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Reply #15 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 9:00pm
 
Presumably FD has a more politically correct term for the forced eviction of at least 200-300 thousand people on the basis of ethnicity.
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Reply #16 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 9:25pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 11:14pm:
The Gazan people are fighting oppression and occupation. There would be no wars if the Israelis did not occupy and treat Gaza as a concentration camp and shoot and bomb nearly every day of Gaza's existence.

Israelis love killing Palestinians and have done so since the creation of Israel by bloodbath.


Do you actually believe that dribble?
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Reply #17 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 11:56pm
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 9:25pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 11:14pm:
The Gazan people are fighting oppression and occupation. There would be no wars if the Israelis did not occupy and treat Gaza as a concentration camp and shoot and bomb nearly every day of Gaza's existence.

Israelis love killing Palestinians and have done so since the creation of Israel by bloodbath.


Do you actually believe that dribble?



QUESTION;

"What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?"




chicken_lips,

Of course LTYC believes it.



And ISLAM is an unstoppable force.     Wink

And by force of will, moslems will destroy Israel.

It says so, in the Hamas charter.

So how can you imagine that the rampant ISLAM of our age could ever be contained, in its push to eliminate the Zionist state ?



Quote:

THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS
....

On the Destruction of Israel:

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'Israel will exist and  will  continue  to  exist  until  Islam  will

obliterate it,
just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)



The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:

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'The  land  of  Palestine  is  an  Islamic  Waqf  [Holy   Possession]

consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No  one

can renounce it or any part, or  abandon  it  or  any  part  of  it.'

(Article 11)



'Palestine is  an  Islamic  land...  Since  this  is  the  case,  the

Liberation of Palestine  is  an  individual  duty  for  every  Moslem

wherever he may be.' (Article 13)....

http://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm



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We are living in very strange [bizarre] and wicked times.

God is clever.

Men are dumb [....are 'marching to the sound of another drum' ? ].

Nothing can stop God's plan.

Rather, it is man's own nature, which is driving that plan forward.        Smiley

Many of us are blinded by - the spirit of this world - and by our own strident vanity and wickedness.

And the harvest is almost upon us.



Matthew 24:37
But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38  For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,


Genesis 6:5
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
.....
11  The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

Give authority to good and evil men, and then watch what they will do with that power.

Is God wicked, to test his creation, to test men ?

Be careful.




Matthew 13:47
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48  Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
49  So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50  And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


Revelation 14:15
And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16  And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
17  And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
18  And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
19  And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.


Joel 3:13
Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.

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Re: The ethnic cleansing of Palestine
Reply #18 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 12:03am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 9:00pm:
Presumably FD has a more politically correct term for the forced eviction of at least 200-300 thousand people on the basis of ethnicity.


Yes, I believe he calls it Freeedom.
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Reply #19 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 6:49am
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 12:03am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 9:00pm:
Presumably FD has a more politically correct term for the forced eviction of at least 200-300 thousand people on the basis of ethnicity.


Yes, I believe he calls it Freeedom.



just heard ISIS have given  a million Christians 2 days to leave the caliphate or
1 convert
2 pay protection money
3 beheaded

so that's an ethnic cleanse 3 x as big.
worthy of 3 x as much media coverage?
thoughts?
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Reply #20 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:11am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 9:00pm:
Presumably FD has a more politically correct term for the forced eviction of at least 200-300 thousand people on the basis of ethnicity.


It was not on the basis of ethnicity Gandalf. Roughly a quarter of Israel's current population is of the ethnicity you suggest was forcibly evicted.

It was on the basis of who was hostile to the new state. Those that were not were allowed to stay, and today enjoy more rights than Arabs in most middle eastern countries. Those who decided to fight were either shot or evicted.
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Reply #21 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 5:43pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:11am:
Roughly a quarter of Israel's current population is of the ethnicity you suggest was forcibly evicted.


Why is it so hard for you to grasp the fact that ethnic cleansing does not necessarily involve the wholesale cleansing of the *ENTIRE* country? The urban centres of Lydda and Ramle - as well as others were *ENTIRELY* cleansed of their arab populations, therefore in those places Israel practiced ethnic cleansing. I don't really care if you have a more politically correct term for it, its ethnic cleansing pure and simple.


freediver wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:11am:
It was on the basis of who was hostile to the new state. Those that were not were allowed to stay, and today enjoy more rights than Arabs in most middle eastern countries. Those who decided to fight were either shot or evicted.


So you think that ethnic cleansing on the basis of a real or perceived threat from that ethnicity is somehow not ethnic cleansing? Wrong.

Also, the residents of Lydda and Ramle were not divided into those who were hostile, and those who were not - they were indiscriminately evicted - every man, woman and child - some 200-320 thousand of them. Obviously the Israeli leadership responsible justified it in terms of security, but doing so does not in any way shape or form change the fact that it was ethnic cleansing.
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Reply #22 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 5:46pm
 
I know one thing, the muslims would love to ethnically cleanse Palestine and Israel of the Jews. If they could've they would have done it by now.
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Reply #23 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 5:48pm
 
Shakey wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 5:46pm:
I know one thing, the muslims would love to ethnically cleanse Palestine and Israel of the Jews. If they could've they would have done it by now.


Yes Shakey, I believe we've heard that meme before.

Like every two minutes every single day, ad-nauseum.
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Reply #24 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 5:52pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 5:48pm:
Shakey wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 5:46pm:
I know one thing, the muslims would love to ethnically cleanse Palestine and Israel of the Jews. If they could've they would have done it by now.


Yes Shakey, I believe we've heard that meme before.

Like every two minutes every single day, ad-nauseum.
Didn't a whole bunch of neighbouring countries get together a bunch of times in a bid to push the jews into the sea. Hardly a one sided affair, is it.
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Reply #25 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 6:01pm
 
Shakey wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 5:52pm:
Didn't a whole bunch of neighbouring countries get together a bunch of times in a bid to push the jews into the sea. Hardly a one sided affair, is it.


Agreed - Israel dominated them in every single aspect, every single time.

Plus they remain the sole nuclear armed power in the region.

But sure, we can keep pretending that Syrians attempting to take back the fertile Golan Heights, or the Egyptians reclaiming the Sinai - that in both cases Israel took in a blatantly aggressive land grab - is all about the barbarian arabs trying to ethnically cleanse the poor jooos.
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Reply #26 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 6:05pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 6:01pm:
Shakey wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 5:52pm:
Didn't a whole bunch of neighbouring countries get together a bunch of times in a bid to push the jews into the sea. Hardly a one sided affair, is it.


Agreed - Israel dominated them in every single aspect, every single time.

Plus they remain the sole nuclear armed power in the region.

But sure, we can keep pretending that Syrians attempting to take back the fertile Golan Heights, or the Egyptians reclaiming the Sinai - that in both cases Israel took in a blatantly aggressive land grab - is all about the barbarian arabs trying to ethnically cleanse the poor jooos.
If the arabs grabbed parts of Israel would they give it back? I'm not supporting the jews, but I'm sure the islamists aren't innocent either.
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Reply #27 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 6:07pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 8:34pm:
Good point. Another cunning strategy I like to use is allowing them to live peacefully among us.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Arab_population_israel_...

I am doing a bit of ethnic cleansing right now, but so far no-one has noticed what I am up to. Better get LTYC onto it...


Not only allowing them to live amongst the Jews, but allow them to hold political positions in Parliament, or serve in the IDF and hold General rank in the Israeli army.
A very cunning strategy indeed.
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Reply #28 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 6:10pm
 
Yes, CLFM, please do tell me all about the 4 million Palestinians under direct Israeli control who have all these wonderful human rights.
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Reply #29 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 6:26pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 6:01pm:
Shakey wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 5:52pm:
Didn't a whole bunch of neighbouring countries get together a bunch of times in a bid to push the jews into the sea. Hardly a one sided affair, is it.


Agreed - Israel dominated them in every single aspect, every single time.

Plus they remain the sole nuclear armed power in the region.

But sure, we can keep pretending that Syrians attempting to take back the fertile Golan Heights, or the Egyptians reclaiming the Sinai - that in both cases Israel took in a blatantly aggressive land grab - is all about the barbarian arabs trying to ethnically cleanse the poor jooos.


Perhaps the Egyptians and Syrians should have learned beforehand how to successfully attack their neighbour to drive them into the sea and steal their land.
That aggressive land grab you casually threw in by the Israeli's only took place after the Israeli's were attacked once again by numerically superior Arab armies, and beat them again into the ground.
The Syrians and Egyptians aren't complaining, and are probably quite grateful that wasn't the only land they lost after their perfidious attack.
And the Israeli's are under no illusion unlike yourself about what is in store for them if they lose any war.
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