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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49094 At my desk.	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #105 - Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 7:50am polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 6:44pm: freediver wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 6:33pm: an attempt to draw sympathy for head hacking Muslim extremists. Or, exposing blatant lies designed to smear ordinary muslims.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #106 - Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 8:36am Do you know the difference between legitimate criticism and inventing lies FD?
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49094 At my desk.	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #107 - Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 8:40am You mean what we have been talking about for the last few pages? polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 10:25pm: freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2014 at 10:08pm: How is criticising ISIS an attempt to smear ordinary Muslims? Now FD, where did I say that? Can I ask the question now?
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Reply #108 - Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 9:05am

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 8:40am:

You mean what we have been talking about for the last few pages?

You have gone out of your way to sidestep this key question. I have no issues with criticising ISIS, I have made it clear I am only talking about the lies - so why do you continue acting obtuse about this?

The FGM story was a fake - most of MSM have retracted their original story. Mahdi spent most of his final days here posting pictures from an Iranian feature film claiming it was a real life Syrian woman being stoned for posting on facebook. He couldn't even bring himself to concede t was fake after I proved to him it was. I see parallels in your attitude to these ISIS lies. You have all but said these lies shouldn't be acknowledged because ISIS is the bottom of the barrel anyway.

Why is this important? To defend ISIS? - no. To acknowledge this is part of a vile campaign to smear all muslims

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49094 At my desk.	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #109 - Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 9:20am How is criticising ISIS an attempt to smear ordinary Muslims?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #110 - Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 10:13am polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 9:05am: I have no issues with criticising ISIS, I have made it clear I am only talking about the lies - so why do you continue acting obtuse about this? Are you going to continue playing dumb?
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Reply #111 - Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 7:29pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 10:13am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 9:05am:

I have no issues with criticising ISIS, I have made it clear I am only talking about the lies - so why do you continue acting obtuse about this?

Are you going to continue playing dumb?

It is something that FD seems to excel at, Gandalf. Roll Eyes

Oh, wait, does that mean I'll now have another attack thread opened? Grin

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Reply #112 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 4:11pm

Oh look, the original question I asked has gone unanswered, despite endless demands I justify asking it.

freediver wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 12:36pm:

AL, are you denying that they are engaging in slavery and mistreatment of women, or just complaining about photos going round on facebook that depict the wrong acts of horrific violence?

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Reply #113 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 6:27pm

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 4:11pm:

AL, are you denying that they are engaging in slavery and mistreatment of women, or just complaining about photos going round on facebook that depict the wrong acts of horrific violence?

Well you didn't ask me that, but no I am not denying they are mistreating women etc, and yes I am complaining about fake photos that are meant to defame islam (as well as pointing out the absurdity of people thinking it necessary to invent stories about ISIS, of all people). And no, as I keep saying we are not talking about a few facebook photos, but what was reported in MSM.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49094 At my desk.	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #114 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 6:31pm Good point Gandalf. This is the question I asked you: How is criticising ISIS an attempt to smear ordinary Muslims?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #115 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 6:39pm polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 6:27pm: ISIS, of all people Are you for the Islamic State or against it, Gandy?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #116 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 6:39pm freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 6:31pm: How is criticising ISIS an attempt to smear ordinary Muslims? Its not. Would it help if I wrote it in a different language?
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Reply #117 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 6:44pm

So what were you on about here?

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 6:44pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

an attempt to draw sympathy for head hacking Muslim extremists.

Or, exposing blatant lies designed to smear ordinary muslims.

I am glad it only takes a page or so to get a straight answer these days.

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Reply #118 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 6:49pm

it was in response to your ridiculing of people who dared to point out that some of the stories about ISIS are fake.

For pointing out the truth, you call it "an attempt to draw sympathy for head hacking Muslim extremists", whereas I call it "exposing blatant lies designed to smear ordinary muslims".

Has it sunk in yet that I am only talking about the propagation of lies - and that I never in any way said that legitimate criticism of ISIS is equal to smearing ordinary muslims?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49094 At my desk.	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #119 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 6:54pm My question was not about why you think it is a lie, but why you think it is "designed to smear ordinary Muslims".
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