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Re: ex Labor MP a soviet mole
Reply #60 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:31pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

Datalife wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 12:38pm:

My goodness, what a Luvvie prog position! Making apologies for Soviet aggression! How unlike you DL!

Not unlike me at all. I possess perspective and understand nuance, difference and motivations.

In my world not everything is eeeeeeeqqqqquuuuaaaaal.

Nor in anyone else's DL. You create a strawman argument to knock down. Grin

Really? Care to demonstrate where I have done that?

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Reply #61 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:31pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 12:43pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 12:29pm:

Russia has been expansionist for centuries. post WW2 control of eastern Europe proved the point. NATO wasn't invading them, the reverse was true. they are architects of their own troubles.

You don't think the Soviet control of Eastern Europe was justified by three major invasions of Russia over the previous 150 years? The US containment policy? The US encirclement of the USSR with American allies and right-wing funded dictatorships? The US rhetoric which was pretty damn fierce during most of the Cold War? Grin

since when was invasion and subjugation of entire countries JUSTIFIED? who are you? Rhiannons love child??

Well, in that case you obviously can't have supported the war in Afghanistan or Iraq, now can you? Nor the current attack by Israel on Gaza.

In reality, when you're acting out of paranoid fears, nearly anything can be justified and some people will believe you.

I asked a question, putting the Soviet leadership's viewpoint. If such actions cannot be justified then there goes imperialism, international "interventions" and basically every war that's ever been fought. Grin

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Re: ex Labor MP a soviet mole
Reply #62 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:33pm

Datalife wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

Datalife wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 12:38pm:

My goodness, what a Luvvie prog position! Making apologies for Soviet aggression! How unlike you DL!

Not unlike me at all. I possess perspective and understand nuance, difference and motivations.

In my world not everything is eeeeeeeqqqqquuuuaaaaal.

Nor in anyone else's DL. You create a strawman argument to knock down. Grin

Really? Care to demonstrate where I have done that?

You implied it with your deprecating statement "In my world not everything is eeeeeeeqqqqquuuuaaaaal." Grin

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Re: ex Labor MP a soviet mole
Reply #63 - Aug 11^th, 2014 at 2:05pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 11:37am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 10:26am:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 10:23am:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2014 at 8:59am:

A former federal Labor MP has been uncovered as a secret KGB informant, according to newly-released Russian intelligence archives.

Albert James, the member for Hunter in NSW, was an active informer in the 1960s and 1970s under the not-very-secure codename "Albert" — although it has not been revealed what information Mr James may have passed to the Soviet Union, Fairfax Media reports.

His status as a KGB mole is documented in the papers of Vasili Mitrokhin, a former KGB archivist and defector.

The Churchill College Archive in the United Kingdom released the papers last month.

Mr James, who served in Federal Parliament from 1960 to 1980, was known to be a strong critic of the Vietnam War and what he called "USA imperialism". He was also a supporter of Fidel Castro’s communist regime.

He died in 2006, aged 92.

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/08/11/05/15/mp-exposed-as-secret-kgb-informant#Ky22jhIbmVoKEwQa.99

Good job Longy and keep up the good work flushing out all those commies. (pssst I know why you hate them so. Cause Marx was right. Religion is the opium of the people and has caused more deaths and misery then any other ideology and institution known to man and your fanatical lunacy is threatening to plunge the world in yet another holy war. Time we kicked the habit and flushed this opium down the toilet where it belongs.

so you are okay with having spies for foreign countries in our parliament? especially spies from countries that at the time were invading other countries?

they guys been dead for over 10 yrs .... Cheesy

no need to worry Longie, the only spies left in parliamnet are those put ther by Murdoch and Gina

the evidence (yeah that inconvenient stuff) would suggest the opposite. this isn't labors first soviet spy. how many Russian spies still exists in the ALP? we already know the Greens have an actual communist in their midst.

come on longie, since when have you ever concerned yourself with irrelevant stuff like evidence? lets not pretend to start now.

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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