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Reply #720 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:30pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 5:30am:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 12:16am:

Agnes wrote on Jun 10^th, 2015 at 11:15pm:

why are men allowed to post here but we cannot post in the Men's Shed????

Maybe what we need to do is use their tactics against them; make a bunch of male socks and spam their board? That might get the mods attention and get us some safety.

Sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire.

Don't you mean The Tool Shed?
If you look at what's discussed, it's basically just hobbies or stuff men do in their spare time. The difference is that in this forum men are implicated in every post. It's a given that men are going to defend the claims made against them.

The difference between here and THE TOOL SHED then would probably be that we aren't talking about hobbies. We are discussing serious issues that women face. Besides, who said this was about you? Are YOU raping women? Are YOU beating your wife? Are YOU harassing women on the street? If no, then how is this about you? This thread contains the collective experience of ALL women, this is NOT about the actions of ALL MEN.

This is not about you.

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Reply #723 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:34pm

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

This thread contains the collective experience of ALL women

There's about 3 or 4 women by my count. At least 1 of whom is seriously mentally ill.

What's it to you how many of us there are? We are talking about our collective experiences. We are entitled to do that without constant interruptions from the peanut gallery.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35146 Gender:	Re: Womens Biggest Issues Are ... Reply #724 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:36pm .... at least we should be.
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Reply #725 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:37pm

mothra wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:34pm:

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

This thread contains the collective experience of ALL women

There's about 3 or 4 women by my count. At least 1 of whom is seriously mentally ill.

What's it to you how many of us there are? We are talking about our collective experiences. We are entitled to do that without constant interruptions from the peanut gallery.

Don't make phony baloney statements and you won't be called on them. Simple.

The collective experience of ALL women my arse.

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Reply #726 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:38pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 10^th, 2015 at 8:58pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 6^th, 2015 at 6:24am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

Agnes wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

If this thread is anything to go by the biggest issue women have is other women..serious!

Yes. Domestic violence and rape statistics pale in comparison to the mental torture women force on other women.

1 in three women face domestic violence.

1 in 5 women have been sexually assaulted.

Sure, women being bitchy to each other compares.

I question the methodologies used in gathering such statistics.
You give 3 links (reply 650-651). The first two offer no information on how the statistics were gathered, and the third link only surveys women.

A few years ago I taught a course that had domestic violence as part of one module. The thing I noticed about all the journal articles supplied for the students to read, was that only women were interviewed and/or surveyed. It's a given that if you only survey one gender/sex (and only small samples as well) that you're only going to get their viewpoint. Moreover, such interviews and surveys often lead the interviewee. Interviewers usually know how to draw out the answers they want for their surveys.

Of course only women were surveyed to gather information for a poll on how many women experience DV or sexual assault!

What would be the point of asking men?

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Reply #727 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:39pm

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:34pm:

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

This thread contains the collective experience of ALL women

There's about 3 or 4 women by my count. At least 1 of whom is seriously mentally ill.

What's it to you how many of us there are? We are talking about our collective experiences. We are entitled to do that without constant interruptions from the peanut gallery.

Don't make phony baloney statements and you won't be called on them. Simple.

The collective experience of ALL women my arse.

Why call me on something i didn't say Honky?

Seems to me you haave a problem with ALL women.

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Reply #728 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:40pm

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

This thread contains the collective experience of ALL women

There's about 3 or 4 women by my count. At least 1 of whom is seriously mentally ill.

I'm not going to go back over all the pages and tally up who's gender belongs where, but Ima bet that there have been more than a few women on here try and discuss what they believe women's issues to be, before they were derailed by men crying about their precious man feelings. Like I said, no one here is claiming that all men do x, y, or z. But there are ENOUGH men who do these things for it to be a real problem, and when other men come in here and remove our right to talk in peace and safety about issues that we are in fact dealing with you then become part of the problem. Why is is so wrong for us to have our own corner of the internet where we can safely discuss women's issues without it being taken over by trolls? What are you people afraid of? You afraid there'll be an internet revolution on the Ozpolitics forum and you'll have to look at pictures of tampons all the time?

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Reply #729 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:41pm

mothra wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:39pm:

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:34pm:

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

This thread contains the collective experience of ALL women

There's about 3 or 4 women by my count. At least 1 of whom is seriously mentally ill.

What's it to you how many of us there are? We are talking about our collective experiences. We are entitled to do that without constant interruptions from the peanut gallery.

Don't make phony baloney statements and you won't be called on them. Simple.

The collective experience of ALL women my arse.

Why call me on something i didn't say Honky?

Seems to me you haave a problem with ALL women.

You may note that YOU replied to ME.

Or, you may not. You're not the most perceptive soul.

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Reply #731 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:42pm

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:39pm:

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:34pm:

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

This thread contains the collective experience of ALL women

There's about 3 or 4 women by my count. At least 1 of whom is seriously mentally ill.

What's it to you how many of us there are? We are talking about our collective experiences. We are entitled to do that without constant interruptions from the peanut gallery.

Don't make phony baloney statements and you won't be called on them. Simple.

The collective experience of ALL women my arse.

Why call me on something i didn't say Honky?

Seems to me you haave a problem with ALL women.

You may note that YOU replied to ME.

Or, you may not. You're not the most perceptive soul.

Oh. Precious ego.

I responded to your words, Honky. Quite in context.

Then you tried to attribute to me something i didn't say.

Problem?

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Reply #733 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:47pm

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:40pm:

I'm not going to go back over all the pages and tally up who's gender belongs where, but Ima bet that there have been more than a few women on here try and discuss what they believe women's issues to be, before they were derailed by men crying about their precious man feelings.

Well you'd bet wrong.

Lisa Jones
Emma Peel
Mothra
AG
And now you.

That's it. That's the collective brains trust of ALL women. Apparently.

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Reply #734 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:55pm

... wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:47pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:40pm:

I'm not going to go back over all the pages and tally up who's gender belongs where, but Ima bet that there have been more than a few women on here try and discuss what they believe women's issues to be, before they were derailed by men crying about their precious man feelings.

Well you'd bet wrong.

Lisa Jones
Emma Peel
Mothra
AG
And now you.

That's it. That's the collective brains trust of ALL women. Apparently.

That seems like a good chunk of the women on this forum doesn't it? and on matters of rape, domestic violence, street harassment, etc. they do stand as spokespeople for the rest of us because chances are their experiences are the same as ours. Point to me one woman who will say they've never had some creepy man hit on them on the bus and refuse to take no for an answer, and I'll point to you a liar.

All female voices should be heard, regardless of what they say --- unfortunately it seems like some men on here only pay attention to the ones that shut the others down. Why won't you people listen when we talk? Do you think us inferior? Or are you afraid of the truth?

Maybe more women would post here if they weren't afraid of being abused by people like you.

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