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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49094 At my desk.	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #45 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:02pm Sounds a lot like Muhammed. Brian, it was not a question.
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Reply #46 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:17pm

freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Sounds a lot like Muhammed.

Brian, it was not a question.

As you appear to want to be deliberately obtuse, I have made sure it is a question by adding a question mark to the end of the sentence. Now, are you going to continue to dance around it or will you answer it, FD? Roll Eyes

Please provide a direct quote or a link to where you, "have noticed Gandalf trying valiantly to lay all the blame on western interference." for the antics of IS?

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49094 At my desk.	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #47 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:29pm This is a question?
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41954	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #48 - Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:38pm freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:29pm: This is a question? Yes. You made the claim. Please provide the evidence or do we have to put in the same classification as Adamant?
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Reply #49 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 3:24am

Adamant wrote on Aug 8^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

ISIS is taking islam back to its ROOTS. Grin

At the same killing, because its against the quran to rape a married women.

The Satanic filth peddled by the Quran and hadith put in no uncertain terms that rape of married women is not off limits:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/women_in_islam.htm

Surah 4:24 Also (prohibited are) women already married, except
those whom your right hands possess:...

Sahih Muslim: "It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a captive woman after she is purified (of menses or delivery) in case she has a husband, her marriage is abrogated after she becomes captive.

Captives are fair game whether married or not, as a wife, a concubine, or to pimp out as prostitutes:

Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution when
they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

So when they don't desire chastity, prostitute them and make a gain. Perhaps they want to share in that gain or maybe just get some distance from their filthy captor for a little while.
But then even if you compel them, Allah is forgiving!
Pretty convenient god for an army of imperialistic conquering, female prisoner violating, murderous, thieves.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jesus_or_muhammad.htm#banu_qurayza

As the Muslim in Great Britain at the beginning of this video suggests:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V22qDQqMPL0

Adamant wrote on Aug 8^th, 2014 at 3:44pm:

"ISIL has killed 500 Yazidis and abducted 500 women as slave concubines in Sinjar, Iraqi MP Fayyan Dahel told a press conference Tuesday in the parliament in Baghdad"

They are kufr after all, what should they expect from the racist most bigoted people on earth?

"Sinjar is the traditional home of the Yazidi, an eclectic religious sect fusing Zoroastrian, Manichaean, Jewish, Nestorian Christian and Islamic elements. It is regarded as heretical by orthodox Islamic scholars"

"orthodox Islamic scholars" that explains it all!

http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/169933/hundreds-of-yazidis-killed-by-isil-says...

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Reply #50 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 11:15am

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:17pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Sounds a lot like Muhammed.

Brian, it was not a question.

As you appear to want to be deliberately obtuse, I have made sure it is a question by adding a question mark to the end of the sentence. Now, are you going to continue to dance around it or will you answer it, FD? Roll Eyes

Please provide a direct quote or a link to where you, "have noticed Gandalf trying valiantly to lay all the blame on western interference." for the antics of IS?

Now now, BR, sometimes a question is just a question, remember.

If you want to ask FD a question, you need to start another thread and ask him there.

Mind you, the Moderator won't allow personal threads, so your question may well be deleted.

Just answer FD's questions in future, thanks.

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Reply #51 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 11:17am

Pete Waldo wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 3:24am:

Captives are fair game whether married or not, as a wife, a concubine, or to pimp out as prostitutes:

Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution when
they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

So when they don't desire chastity, prostitute them and make a gain. Perhaps they want to share in that gain or maybe just get some distance from their filthy captor for a little while.
But then even if you compel them, Allah is forgiving!

Is English your second language or does your bigotry prevent you reading that properly? Grin

It does not say what you claim it says. What it says is that God forgives the women forced into prostitution because it was done against their will, not that God forgives the forcers of women into prostitution!

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Reply #52 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 2:28pm

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What it says is that God forgives the women forced into prostitution because it was done against their will, not that God forgives the forcers of women into prostitution!

Prove that it says allah forgives a woman who has committed no sin.

Why does someone who has not committed a sin need pardon and mercy?

Only people who have perpetrated a sin need forgiving and mercy e.g: the muslim rapist.

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Reply #53 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 2:37pm

moses wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 2:28pm:

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What it says is that God forgives the women forced into prostitution because it was done against their will, not that God forgives the forcers of women into prostitution!

Prove that it says allah forgives a woman who has committed no sin.

If you parse the verse properly you'll find out that is what is said.

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Why does someone who has not committed a sin need pardon and mercy?

Because prostitution is a sin?

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Only people who have perpetrated a sin need forgiving and mercy e.g: the muslim rapist.

See above. You really do have to twist stuff to suit your bigoted viewpoint. Grin

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Reply #54 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 2:53pm

Your post shows you are unable to prove that it says allah forgives a woman who has committed no sin.

Your answer to: Why does someone who has not committed a sin need pardon and mercy?

Was: Because prostitution is a sin?

So what your doing is supporting the islamic value that if a female is raped, she has automatically become a prostitute?

You failed to show that the verse does not permit rape of women, or that muslims are forgiven for forced prostitution of women.

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Reply #55 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 3:00pm

moses wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 2:53pm:

Your post shows you are unable to prove that it says allah forgives a woman who has committed no sin.

Your answer to: Why does someone who has not committed a sin need pardon and mercy?

Was: Because prostitution is a sin?

So what your doing is supporting the islamic value that if a female is raped, she has automatically become a prostitute?

You failed to show that the verse does not permit rape of women, or that muslims are forgiven for forced prostitution of women.

You really, really are one sick little puppy mate. Amazing the amount of intolerance that oozes out of every byte of your messages. Grin

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #56 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 3:05pm While spineless bootlicking apologists like you support islamic values of: If a woman is raped she is a prostitute. If a woman commits no sin she needs to be forgiven by allah.
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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #57 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 3:24pm moses wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 3:05pm: While spineless bootlicking apologists like you support islamic values of: If a woman is raped she is a prostitute. If a woman commits no sin she needs to be forgiven by allah. That is not what is being said. Reread it with an open mind for a change. Intolerant bigot.
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49094 At my desk.	Re: Sex Slaves in Islam. Reply #58 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 7:39pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:38pm: freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:29pm: This is a question? Yes. You made the claim. Please provide the evidence or do we have to put in the same classification as Adamant? You can do whatever you want Brian.
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Reply #59 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 7:57pm

freediver wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 7:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:38pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 10^th, 2014 at 10:29pm:

This is a question?

Yes.

You made the claim. Please provide the evidence or do we have to put in the same classification as Adamant? Roll Eyes

You can do whatever you want Brian.

I agree, FD. Brian should be free to blame Islam too.

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