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Reply #705 - Jun 10^th, 2015 at 8:58pm

mothra wrote on Jun 6^th, 2015 at 6:24am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

Agnes wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

If this thread is anything to go by the biggest issue women have is other women..serious!

Yes. Domestic violence and rape statistics pale in comparison to the mental torture women force on other women.

1 in three women face domestic violence.

1 in 5 women have been sexually assaulted.

Sure, women being bitchy to each other compares.

I question the methodologies used in gathering such statistics.
You give 3 links (reply 650-651). The first two offer no information on how the statistics were gathered, and the third link only surveys women.

A few years ago I taught a course that had domestic violence as part of one module. The thing I noticed about all the journal articles supplied for the students to read, was that only women were interviewed and/or surveyed. It's a given that if you only survey one gender/sex (and only small samples as well) that you're only going to get their viewpoint. Moreover, such interviews and surveys often lead the interviewee. Interviewers usually know how to draw out the answers they want for their surveys.

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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: Womens Biggest Issues Are ... Reply #706 - Jun 10^th, 2015 at 11:15pm why are men allowed to post here but we cannot post in the Men's Shed????
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Womens Biggest Issues Are ... Reply #707 - Jun 10^th, 2015 at 11:18pm I blame the patriarchy.
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Womens Biggest Issues Are ... Reply #708 - Jun 10^th, 2015 at 11:25pm I've had enough of this BS. I'm deleting ny notification because all you want to do is talk crepustulent vomit. G'day fookheeads
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Reply #709 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 12:16am

Agnes wrote on Jun 10^th, 2015 at 11:15pm:

why are men allowed to post here but we cannot post in the Men's Shed????

Maybe what we need to do is use their tactics against them; make a bunch of male socks and spam their board? That might get the mods attention and get us some safety.

Sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire.

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Reply #710 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 12:21am

Agnes wrote on Jun 9^th, 2015 at 2:29pm:

... wrote on Jun 9^th, 2015 at 9:11am:

also not sure why they wouldn't have access to showers in the metro area. Running water is fairly common these days.

Honky you do not have a freaking clue- and Rhino is just enjoying trolling the womens forum- Roll Eyes

Get out more boys, volunteer at a local womens shelter- so they are constantly reminded about why there are and should never go back to the monster under their bed's. Wink

Hell they don't even need to volunteer --- they could start by actually listening to what women are saying instead of being dismissive. If I were them I would have come to the conclusion that MAYBE women actually know what we're talking about when it comes to our experiences, and that MAYBE we should be listened to so that we can all make positive changes in society.

Just a thought.

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Reply #711 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 1:48am

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 12:16am:

Agnes wrote on Jun 10^th, 2015 at 11:15pm:

why are men allowed to post here but we cannot post in the Men's Shed????

Maybe what we need to do is use their tactics against them; make a bunch of male socks and spam their board? That might get the mods attention and get us some safety.

Sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire.

Sounds like a plan there Nifti and don't think it didnt cross my mind.. Wink

I'm going in ~

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Reply #713 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 2:31am

Just visited the tool shed- I am now a bloke as you can see to the left. I think they need a bit of a shake up over there-lets leave them to this place and give them something to talk about- like Nifti said lets repay the favour? There was crap all over the place , needs a womans touch- they are right underneath us- I am standing on their roof. Wink

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Reply #714 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 5:12am

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 6^th, 2015 at 3:56am:

She's a very interesting person.

I've been studying feminist political theory lately, and recently discovered anarcha-feminism. Women like Emma Goldman and Voltairine De Cleyre are so fascinating, and not talked about save for specialised women's studies topics. I also find it interesting that men like Foucault are discussed at large for their contributions to feminism, but the women are largely forgotten.

I have a sneaky suspicion I know what might be behind this.

(Hint!! It begins with "P" and ends with "atriarchy"!)

Foucault is discussed at length because he's a post-structuralist, just as the feminists of the second and third wave are.

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Reply #715 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 5:30am

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 12:16am:

Agnes wrote on Jun 10^th, 2015 at 11:15pm:

why are men allowed to post here but we cannot post in the Men's Shed????

Maybe what we need to do is use their tactics against them; make a bunch of male socks and spam their board? That might get the mods attention and get us some safety.

Sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire.

Don't you mean The Tool Shed?
If you look at what's discussed, it's basically just hobbies or stuff men do in their spare time. The difference is that in this forum men are implicated in every post. It's a given that men are going to defend the claims made against them.

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21417 ACT Gender:	Re: Womens Biggest Issues Are ... Reply #716 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 8:42am I am planning to contact Freediver about this planned insurrection and demand immediate action. Any change of sex people entering the Tool Shed will be frisked to prove their bona fides. Yours Sincerely Mr Redmond Neck Moderator The Tool Shed (I am currently undertaking a moderator refresher course with Aussie)
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Reply #717 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 11:16am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 8:42am:

I am planning to contact Freediver about this planned insurrection and demand immediate action.

Any change of sex people entering the Tool Shed will be frisked to prove their bona fides.

Yours Sincerely
Mr Redmond Neck
Moderator The Tool Shed

(I am currently undertaking a moderator refresher course with Aussie)

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35146 Gender:	Re: Womens Biggest Issues Are ... Reply #718 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:08pm Agnes wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 1:50am: ( dry) You're a brave woman AG. God speed.
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Reply #719 - Jun 11^th, 2015 at 3:23pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 11^th, 2015 at 5:12am:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Jun 6^th, 2015 at 3:56am:

She's a very interesting person.

I've been studying feminist political theory lately, and recently discovered anarcha-feminism. Women like Emma Goldman and Voltairine De Cleyre are so fascinating, and not talked about save for specialised women's studies topics. I also find it interesting that men like Foucault are discussed at large for their contributions to feminism, but the women are largely forgotten.

I have a sneaky suspicion I know what might be behind this.

(Hint!! It begins with "P" and ends with "atriarchy"!)

Foucault is discussed at length because he's a post-structuralist, just as the feminists of the second and third wave are.

What's your point exactly? I said that Foucault is discussed more often than feminists in the same discipline. What does him being post-structuralist have to do with anything? And, more to the point, why is he discussed when other post-structuralist women and feminists are not? Why does he get to have his name everywhere, when second and third wave feminists (gosh I hate the whole "wave" thing, feminism isn't like the ocean -- -waves recede and return, feminism has never done that; once it came, it stayed) are lumped into the same basket? Why is Philipa Rothfield's name not common knowledge in universities? Jana Sawecki? Betty Friedan? Why is it that the only time women are ever mentioned in sociology is the token woman centred lecture? I have read and heard more on Engels, Durkheim, Marx, etc. enough to last a life time -- where are the women in academia? Why are they swept under the rug when their contributions are just as important, if not more so because they have further and deeper knowledge on matters these old dead white men could never understand?

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