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Reply #30 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 7:49pm

Shakey wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 5:56pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 5:53pm:

8 million dollar a year to track them, bit of a joke really.

There is no way there going to put 24 hour surveillance on them for years on end.
They will monitor for a month then move on when they blow there overtime budget.

I doubt ASIO will just walk away from people who are a great chance of committing a terrorist attack.

ASIO like most organisations have budgetary limits which force them to prioritise their time. Then of course, the subjects of their surveillance may just be innocent afterall but of course, the bias against Muslims inherent in the thinking of many in the security apparatus won't let them realise that. Roll Eyes

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Reply #32 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 8:01pm

Shakey wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 5:56pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 5:53pm:

8 million dollar a year to track them, bit of a joke really.

There is no way there going to put 24 hour surveillance on them for years on end.
They will monitor for a month then move on when they blow there overtime budget.

I doubt ASIO will just walk away from people who are a great chance of committing a terrorist attack.

Mamdouh habib is not monitored, david hicks not monitored, kaled sharrouf is not monitored, non of the terror suspect which are out are monitored.

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Reply #33 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 8:33pm

freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 7:52pm:

So they should devote equal time to Christian and Atheist terrorists? How about spineless apologist terrorists?

They should devote time to ALL Terrorists who represent a credible threat, FD.

It shouldn't matter as what ideology or religion which motivates them. They should not develop neither a blind eye or myopia. Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49233 At my desk.	Re: $1.2 Billion Reply #34 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:05pm Quote: They should devote time to ALL Terrorists who represent a credible threat, FD. So you support them devoting a significant effort to tracking Muslims, way beyond what the size of our Muslim population alone would suggest?
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Reply #35 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:23pm

freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

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They should devote time to ALL Terrorists who represent a credible threat, FD.

So you support them devoting a significant effort to tracking Muslims, way beyond what the size of our Muslim population alone would suggest?

Is it mere suspicion, bigotry or is there credible evidence which points to them being a credible threat, FD? Or do you just want them to purely concentrate on the Muslim community because of your own bigotry? Roll Eyes

Considering that most Terrorist attacks which have occurred on Australian soil have been by non-Muslims I'd suggest it was important that the Intelligence services did not develop myopia.

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Reply #36 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:23pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

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They should devote time to ALL Terrorists who represent a credible threat, FD.

So you support them devoting a significant effort to tracking Muslims, way beyond what the size of our Muslim population alone would suggest?

Is it mere suspicion, bigotry or is there credible evidence which points to them being a credible threat, FD? Or do you just want them to purely concentrate on the Muslim community because of your own bigotry? Roll Eyes

Considering that most Terrorist attacks which have occurred on Australian soil have been by non-Muslims I'd suggest it was important that the Intelligence services did not develop myopia.

Just today in qld a lady got injured by a pipe bomb.

Who needs to make a pipe bomb these days.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96220 Gender:	Re: $1.2 Billion Reply #37 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:14pm freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 7:52pm: So they should devote equal time to Christian and Atheist terrorists? How about spineless apologist terrorists? Absolutely not, FD. They should spend their time on the Muslims - okay, the spineless apologists as well. That's it. Maybe ASIO will spy on the 2007 FD, eh?
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Reply #38 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:16pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:23pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

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They should devote time to ALL Terrorists who represent a credible threat, FD.

So you support them devoting a significant effort to tracking Muslims, way beyond what the size of our Muslim population alone would suggest?

Is it mere suspicion, bigotry or is there credible evidence which points to them being a credible threat, FD? Or do you just want them to purely concentrate on the Muslim community because of your own bigotry? Roll Eyes

Considering that most Terrorist attacks which have occurred on Australian soil have been by non-Muslims I'd suggest it was important that the Intelligence services did not develop myopia.

Just today in qld a lady got injured by a pipe bomb.

Muslim or spineless apologist?

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Shakey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 905 Gender:	Re: $1.2 Billion Reply #39 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:21pm Apparently the government has started cancelling terrorists visas. Great stuff. That will save some money.
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Reply #40 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 2:21pm

Page 24 of the weekend Australian (9-10 August) carries a picture of a young muslim girl, aged about five.

She holds aloft a placard with "Jews haven't learn they need Nazi ( picture of a swastika) more than before"!

It is in Australia.

Mum and Dad would have put that in her hand knowing they could not get arrested for racial hatred.

We do not require or desire scum like that in Australia.

We need a muslim tax now.

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: $1.2 Billion Reply #41 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 2:47pm Adamant, the creature with no credibility is posting again!
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Adamant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1892 Brisbane	Re: $1.2 Billion Reply #42 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 4:37pm \|dev\|null wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 2:47pm: Adamant, the creature with no credibility is posting again! And you with your stupid faces have decided that? I think you should look inward to your core. Then again why bother you'll find nothing of import.
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Reply #43 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 5:51pm

Adamant wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 4:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

Adamant, the creature with no credibility is posting again!

And you with your stupid faces have decided that? I think you should look inward to your core. Then again why bother you'll find nothing of import.

Better than having zero credibility. Cheesy

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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Reply #44 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 7:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:23pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:05pm:

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They should devote time to ALL Terrorists who represent a credible threat, FD.

So you support them devoting a significant effort to tracking Muslims, way beyond what the size of our Muslim population alone would suggest?

Is it mere suspicion, bigotry or is there credible evidence which points to them being a credible threat, FD? Or do you just want them to purely concentrate on the Muslim community because of your own bigotry? Roll Eyes

Considering that most Terrorist attacks which have occurred on Australian soil have been by non-Muslims I'd suggest it was important that the Intelligence services did not develop myopia.

It is future terrorist attacks that they are trying to prevent, not the small number from the past (which does ironically enough, include one by Muslims, so yes, Muslims are already over-represented).

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