm:

This is Islam, I'm can't post URL's yet so look for this on youtube. Funeral for Muslim Suicide Bomber Goes Up in Smoke…Literally (Warning Graphic)

Welcome Perses.

Great post!

The video......

Allah once again blesses the righteous moslems, sends many of them to his paradise.

The moslems are greatful - in the video, you can hear many of the moslems praise Allah, again and again and again.

Luckily, the bomb didn't take out the cameraman!

Great camera work!!!

Funeral for Muslim Suicide Bomber Goes Up in Smoke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9xnBV62xvM

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