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Reply #120 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 7:05pm

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 6:54pm:

My question was not about why you think it is a lie, but why you think it is "designed to smear ordinary Muslims".

No, your question was about "criticising ISIS" - which I don't consider the same as propagating lies.

The FGM issue has been the flavour of the month for islamophobes, which is understandable - the most effective and emotive racism throughout history has always been related to frightening people about 'what they want to do with our women'. And it is not the first time fake stories of this nature directed at islamic communities have surfaced. Just because fake stories emerge about a group that smears itself very well anyway, it doesn't mean they are not designed to smear islam and ordinary muslims.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49224 At my desk.	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #121 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 7:24pm And just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. Why you think it is "designed to smear ordinary Muslims", other than that it would not be the first time? Do you think that the community ISIS is creating is an ordinary Islamic community?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #122 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:06pm freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 7:24pm: Why you think it is "designed to smear ordinary Muslims" um.. can you think of any other reason to invent these fake stories?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49224 At my desk.	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #123 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:20pm To smear ISIS? For fun? To see how many "ordinary" Muslims will seek out any opportunity to stand up for ISIS?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #124 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:33pm yep - must be one of those As you were.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49224 At my desk.	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #125 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:35pm These are all plausible explanations Gandalf. Why do you leap to a conspiracy to smear "ordinary Muslims"?
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Reply #126 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:58pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 6:39pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 6:31pm:

How is criticising ISIS an attempt to smear ordinary Muslims?

Its not.

Would it help if I wrote it in a different language?

Yeah, mebbe you should have a translator, like the 'grand' mufti. That way you could say anything and the opposite of anything.
Being restricted to English you seem to be caught out too often.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #127 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 9:26pm freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:35pm: These are all plausible explanations Gandalf. Why do you leap to a conspiracy to smear "ordinary Muslims"? I agree FD - people like Yadda and Mahdi who propagate these fakes have absolutely no interest in smearing "ordinary muslims".
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96197 Gender:	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #128 - Aug 25^th, 2014 at 1:23am freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:20pm: For fun? It is a jolly world, no?
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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #129 - Aug 25^th, 2014 at 10:36am Karnal wrote on Aug 25^th, 2014 at 1:23am: freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:20pm: For fun? It is a jolly world, no? It is amusing, yes, to watch FD squirm when his posts have a light shined on the dark corners in which they normally fester.
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Reply #130 - Aug 25^th, 2014 at 12:41pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 9:26pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:

These are all plausible explanations Gandalf. Why do you leap to a conspiracy to smear "ordinary Muslims"?

I agree FD - people like Yadda and Mahdi who propagate these fakes have absolutely no interest in smearing "ordinary muslims". Tongue

Ah yes - Muslims, the perpetual victims.

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Reply #131 - Aug 25^th, 2014 at 2:44pm

Where are the *ordinary* muslims who are condemning those teachings of muhammad, the commands of allah in the qur'an and verses in the hadi'th (which inspire the islamic terrorists, torturers and mass murderers) as wrong, evil and absolutely not relevant to the 21st century?

Untill they (if they exist) come out of the woodwork, all muslims are in it together, some physically, some morally.

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Reply #132 - Aug 25^th, 2014 at 3:02pm

moses wrote on Aug 25^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

Where are the *ordinary* muslims who are condemning those teachings of muhammad, the commands of allah in the qur'an and verses in the hadi'th (which inspire the islamic terrorists, torturers and mass murderers) as wrong, evil and absolutely not relevant to the 21st century?

Untill they (if they exist) come out of the woodwork, all muslims are in it together, some physically, some morally.

Where are the *ordinary* Christians who are condemning those teachings of the Bible, the commands of God in the Bible and verses in the Testaments (which inspire the Christian terrorists, torturers and mass murderers) as wrong, evil and absolutely not relevant to the 21st century? Grin

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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Reply #133 - Aug 25^th, 2014 at 3:36pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 25^th, 2014 at 3:02pm:

Where are the *ordinary* Christians who are condemning those teachings of the Bible, the commands of God in the Bible and verses in the Testaments (which inspire the Christian terrorists, torturers and mass murderers) as wrong, evil and absolutely not relevant to the 21st century?

Give us an example, Wheeze.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #134 - Aug 25^th, 2014 at 3:37pm polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:06pm: freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 7:24pm: Why you think it is "designed to smear ordinary Muslims" um.. can you think of any other reason to invent these fake stories? Gandy, do you support or oppose the caliphate being established by the Islamic State?
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